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Jonah Lomu signs for Welsh club

Jackal Dog

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Recovering All Blacks wing Jonah Lomu has confirmed he will play his rugby in Britain for the Cardiff Blues.

Lomu confirmed earlier reports that he had signed with the club on Radio Sport in New Zealand, but he added that it was not for a three-month period as had been claimed.

He said he can play for seven months because he is not eligible for next year's Super 14 as a result of not playing in this year's NPC due to the shoulder injury he sustained in his return appearance, the Martin Johnson Testimonial match in June.

Lomu was regarded as the world's most recognised rugby player after he burst onto the scene with an outstanding 1995 World Cup, and especially his four-try haul in the semi-final against England.



He has been out of rugby, apart from an appearance in the Testimonial match, since undergoing a kidney transplant last year.

Lomu has set himself a goal of making the All Blacks for the 2007 World Cup in France.


At least two English clubs had also been in discussions with Lomu's management.

Link: http://www.sportal.com.au/union.asp?i=news&id=72027

Good on the guy I say, he is trying his best to make it back into top flight rubgy, personally I don't think he will play for the All Black's again not with Sivivatu, Rockocko, Gear and Howlett all in front of him but big Jonah is good for the game anyway imho.
 

ozbash

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is jonah getting the cold shoulder from the nzrfu over his endorsement of japan hosting the same world cup nz are chasing ?

shame really, the big fella deserves better .
 

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He says he still wants to play for the ABs. I think as the article says he can't play in the Super 14 cause he didn't play in the NPC.
 

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http://xtramsn.co.nz/rugby/0,,12448-4831389,00.html

Oh no! Not another World Cup disaster as the hosting rights decision for the 2011 tournament looms. Jonah Lomu inadvertently finds himself in the middle of a battle between contenders New Zealand and Japan after he reportedly supported the Asian bid. He says he's been misquoted but was he being disloyal even talking up New Zealand's opponents? XtraMSN Rugby writers Duncan Johnstone and Marc Hinton debate the question.

And to help you choose, here are the words from the South China Morning Post.

"If the World Cup came to Japan, it is going to grow the global game. Everyone always talks about the best things in terms of growing the game and in this regard I think it is time for the World Cup to come to Japan and Asia," Lomu reportedly told the newspaper.

"If Japan wins it, rugby will just get bigger. The game is going to be more accessible to everyone and more open to Asia. A World Cup in Japan will show that rugby is truly a global game."

So, is Jonah being disloyal?


YES - Duncan Johnstone

Misquoted or misconstrued, it doesn't look good for Jonah in the bigger picture.

He's been quick to counter the Asian offensive that has used his huge profile to bolster their chances of hosting the 2011 World Cup in Japan. And well he might.

Jonah has long trumpeted his huge loyalty to New Zealand rugby and, particularly the All Blacks. It's been the basis of him staying here when he could have earned far more offshore and it's been the major force behind his remarkable drive to return from his severe medical condition.

So it's strange to hear Lomu talking up Japan's chances at the expense of New Zealand.

At a time when the New Zealand bosses are heading overseas on a mission to convince the voters that the cup should return to these shores for the first time since 1987, this was the last sort of thing they wanted to hear coming from one of their own, particularly someone of Lomu's stature. He is, after all, Mr World Cup following his exploits in 1995 and 1999.

Forget the ifs and buts, the claim and counter claim by the Hong Kong newspaper and Lomu. True or not, the damage has been done.

Now it's a test of character for the NZRU to see who is bigger and who has more influence - them or Jonah Lomu.

Lomu is widely regarded as the highest profiled rugby player in the world. And that still stands despite his two year absence from first class rugby. Asia will have delighted in reading his "thoughts".

Jock Hobbs and Chris Moller have plenty of time to make their points in crucial areas of the rugby world over the next month and hopefully these are the views that will count most, rather than the questioned words in print in Hong Kong.

I've no doubt that the idea of rugby spreading into a new and lucrative market like Asia is probably favoured by many rugby folk around the globe and even some in the land of the long white cloud.

But it shouldn't be uttered - in jest or good faith - by anyone with New Zealand allegiances at this delicate time.

We stuffed up the last World Cup. Let's hope we don't do it again.


NO - Marc Hinton

Hang on a minute here. Has the world gone crazy? Man not allowed an opinion? This isn't China, last I looked.

If Jonah is guilty of anything here, it's being naive, and possibly looking to kiss up to his audience. Hardly hanging offences.

Here was the great man being interviewed in Hong Kong on Japan's prospects of hosting the 2011 World Cup. What's he gonna say? You've got no chance - forget about it and get back to your sushi. Please.

All the big fella did was tell them what they wanted to hear, namely that it would be a great thing if the World Cup was awarded to Japan and that it certainly would be a major boost for taking rugby to a more international audience.

Cast aside your blinkers people, and you'll realise he's right. Sure, we'd love it in New Zealand. Heck, we probably deserve it, apart from the minor fact of our tiny stadiums, lack of appropriate accommodation and unfortunate time zone. This is, after all, one of only two significant countries in the world where rugby could be said to be the national game.

But Asia has never held the Rugby World Cup, it's got incredible facilities and runs on the board via a little event that soccer has every four years. Plus, as Jonah points out, Asia is a not insignificant part of the world where the oval ball code could really make some inroads. Also, there's a dollar or two floating round.

Anyway, back to Jonah's comments. Nowhere has he said New Zealand doesn't have a decent bid, nor that he doesn't think his own country deserves to host the global event.

In fact, he prefaced both his key comments with Rudyard Kipling's "if" which, as we know, is a small word with a big meaning.

He said "if" the Cup goes to Japan it will grow the global game and he then referred to people talking about the need to do just that. If that's what they're after, noted Jonah, it's time to give it to Japan. Hard to argue with that.

He then goes on to say that a World Cup in Japan would make rugby "bigger" in Asia. Hardly rocket science. And hardly inflammatory.

And lastly, what loyalty does Jonah owe to the NZRU, other than that which any New Zealander might? They've hardly been in a rush to get in behind him through his troubles, despite his continued status as an icon of the game.

Heck, they should have made him an ambassador for the bid in the first place (now there's a thought!). Then this whole issue wouldn't have even arisen.

Jonah has since clarified his support for New Zealand and mumbled something about being misquoted. For that you can usually read that someone regrets something they said in the cold light of day. He needn't.
 

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FFS he is just speaking his mind everyone in the global rugby community knows that it would be great for the game if Japan hosted the next RWC, everyone that is except the kiwi's and saffa's.

Japan is the ideal place to host it the Stadiums are some of the most advanced in the world at the moment and leave SA and especially NZ for dead and I would prefer to hold it in a place where it ain't cold and miserable (NZ) or you can get carjacked in broad daylight. (SA)
 

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cold and miserable ? thats melbourne isnt it.

jonah is an ambassadoor for the nzrfu so there fore he should mind his p,s and q,s .
i think he was in japan on a sponsorship/advertising deal and put the mouth into gear before engaging the brain.

the nzrfu will get over it ( or have a convienient excuse if they miss out,,, again)
 

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i wish jonah would retire. he's not going to make the world cup in 2007. he has nothing left to prove, he's perhaps the best winger new zealand has ever produced, and i think it's time for him to hang up his boots
 

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Phoney MX said:
FFS he is just speaking his mind everyone in the global rugby community knows that it would be great for the game if Japan hosted the next RWC, everyone that is except the kiwi's and saffa's.

Japan is the ideal place to host it the Stadiums are some of the most advanced in the world at the moment and leave SA and especially NZ for dead and I would prefer to hold it in a place where it ain't cold and miserable (NZ) or you can get carjacked in broad daylight. (SA)

Cold and miserable:roll: Fact- NZ has a temperate, stable climate which is rarely anything other than "pleasant" by international standards.

How the hell is it great for the game to more or less rule out the current and all time number 1 rugby nation from ever having a say in the game?
 

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It evens out the playing field, Japan is crap team and every one knows it they probably won't even make it past the pool stage so no team gets a home ground advantage. I have said this many times before SA and NZ are nearly unbeatable at home they are also currently ranked 1 & 2 in the world, there is no need to give them an even bigger advantage.

Then there is the stadiums, thanks to the 2002 Soccer World Cup Japan has some of the best stadiums in the world, SA will catch up to some extent when they host the 2010 Soccer World Cup with a few upgrades and a brank spanking new 100,000 showpiece but they will still be miles behind the Japs, then there is NZ, no offence but they have some horribly outdated plain awful ones like the House of Pain and the Cake Tin and from what I have read they will only be getting small upgrades cause the government is too cheap.

Japan also is a top tourist destination and has a thriving economy meaning it would be a financial success as well.
 

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agree on the stadiums, but do we build 3 or 4 60-80 k seaters in the chance we score the union world cup ?

its the only time they,d be filled.

the nzrfu still has egg on its face from the last wc bid and are going hard out to make sure they dont strangle the goose who lays the golden egg,, again.

as a kiwi fan, its actually cheaper for me to go to bris-syd-melb than to fly to chch or dunedin from hamilton or auckland. driving is worse unless you own a biggish boat.
 

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ozbash said:
agree on the stadiums, but do we build 3 or 4 60-80 k seaters in the chance we score the union world cup ?

its the only time they,d be filled.
50k-60k is a reasonable number I am sure you guys could fill it for tests NZ are nutters about Rugby much more then we are and we still can fill out Telstra Stadium, Suncorp or the Telstra Dome.

On the stadiums:

Japan
Yokohama Int'l Stadium (Tokohama Tokyo) 70 564
Saitama Stadium 2002 (Saitama) 63 700
Shizuoka Stadium Ecopa (Shizuoka) 51,349
Nagai Stadium (Osaka) 50,000
Miyagi Stadium (Sendai) 49,133
Oita 'Big Eye' Stadium (Oita) 43,000
Niigata Stadium (Niigata) 42,700
Sapporo Dome Stadium (Sapporo) 42,122
Kobe Wing Stadium (Kobe) 42,000
Kashima Soccer Stadium (Ibaraki) 41,800

New Zealand
Eden Park (Auckland) 58,000
Carisbrook (Dunedin) 38,000
Jade Stadium (Christchurch) 36,500
Rotorua Intl' Stadium (Rototua) 35,000 (only 12,500 is seated)
Westpac Stadium (Wellington) 34,500
Ericsson Stadium (Auckland) 30,000 (only 18,000 is seated)
Waikato Stadium (Hamilton) 27,500 (only 20 000 is seated)
North Harbour Stadium (Albany) 25,000
ITM Stadium (Whangarei) 25,000
Yarrow Stadium (New Plymouth) 25,000
BlueChip N.Z. Stadium (Tauranga) 19,800
Homestead Stadium (Invercargill) 17,000
McLean Park (Napier) 16,500
Arena (Palmerston North) 15,000

All of Japan's stadiums are over 40,000 seaters which is impressive.

ozbash said:
the nzrfu still has egg on its face from the last wc bid and are going hard out to make sure they dont strangle the goose who lays the golden egg,, again.

Agreed, it would of been far better if our kiwi cousins had co-hosted the tournament with us in 03 but for reasons unknown it fell through

ozbash said:
as a kiwi fan, its actually cheaper for me to go to bris-syd-melb than to fly to chch or dunedin from hamilton or auckland. driving is worse unless you own a biggish boat.

And that is without the huge inflation costs that will be on tickets just so the NZRU/Government can make a profit.
 

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Phoney MX said:
50k-60k is a reasonable number I am sure you guys could fill it for tests NZ are nutters about Rugby much more then we are and we still can fill out Telstra Stadium, Suncorp or the Telstra Dome.

Eden Park will be permanently upgraded to a 69k capacity for the world cup. The Semi’s and Final will be played there.



Phoney MX said:
All of Japan's stadiums are over 40,000 seaters which is impressive.



But can they fill them? The Aussies had to double up on the games to get some to attend. ANY pool game in NZ will be filled up even if it is only in a 30K stadium.



Phoney MX said:
Originally Posted by ozbash

the nzrfu still has egg on its face from the last wc bid and are going hard out to make sure they dont strangle the goose who lays the golden egg,, again.


Agreed, it would of been far better if our kiwi cousins had co-hosted the tournament with us in 03 but for reasons unknown it fell through


UNKOWN REASONS??????? The reasons were blatantly obvious… The Head of the IRB gave assurances to the NZ Govt and the NZRFU that the Clean stadium policy would not be an issue were it was impractical to fix…that is it had to be 500 metres away from the stadium. In some instances it could not be done. Then that bastard O’Neil stabbed us in the back, promised the IRB another 30 Million in cash and it suddenly became an issue. The fact that Pugh lied to an MPs face was immaterial. The NZRFU was naïve to believe in this day and age that a gentleman’s agreement meant anything.



Phoney MX said:
Originally Posted by ozbash

as a kiwi fan, its actually cheaper for me to go to bris-syd-melb than to fly to chch or dunedin from hamilton or auckland. driving is worse unless you own a biggish boat
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And that is without the huge inflation costs that will be on tickets just so the NZRU/Government can make a profit.


Making a profit is not a necessity… The NZRFU already has almost twice as much in reserves as the ARU’s “war chest”. The size of stadia is irrelevant… the ticketing money goes fully to the host nation. The NZRFU has promised a healty payout to the IRB from those reserves so there is no worry about it not being a financial success.



All this is irrelevant anyway… As I have previously stated the deals have been done… Jock is now winging his way around the world to make sure nobody backs out now… mark my words the 2011 World cup WILL be held in New Zealand.

 

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mark my words the 2011 World cup WILL be held in New Zealand
hope your right TK, i,ll start saving for my seat now.
 

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To be honest I would rather see the games go to Japan. Better for the game and I am tired of seeing the big 3 host the same event its time the IRB took some chances and spread the money around a bit.
 

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As a Rugby Fan I hope its Japan

As a Kiwi I hope we get it... and that the NZRFU get on the piss when they organise the draw and give one of the All Black Pool Games to Napier.

Maybe Yankeeville/Canada for 2015...
 

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Phoney MX said:
then there is NZ, no offence but they have some horribly outdated plain awful ones like the House of Pain and the Cake Tin

What's wrong with the cake tin? Sure it could be a little bigger at 35K seats but it's a very nice stadium, if you compare it to good stadia here like Suncorp or Aussie it still holds it's own, except for the fact that being multi-purpose the crowd isn't quite as close to the action. The House of Pain could do with a bit of tarting up admittedly but is nowhere near as bad as people often make out.
Whats the obserssion everyone has with stadiums being all seaters anyway? Watching a test match from the terraces at Carisbrook is one of the greatest experiences you can have as a Rugby fan.
 

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