last weeks kicking game.

[blacktip-reefy]

Read a lot of people bagging it.
I thought it was not perfect, but still pretty good.
I think Hilder repeating his 40/20 after the failure the week before shows he can do them well.
Couple of corner bombs were good, general clearing kicks had some starch.
Im not overly happy with Vaganas "always kick" attitude though.

 

[black_dot]

okay I thought, a bit lucky with a few bounces but that's footy.

 

[newman]

Im startng to get sick of the word 'starch'.

 

[MightySharks]

When Sully kicks it watch closely for this.

You know when you see a girl kick (no offence ladies) or some one uncoordinated kick, rather that place the ball on their boot they through the ball up high and then kick it. This is what Sully does which results in inconsistent kicking. He does it all the time, leave the kicking for someone else where possible Sully.

 

[McLovin]

Im startng to get sick of the word 'starch'.

Almost as annoying as "hehe"...

 

[McLovin]

I liked Peacheys little toe-bash mini bomb he did for Covells wing. It looked a little weird but thats peachey for you...

 

[Frenzy.]

Read a lot of people bagging it.
I thought it was not perfect, but still pretty good.
I think Hilder repeating his 40/20 after the failure the week before shows he can do them well.
Couple of corner bombs were good, general clearing kicks had some starch.
Im not overly happy with Vaganas "always kick" attitude though.

I agree. I noted that one member here used poor kicking in his ratings as a contributory factor in the low rating he gave Dykesy (you know who you are millers you merkin! :lol

I thought Dykes kicking was very good. Not exceptional as we have come to expect from Noddy but it was good nevertheless. Perhaps some of us want everyone to pull it up on a penny.

I also think Hilder showed himself to be another possible 5/8. His 40/20 wasn't the first he's done and I can clearly remember he was quite good at the short kicking when he came into grade. Given the chance to kick consistently I believe he could really exhibit some decent skills.

When Sully kicks it watch closely for this.
You know when you see a girl kick (no offence ladies) or some one uncoordinated kick, rather that place the ball on their boot they through the ball up high and then kick it. This is what Sully does which results in inconsistent kicking. He does it all the time, leave the kicking for someone else where possible Sully.

I agree. His technique is abominable. Coupled with his passing it's hard to believe he was once a fulltime 1/2. Too many games in the scrum might of affected him now, who knows? It's all stuff that can be fixed over a bit of time but he doesn't have any. He's simply not going to get enough game time as a half while BK and AD remain reasonably fit. Therefore as you said MS he should keep out of the kicking.

 

[millersnose]

dykes kicked it dead ...lots

peach had a good grubber
hilder did a great 40/20
vagana got some repeat sets

so apart from dykes the kicking was good

 

[Macca]

Dykes did kick the ball dead though, 3 times if not more from memory.

Bird kicked it out on the full.

Sully kicked it dead atleast once.

Several kicks went straight down Wessers throat.

But yeah apart from all that it was great.

 

[Mr Angry]

I hate when I agree with Millers.
But 100% I do.

 

[millersnose]

merry festivus mr envy

 

[Mr Angry]

:lol:

Bit early mate I'm still handing out angry eggs.

Anyways I am getting my forums confused, I tend to agree with you a lot here, except I don't want BK's babies.

 

[Frenzy.]

Why is kicking it dead so bad?

We still get field position from it and it still clears us from our end. I'd understand if he was kicking it straight to player or out on the full but he was finding space and turning them around. We were in their half for basically the whole time he was on the field. We didn't get their from running alone. Personally I would rate Dykesy's kicking game a 7/10 overall.

 

[millersnose]

kicking it dead means we cant pin them or get a repeat set

watch the replay and dykes reactions

they were not the kicks he wanted

 

[Mr Angry]

Why is kicking it dead so bad?

Well it could be worse - out on the full etc. But...

Gives the attacking team time to set and they will probably get thier kick away from around half way, seeing as they have 5 plays from the 20 metre mark.

A good down town sit up near the try line, a good chase has the first tackle near the ten, with some pussy (should be drowned at birth) winger ruck it up and on the 4th or 5th they are kicking from the 30 or 40.

Not sure of you point DV, are you suggesting this should be our strategy?

 

[SirShire]

I thought we had the better kicking game. Much better kicking inside the opposition 40 than Penrith. Alot of dud Gower kicks.

Went dead too much for mine, but some top Hilder/Peach kicks for mine.

 

[Frenzy.]

kicking it dead means we cant pin them or get a repeat set

watch the replay and dykes reactions

they were not the kicks he wanted

Well I have watched it 3 times now We were not going to get repeat sets on any of the ones that went dead anyway. There were no chasers within cooee but their were Pennies players there to run the ball out - with broken field running.

I wouldn't take too much stock in Dykes reactions to be honest. He's a perfectionist and very hard on himself. The look could also of been because he has a bad left ankle and was kicking left footed i.e. pain reaction. :lol: True though.

BK kicks plenty dead as well.

Well it could be worse - out on the full etc. But...

Gives the attacking team time to set and they will probably get thier kick away from around half way, seeing as they have 5 plays from the 20 metre mark.

A good down town sit up near the try line, a good chase has the first tackle near the ten, with some pussy (should be drowned at birth) winger ruck it up and on the 4th or 5th they are kicking from the 30 or 40.

Not sure of you point DV, are you suggesting this should be our strategy?

Gives our defence time to set as well. For this game I don't think that was a bad thing. Better than giving Wesser room to run.

No Angry Man I'm not suggesting that. I'm just saying that the results weren't bad and the kicks weren't bad. It's unreasonable to expect Kimmorley type results from kickers who don't kick regularly IMO.

 

[chili pepper]

A couple of Dykes kicks just missed the corner flags. A metre or two the other side and they are brilliant. Fine line between a great kick and an average one!

 

[Macca]

I'll tell you why Da Vinci, because getting a kick to stop before the dead ball line gives us the chance to pin them for one in there own 10 or in goal. That's better than giving them zero tackle on the 20 and probably the 30 for one. Field position is measured in metres, you are giving away 20 odd metres for free.

Just on field position for a moment, I'd like to give Covell another wrap. His kick offs are a great improvement to us aswell. Instead of the opposition returning the kick off out towards the 30 metre line like last year, his extra height and distance sees us get 'em inside the 20 nearly every time.

 

[Mr Angry]

No Angry Man I'm not suggesting that. I'm just saying that the results weren't bad and the kicks weren't bad. It's unreasonable to expect Kimmorley type results from kickers who don't kick regularly IMO.

I take your point, but a first grade 1/2 needs a good kicking game. Hence Dykes usually plays 6.