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Pete Cash

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Exactly.

Jarryd Hayne might be talented but he is a complete princess. Say what you like about Dugan he might be an injury prone bogan but he rolls his sleeves up and works his arse off for the shitty Raiders. Hayne just gets a huff on and tries to sink the coach. What a peahearted chump and all the Parra supporters come in defending him like weeping North Koreans defending their leadership.

Perhaps attitudes like Haynes are part of the problem that is Parramatta.
 

Loudstrat

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You still think it's all Hayne's fault? :lol::lol:

Dont let the fact that he's been carrying the side for three seasons interfere with your small IQ.
 
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Just because Storm were successful, does not mean their system will work at other clubs. Bellamy evolves the team every year, its not static.

Kearney may have the mistaken belief that what ever structure the storm had would be successful at the eels. What he should have done was focus on defence and consulted the established players about what works for them in offence to get the best out of them.
 

Pete Cash

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See look at loudstat leaping to the defence of a player who instead of doing the hard yards will just sulk it up like a huge baby on the field.

He is like a weird cultist.
 

Loudstrat

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See look at Pete Cash thinking Jarryd Hayne is the only player out of form at Parramatta and the sole reason for them losing.

He is like an obsessed nutter.
 

Pete Cash

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lol thats exactly what i said you f**king weirdo.

I am saying he is a poor on field leader (which is cool some players aren't) and he has a terrible attitude which is less cool. The fact that these attitudes are allowed to fester at Parra says it all. Peahearted club bereft of leadership.

On his day he is a great player but terrible attitude. He is well down the list of NSW fullbacks and rightly so.
 

Bretto

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Fair enough their attack isn't working, they aren't scoring points or whatever, but the defensive structure and lapses are beyond poor. That is how a team is coached. You go and watch a Melbourne or Brisbane game and see how their defensive structure works. All the players work for each other.

I wouldn't have dropped Sandow. I tease him on here cause he's fat, because, well, he's fat. But, he's a talented kid who needs to be given time. You've paid a shed load of coin for him, and you've got no one better anyway, so let him play himself into some form.

Having said all that, something is very wrong at Parramatta on a fundamental level. I remember probably 2 years ago, Gus Gould talking about how Paramatta have a "pub team mentality." Kearny wasn't their coach at that time, and they were still hemorraging points and playing poorly then.
 

BunniesMan

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Worst start to the season for Parra in 52 years (1960). That was the 5th of their 6 straight spoons.
 
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My biggest issue is the board fully supports him and this is part of the 5 year plan. They seem happy to accept medocrity.

Kearney's abilities have been grossly overrated - the players don't believe in him anyway. Get a new coach by the end of the year and start again or this rubbish will continue. Sandow's poor form might also be due to Kearney - he wasn't 'coached' at Souffs, he seems to be told what to do at the Eels and it isn't working.
 

Bretto

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My biggest issue is the board fully supports him and this is part of the 5 year plan. They seem happy to accept medocrity.

Kearney's abilities have been grossly overrated - the players don't believe in him anyway. Get a new coach by the end of the year and start again or this rubbish will continue. Sandow's poor form might also be due to Kearney - he wasn't 'coached' at Souffs, he seems to be told what to do at the Eels and it isn't working.

How many coaches have Parramatta had in the last 6 years?

It's not the coach.
 

Grapple

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It feels from the outside looking in that coaches walk into the disaster zone in that club and are expected to be the miracle cure. Although, he is certainly to blame for some loss of morale and definitely for the lack of defensive structure, you also need to look at other parts of the club and whether that strive for excellence is evident.


The attack of the club speaks volumes.. It looks like when Parra do win, they have a spirit in the team where they all bond together and everyone puts in the hard work. Then when they get a couple of wins on the trot it lifts morale and starts that cycle again. Likewise when they lose, you can see the structure of attack too much on one or two playmakers - hence the dropping when one player doesn't perform (Sandow) or if one gets injured (Hayne).

So the problems as I see it:

1. Coach.

Either he's oblivious to what's wrong, or his message isn't getting through to the players. You could argue he's had enough time now to change the team around, but then so have other coaches that have come in. But it's clear that the players don't respect him and hence they don't trust his coaching so that's the obvious problem that needs fixing.
But as a club, you can't just run out and get a new coach every 5 minutes. This happens more often than not in the NBA - teams will win straight after a new coach is appointed, and it will last for about two weeks (about 5-10 games). Surely that indicates the problem with the players or organization? Though it remains to be seen what Kearney can do with the Kiwis, and a LOT of his decisions have been questionable with Parra.

2. The Players.

It's obvious the players have a lack of professional attitude. Some of that is on the coach, but really, a large number of the team need to pull their finger out and be held accountable. The problem with Kearney dropping Sandow just simply showed that they have nobody to replace him. No depth in the ranks means players can get by being average, and still get paid. That change comes with older players providing leadership, but if you're one of the older players on the team that is used to losing, there's only so much you can say before the guys would tune out (Hindy?).

They also need a decent forward pack to lay the platform and a decent Hooker, who they've not had for a long time. I'm not aware of how their feeder clubs are going, but they really need a big injection in the forwards. Part of why Sandow was effective (at times) for Souths, was on go forward from their pack when they'd get a roll on. Being a small creative ball player around tired forwards is where he and Hayne could run riot.


3. The Club.

Needs a big clean out. Paid way too much for Sandow, and had poore recruitment over the years. Simply can't go on. Obviously need to bring in a better defensive coach and maybe a few ex club players who can play roles around the club - who still have some pride for The Eels organization - that can bring a fresh perspective to the club, and help with building the youth they have.


My two cents... (Go The Dogs!)
 

aqua_duck

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How many coaches have Parramatta had in the last 6 years?

It's not the coach.

Parra were never this poor under Smith, JT, Hagan and Anderson. Their defensive reads and structure is abysmal, their discipline is terrible and the recruits have mostly been duds, honestly Roberts, TongaX2, and Sandow have all been terrible for the most part.
Everyone is heaping shit on Hayne but honestly he's the only one that even looks like doing anything, and just because his style is relaxed people think he's a bludger.
People are prepared to give most playmakers a break if they play behind a beaten forward pack but Hayne gets slaughtered and labelled as disinterested and out of form even though he's put in 2 of the best individual performances this year against Cronulla and Manly only a few weeks ago
 
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This will get smashed as bias but I'll say it anyway. Before Maguire was even hired by us and it was little more than rumours, there were articles from "sources" inside the Storm saying Maguire was the real brains among the assistant coaches. That Kearney got the praise and the jobs because of his higher profile. But it was Maguire working with Bellamy and Matty Johns that developed Cronk into an elite player among many other things. Johns has gone as far as going on record to call Maguire a "genius". Don't recall him saying anything like that about Kearney.

Those sources said Kearney wasn't as involved as Maguire in the "head coach" sort of responsibilities. That he was more of a man manager while Maguire was the brains.

Kearney now has 7 wins in 33 games, and won with NZ with Bennett holding his hand.

I think there was some truth to those articles.

His incompetence is highlighted with Sandow. Sandow is a talented player who has plenty of negatives in his game. Sandow can only be a success in a certain style of game plan. Out of all of last years starting 1st grade halfbacks, Sandow would be f**king last on the list of halves most suited to the style Kearney insists on playing.

And then tonight specifically, you do not pick a halfback on the f**king bench. Your starting spine players have to be your best available. If Kearney thought his #6 and #7 were his best, Sandow shouldn't have been in the 17. If he thought his #6 or #7 couldn't be trusted to play 80 minutes, Sandow should have started. Picking a halfback on the bench means you are preparing for failure.

Either the Eels were going to play well with their starting halves and they wouldn't be subbed and Sandow would sit on his arse all night. Or, as it turned out, they'd end up going shit and Sandow would get a run when it was too late.

Stupid, stupid, decisions.

Well said...Kearney was an average assistant coach at Storm and to put Sandow on the bench was an idiotic decision.
 
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My biggest issue is the board fully supports him and this is part of the 5 year plan. They seem happy to accept medocrity.

Kearney's abilities have been grossly overrated - the players don't believe in him anyway. Get a new coach by the end of the year and start again or this rubbish will continue. Sandow's poor form might also be due to Kearney - he wasn't 'coached' at Souffs, he seems to be told what to do at the Eels and it isn't working.

I would get a new coach now...so the Eels are not going to make the 8 but at least a new coach might be able to string a few wins together and get the side gelling for next year as opposed to getting a new coach at the end of the season and the same thing may happen again next year.
 

aqua_duck

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Btw how funny does it look now that scrotum head Slothfield labelled Kearney the 2nd best coach in the comp before he'd coached a single game
 

Ladmate

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I've been saying for years that he is useless. His game plans are abysmal. He doesn't plan to attack weaknesses in defense (think what every team did to Eric Grothe in 2008). His defensive structure is terrible as well, they concede so many soft tries and tries in general. They don't wrap up the ball at all so the opposition offloads at will. To top it off, he's most likely lost the support of his players. He should go ASAP if Parramatta want to improve.
 

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