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Legal action imminent over S14 absentees

gunnamatta bay

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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10420031




Absent All Blacks spark lawsuit threat

Saturday January 20, 2007
By
Patrick Gower



Graham Henry's plan to rest his All Black stars could lead to court action against the New Zealand Rugby Union if television ratings for this year's Super 14 fall.
South African TV network Supersport has told the Weekend Herald it is prepared to take action to recoup any losses should viewer numbers drop when the competition starts in two weeks.
And the Rupert Murdoch-controlled News Ltd has said it will take on the NZRU for it.
Supersport chief executive Imtiaz Patel said the 1.7 million-subscriber network was disappointed the top 22 All Blacks, including Daniel Carter and Richie McCaw, would not play in the first seven rounds.
He believed the NZRU was contracted to play its best players, and said Supersport would watch the ratings closely. It would monitor ratings for the entire competition, not just in the games featuring New Zealand teams without top players.
In 2004, News Ltd signed a $660 million contract with the Sanzar alliance of New Zealand, Australian and South African unions for the rights to Super 14.
It sells the games on to regional networks such as Supersport.
The deal is due to be renegotiated after the 2010 season.
A News Ltd spokesman said the company would seek compensation from the NZRU if Supersport or one of the other rights holders - the Murdoch-controlled Fox Sports in Australia, BSkyB in Britain and Sky in New Zealand - notified it of lost ratings and revenue.
Fox Sports and BSkyB would not comment when asked if they too would take action should their ratings drop.
Sky sport director Kevin Cameron said the company supported the NZRU's decision to rest top players and give the All Blacks the best chance to win the World Cup as that would only strengthen interest in the Super 14 in 2008.
He believed ratings were unlikely to drop, and pointed out that there had been no drop when the World Cup All Blacks were missing from the national provincial championship in 2003.
But Mr Cameron did not altogether rule out seeking compensation, saying: "If there is a dramatic drop in viewership for any of our events, we sit down with the people we did the deals with and talk them through."
NZRU chief executive Chris Moller refused to comment.
But a spokesman said the matter had been sorted out soon after Henry's plan was confirmed in September, and the union did not believe it would have to pay compensation.
Mr Patel disagreed, saying Supersport - the only one of the networks not controlled by Murdoch - viewed it as an issue.
He tried to persuade the NZRU to change its mind in a telephone call late last year but said it was "adamant" the players would be rested.
"I said, 'Come on guys, I don't believe common sense can't prevail here', but that was it.
"I was told the whole of New Zealand was behind the idea."
Mr Patel would not say how much Supersport paid for its rights or say how it would calculate any compensation demand.
He said the NZRU's unilateral decision signalled problems for the Sanzar alliance because it set a precedent that the member unions could go their own way whenever an issue close to their heart arose.
He understood the South African union was unhappy with the NZRU's stance.
But on a lighter note, he saw benefits for South Africa from the absence of the top All Blacks.
"Tongue in cheek, this might be our best chance of winning it."
 

gunnamatta bay

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Twizzle said:
so who runs Rugby in NZ ?

NZRU
the fans
or the media

The nzru Twizzle. The same mob who signed contracts to provide a number of full strength teams for the super 14 competition for payment of quite a lot of money.
 

Twizzle

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gunnamatta bay said:
The nzru Twizzle. The same mob who signed contracts to provide a number of full strength teams for the super 14 competition for payment of quite a lot of money.

I am aware of that, it was a rhetorical question that wont be ansewed till this unfolds

I can understand why they are doing it, but I can also understand the frustration of the fans.

I think the NZRU should have the final say, not the media
 

Te Kaha

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The NZRFU is gambling here.. and they should win... The All Blacks are the money earner.. IF and it is still an IF (although not much of one) the All Blacks win the world cup they will hold all the cards... they will be the holders and next hosts... Skytv here know this, that is why they are not saying anything other than "we fully support the NZRFU"...

If the All Blacks win the cup News ltd wont touch them... no matter what ratings "loses" occur...

As for the fans... there is almost universal approval of the move from the NZ Rugby public... The Yarpies are only complaining because they wish they had the depth to do it themselves.. and as they probably wont be in the provential tournament when next the tv rights are renewed it doesnt really affect them... and the ARU stabbed the NZRFU in the back twice so they can go to hell....
 

Twizzle

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I guess its a matter of priorities for the fans as well

whats more important to them, their S14 team or their national team
 

ozbash

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both twizz, well for me anyway.

luckily my S14 team wont be badly affected. The Chiefs dont have a lot of AB,s.

Last year we were All Blackless for a good part of S14 and Air NZ Cup. It evened up the comps, the games v teams with a lot of All Blacks wernt the walkovers they normally are.

If it helps Henry bring the Cup home, then good on the NZRFU,

Who the f**k are the Sth Africans trying to tell how to play the game ?
they should sort themselves out first.
 

Sanchez

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it will all come down to whether they win the wc or not
if they do they made the right choice
if they dont well then
 

Dr Crane

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What the South African broadcaster is trying to do it make a quick buck off declining TV ratings.
 

SpaceMonkey

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gunnamatta bay said:
All pay tv subscribers should email their providers to protest the nzru's arrogant plans.

Why would they bother? NZ fans don't care, most of us will happily see our S14 teams go without their stars if it benefits the ABs, and we'll watch our teams regardless of whether th star players are there or not. Fans of the other franchises should be happy because their teams have a better chance of knocking the top NZ sides over while the ABs are out. It might even boost the ratings of Crusaders games because it's not so much of a foregone conclusion that they will steamroll everybody they play.
 

SpaceMonkey

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Have to say the whole basis for this is looking pretty shaky right now. 4 weeks in and NZ teams are placed 1st, 2nd, 5th, 6th and it looks more as if the ABs abscence has simply prevented NZ dominance and improved the compettiveness of the tournament if anything.
 

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