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Knock-on Effect NSW Cup - Eels Team

Gronk

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"In a selfless move, Hodgson took up his option earlier in the 2023 season which earned him a salary worth $350,000.

That number would have been higher if the club had instead taken up his option and extended his contract for a further season."


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Yes, that was a variation to the standard option. It wasn’t by the purest of definitions a MO. The club had a CO at a certain $ value and the player had a PO at a lesser $ value.

Outlier circumstances do not define the general norms.
 

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Yes, that was a variation to the standard option. It wasn’t by the purest of definitions a MO. The club had a CO at a certain $ value and the player had a PO at a lesser $ value.

Outlier circumstances do not define the general norms.
I agree it was a combination PO and CO, but it was described as a MO.

It's the only definition of a mutual option that makes sense and has any legal purpose. You don't need a MO to discuss extending a year. There is zero purpose to it. Contracts are legally binding, not calendar reminders to have a chat in a couple of years.
 
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Yes, that was a variation to the standard option. It wasn’t by the purest of definitions a MO. The club had a CO at a certain $ value and the player had a PO at a lesser $ value.
I actually think the above concept and process is inherent in the "provisions" of a MO, and the discussions of whether a contract is extended and on what exact terms.

I just can't think of any other basis upon which these MO discussions to mutually agree would or could occur - and be officially registered with the NRL as an option year (rather than just standard negotiations to sign a new "extension" contract).

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I agree it was a combination PO and CO, but it was described as a MO.

It's the only definition of a mutual option that makes sense and has any legal purpose. You don't need a MO to discuss extending a year. There is zero purpose to it. Contracts are legally binding, not calendar reminders to have a chat in a couple of years.
I told you before, just because you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't correct.
 
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Yes, that was a variation to the standard option. It wasn’t by the purest of definitions a MO. The club had a CO at a certain $ value and the player had a PO at a lesser $ value.

Outlier circumstances do not define the general norms.
It is, however, sort of consistent with how MO's effectively work in baseball. While the strike price for the option is the same for both the player and the club, there is usually a 'buyout' attached, and so if the player wants to exercise a MO and the club doesn't, the club typically pays a buyout fee (nothing like full salary, but material).
 

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It is, however, sort of consistent with how MO's effectively work in baseball. While the strike price for the option is the same for both the player and the club, there is usually a 'buyout' attached, and so if the player wants to exercise a MO and the club doesn't, the club typically pays a buyout fee (nothing like full salary, but material).
This is true, however I think we can all agree that the innovative option structure used for Josh Hodgson is rare in the NRL or possibly the first ?

Whilst Pou anors struggle to get their heads around a vanilla MO, they are no different than, say, first and last right of refusal clauses (to lease or purchase) in contracts, leases, succession plans or even wills. Unless they have a mechanism to set market value, it is left up to the lessor/vendor to set the price. Accordingly that price can set to encourage the deal, or set beyond a reasonable price to discourage the deal.

Unlike MOs in NRL contracts FLROFR clauses are used frequently in life AND are often too, referred to as nothing clauses.
 

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He will be in Ron Massey cup. Nothing surer. I'm kinda happy for the kid getting his 3yr deal. I'd say it was for about 250-300k a season. His career is done and was ruined by injury.. Atleast he gets something out of it.

he's a good lookin lad...he probably should take up modelling.
 

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Is there a possibility of Dunster moving into the pack? Maybe second row?

He isn't small.

And I get he has lost some pace, but last 2 games back, seems to be decent attacking wise.

Dragons - 10 runs / 96m , 7 TB
Knights - 11 runs / 114, 3 TB

making a pretty decent 9.5 plus m per run. And making decent amount of TB, he is strong.
 

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I don’t think it’s fair we just dump him like garbage. Give him his last year and see if he improves.

and nobody has hacked my account.
He hasn’t looked good at all after his injury but I wish him all the best. I remember Justin Hodges looked like he was done after his ACL injury in the early 2000s but had a miraculous reversal to become one of the best backline players of the modern era.
 

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I don’t think it’s fair we just dump him like garbage. Give him his last year and see if he improves.

and nobody has hacked my account.

Either way he gets his money as has a contract. If we got him out of our top 30 I wouldn't complain. He has had close to 2 full seasons back now and it's been 2 amd a half years since the injury. I'd be pleasantly suprised if he got back to NRL level. But I highly doubt it. Unfortunate but that's rugby league. High contact sport.
 

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So it seems Sanders might have even more competition for a path into first grade next year. I'll be very interested to see how his career turns out

Raiders halfback Adam Cook was named The Knock-On Effect NSW Cup Player of the Year after a stellar season for the Green Machine who finished third on the table.

Cook led the competition for try assists (21), was equal first for line break assists (20), and was second for both points scored (150) and goals (69).

 

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So it seems Sanders might have even more competition for a path into first grade next year. I'll be very interested to see how his career turns out

Raiders halfback Adam Cook was named The Knock-On Effect NSW Cup Player of the Year after a stellar season for the Green Machine who finished third on the table.

Cook led the competition for try assists (21), was equal first for line break assists (20), and was second for both points scored (150) and goals (69).

Maybe we should buy him as our backup half.
 

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So it seems Sanders might have even more competition for a path into first grade next year. I'll be very interested to see how his career turns out

Raiders halfback Adam Cook was named The Knock-On Effect NSW Cup Player of the Year after a stellar season for the Green Machine who finished third on the table.

Cook led the competition for try assists (21), was equal first for line break assists (20), and was second for both points scored (150) and goals (69).

Cook is 25 next year, I don't think he even had a top 30 contract this year with the raiders. He was on a train/trial during last offseason. Has nothing for next year at this stage.


Additionally Saunders isn't that far behind Cook, he has 15 TA and 14 LBA, he also has 11 tries.....Cook 3.....

I think Cook is close to peak...Saunders just at the start....
 

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