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Latrell is not a fullback

Valheru

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No chance. Latrell isn’t fit to tie Dylan’s shoes. No way I’d swap. I’m pretty sure Parra fans would feel the same about Gutho. Tries saved are as good as the ones scored. He has a better highlight reel, but that’s about it.
That might be the case but that doesn't mean you're right.

I stand by what I said. Swap Latrell and Edwards, Penrith get stronger and souths get weaker.
 

soc123_au

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Wayne completely got into Ivan's head that week and I reckon it had an effect on the team. Being played a neutral venue didn't hurt either. Blake did go good though, but he was hugely ineffective in the GF and played a large part in the game being played mostly in our end (not his fault).

EDIT - also, it's not easily exploited. No-one but Penrith has been able to do it.
Cleary was god tier with his kicking that night. Positionaly Taffe was fine, no easy tries from kicks, just pinned coming out of trouble. If Latrell played we win by 20+ instead of 2.
 

soc123_au

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That might be the case but that doesn't mean you're right.

I stand by what I said. Swap Latrell and Edwards, Penrith get stronger and souths get weaker.
It’s all just opinion. It’s never going to happen, so no one will be proven right or wrong. I stand by my opinion though.
Latrell is a better footy player, but Dylan is a better fullback.
 

Valheru

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Also, Latrell is fullback at every club that doesn't have Tedesco, Trbojevic, Edwards or Papenhuyzen.

Do people honestly think Souths would have been any better with Latrell at left centre with Blake Taaffe or Kodi Nikorima feeding him the ball?

As I said, maybe this topic could be entertained if we had held on to Sua'ali'i. But we didn't, and so he is head-and-shoulders the best fullback at our club, and good enough to singlehandedly defeat every team not named Penrith (like we did in the run into the PF).

Souths not being good enough to defeat Penrith isn't solely down to Latrell Mitchell. He is just a convenient punching bag because he is widely outspoken. Our 9 and 6 have been a constant over the past 5 prelims, and whilst get the accolades for getting us there should also get the criticism for not getting us that elusive 22nd premiership.
You're wasting your time on this one.

Edwards is godlike as far as PENRITH fans are concerned which you can understand why

Of course, it goes beyond the results of the 2 teams, Edwards plays behind a forward pack that has barely been out muscled in 3 years and the NSW spine minus Teddy.

Swap the players and I doubt Souths even make the 8 this year.
 

Smug Panther

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You're wasting your time on this one.

Edwards is godlike as far as PENRITH fans are concerned which you can understand why

Of course, it goes beyond the results of the 2 teams, Edwards plays behind a forward pack that has barely been out muscled in 3 years and the NSW spine minus Teddy.

Swap the players and I doubt Souths even make the 8 this year.
Our backs carry our forwards. Playing prop for Penrith is one of the easiest jobs in the NRL
 

Munky

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Our backs carry our forwards. Playing prop for Penrith is one of the easiest jobs in the NRL

Three years in and it still doesn't get noticed that the Penrith forwards don't even bother to get onside until the ruck is past our 40m line following a kick return.

Our back five do all the work until we get to the 40m.

Then Yeo, JFH or Leota take a hit up or two before they chase the kick.

Liam Martin and Kikau do f**k all traditional forward work during the grind.
 

soc123_au

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You're wasting your time on this one.

Edwards is godlike as far as PENRITH fans are concerned which you can understand why

Of course, it goes beyond the results of the 2 teams, Edwards plays behind a forward pack that has barely been out muscled in 3 years and the NSW spine minus Teddy.

Swap the players and I doubt Souths even make the 8 this year.
I don’t think you will find too many of us saying Dylan is better than Teddy. I’d argue that he has been better this year, but on Skill and what you want from a 1 Teddy is the benchmark.
 

chrisD

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Had Wayne spent the million a season on something that'd contribute for Souths in the finals then the Rabbits might have been a credible rival to us these last 3 seasons.

Thank you Uncle Wayne.
 

Bazal

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Devalues actual racism.

100%

Kids like Pippen who've grown up in a Twitter political landscape of extreme left vs extreme right lack any understanding of the real world, unfortunately. They also don't care about actual issues, because their entire energy is consumed by bullshit. My little sister is in that group too.

The "left" see racism, phobias and bigotry behind every word and every post, and the "right" see socialism, "political correctness" and "woke agenda" between every line.

In reality no one but absolutely insane people operates either way. I grew up rebelling against an insane military right wing dad, so to see knuckleheads calling folks racist for calling a dude lazy or uninterested when actual bigots exist is a bit sad if I'm honest.
 

Pippen94

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100%

Kids like Pippen who've grown up in a Twitter political landscape of extreme left vs extreme right lack any understanding of the real world, unfortunately. They also don't care about actual issues, because their entire energy is consumed by bullshit. My little sister is in that group too.

The "left" see racism, phobias and bigotry behind every word and every post, and the "right" see socialism, "political correctness" and "woke agenda" between every line.

In reality no one but absolutely insane people operates either way. I grew up rebelling against an insane military right wing dad, so to see knuckleheads calling folks racist for calling a dude lazy or uninterested when actual bigots exist is a bit sad if I'm honest.

Pretty shitty debating tactic calling somebody a kid but if u can't win an argument well..
In the real world there's such a thing as stereotypes which are 100% racist & harmful and can be applied in a very offhand, but supercilious manner. Kinda like the whole tone of ur post.
Lazy is a very rare putdown for a pro sportsperson. Dave Taylor has been brought up, but he's a fairly obscure name & I never heard that anyway. If you want me list indigenous players who got labelled that I'll go to the very best; Beetson, GI, the Ella's.
Lots of literature about this topic out there, some of which of I've posted, but if you just want to be smug, condensing & think u know better than more learned ppl go ahead. Very extreme twitter like mind set you have..
 

Bazal

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Pretty shitty debating tactic calling somebody a kid but if u can't win an argument well..
In the real world there's such a thing as stereotypes which are 100% racist & harmful and can be applied in a very offhand, but supercilious manner. Kinda like the whole tone of ur post.
Lazy is a very rare putdown for a pro sportsperson. Dave Taylor has been brought up, but he's a fairly obscure name & I never heard that anyway. If you want me list indigenous players who got labelled that I'll go to the very best; Beetson, GI, the Ella's.
Lots of literature about this topic out there, some of which of I've posted, but if you just want to be smug, condensing & think u know better than more learned ppl go ahead. Very extreme twitter like mind set you have..

Tbh I would have to have been speaking to you to be "debating", but anyway. As I said in another thread, you're not interested and I'm not interested in "debating" with dogmatism.

Just FYI, here's a list off the top of my head of the players I've called lazy (or some variation of) recently. Let me know at what point you think it's a problem?

Maika Sivo
Oregon Kaufusi
Waqa Blake
Reed Mahoney
Bruce Cartwright
Corey Oates
Anthony Milford
Shaun Johnson
The West Tigers Football Club and Operations
The entire Canberra Raiders top 17
Latrell Mitchell
 

fowlster

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I wonder where everybody here stands on Adam goodes?! Glasshouses

No player is above criticism on the football field.
Lazy is one word of many that we are entitled to use for that criticism.

No one here is throwing bananas at Latrell you spud.

F**k you must be a joy to be around.
 

ACTPanthers

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Amazing lazy player can be such a high achiever?! What's ur excuse??
Don't need one brother, I've achieved more than enough in my chosen field.

You do understand the difference between naturally gifted, and a hard worker, right?

Genuine question, are you indigenous?
 

Pippen94

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No player is above criticism on the football field.
Lazy is one word of many that we are entitled to use for that criticism.

No one here is throwing bananas at Latrell you spud.

F**k you must be a joy to be around.

..so u going to answer question about Goodes??
 

Pippen94

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Don't need one brother, I've achieved more than enough in my chosen field.

You do understand the difference between naturally gifted, and a hard worker, right?

Genuine question, are you indigenous?

Natural gifts can get you only so far. Nobody gets to pinnacle of Rugby League without hard work.
 

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