Lu penrith panthers all time 17 - nominations for fullback.

[PenrithPanther45]

Fox Sports 1 is replaying classic matches in Penrith's history (1995,2004,2010 etc.) until 10pm

 

[franklin2323]

Hey guys I'm going to need 8 nominations for fullback so they can go into a poll.

Mentioned on here: Wesser. Levy, Dann, Barwick, Robard. Leary. Gordon. Moylan

 

[TheFrog]

The trouble with Rhys Wesser was that he began to slow down not long after really hitting his straps. Thus he was really only at his best for 2 or 3 seasons. Still, I think the Rhys Wesser of 2003 is the best fullback Penrith have had.

As someone indicated earlier, Alexander at fullback in order to put Gower at half is certainly an option.

Moylan needs a couple more years yet to be able to compete for honours like this.

 

[murraymob]

Carter is a pretty big name to leave out.

depends are you rating fittler on his whole career or his time at penrith.Carter wins if its his time at penrith

 

[TheFrog]

Is Royce a clear choice ahead of Priddis? I'm only 29 and was a Bears fan until Manly raped and killed them.

Yes, I think so, although Priddo would certainly be in contention for a bench spot.

 

[murraymob]

you would have to find a bench spot for Bill Ashurst a lazy bastard who loved a few beers and didnt like to train.But come game time had the ball skills to match any past or present panther

 

[TheFrog]

Ashurst made the Team of Legends a few years back while the far more reliable and hardworking fellow Pom Mike Stephenson missed out. Ashurst is up against some champion backrowers, he wasn't at the club all that long (46 first grade games), and he could have a shocker just as easily as a blinder, all of which go against him in my view.

 

[murraymob]

Ashurst made the Team of Legends a few years back while the far more reliable and hardworking fellow Pom Mike Stephenson missed out. Ashurst is up against some champion backrowers, he wasn't at the club all that long (46 first grade games), and he could have a shocker just as easily as a blinder, all of which go against him in my view.

stephenson was up against simmons while just as good he was never going to be in front

 

[Buzzard Breath]

depends are you rating fittler on his whole career or his time at penrith.Carter wins if its his time at penrith

Exactly. Fittler rarely played 6 for Penrith he mostly played in the centres then later on at Lock.
You could argue Carter kept him out of six or it was better for the team balance to have him play elsewhere.

 

[Pomoz]

Exactly. Fittler rarely played 6 for Penrith he mostly played in the centres then later on at Lock.
You could argue Carter kept him out of six or it was better for the team balance to have him play elsewhere.

Carter didn't keep Fittler out of six. I don't want to be disrespectful of Steve Carter's contribution to Penrith, but he wasn't in the same universe as Fittler as a player. He was a very limited player with a woeful passing game, but had a big ticker and tried his guts out. Freddie played centre because Carter couldn't and Col Bentley and Graham Bradley were very average centres. The team was more balanced that way.

Preston Campbell was a better 5/8th than Steve Carter. Gower would be a better 5/8th. Girdler would be a better 5/8th even though he played there a handful of times. Soward has him covered as well. He wouldn't make the bench in a top Penrith team, not even close.

As for Royce, I had the privilege to watch both him and Priddis play live on multiple occasions. In my view, he was ripped off for the Clive Churchill medal in the 1991 grand final. Just the first try when he barrelled Glen Lazurus over was worth the medal on its own. But two tries and still no medal?

But I digress, I love Royce but couldn't put him in front of Luke Priddis. They were both tough as teak, but Priddis just had more skill than Royce.

 

[soc123_au]

Couldnt agree more Pomoz. Carter was a great clubman & deserves to be fondly remembered, but when it comes to comparisons with other players to wear the 6 for Penrith he really only compares to Travis Burns, no disrespect to either Burns or Carter, but they are both behind Fittler, Preston & Soward.

 

[Blade23]

Carter didn't keep Fittler out of six. I don't want to be disrespectful of Steve Carter's contribution to Penrith, but he wasn't in the same universe as Fittler as a player. He was a very limited player with a woeful passing game, but had a big ticker and tried his guts out. Freddie played centre because Carter couldn't and Col Bentley and Graham Bradley were very average centres. The team was more balanced that way.

Preston Campbell was a better 5/8th than Steve Carter. Gower would be a better 5/8th. Girdler would be a better 5/8th even though he played there a handful of times. Soward has him covered as well. He wouldn't make the bench in a top Penrith team, not even close.

No doubt Fittler was greater player than Carter.
I like Steve Carter great clubman but not Penrith's best 5/8th.
But the point is when you are picking a team of legends you need to look at where that player played most of their football for the club.
Fittler was here from 1989 - 1995 for 119 games. How many games did he play at 5/8th? 20 or 30?
I don't care where he played in origin or test football or what he achieved at the Roosters. Its what position he excelled at Penrith during his time here.
For mine I don't think he played enough football at 5/8th for Penrith to be judged Penrith's best 5/8th. I would have him in the centres with Girdler going by his early years at the club.

 

[TheFrog]

As for Royce, I had the privilege to watch both him and Priddis play live on multiple occasions. In my view, he was ripped off for the Clive Churchill medal in the 1991 grand final. Just the first try when he barrelled Glen Lazurus over was worth the medal on its own. But two tries and still no medal?

Senator Lazarus no less.....still, I think Brandy should have won the medal for his second half game management and his role in the match-turning try. The field goal was a magnificent clutch play as well, then finally a sideline conversion to ensure victory.

Preston Campbell was a better 5/8th than Steve Carter.

Carter didn't have to be hidden in defence. It's a tough call this, because I believe Presto was the x factor in attack that led to us winning the comp. But had he been surrounded by a team that could not cover up his defensive issues, his spark would be wasted. This is why he found himself in reserve grade at Cronulla.

 

[Pomoz]

But the point is when you are picking a team of legends you need to look at where that player played most of their football for the club.

I guess that is your interpretation of what picking a team of legends means. I choose to pick the best players, as long as they actually did play in a position for the club. Fittler played for NSW and Australia while playing for Penrith and played at 5/8th, lock and centre from memory. Fittler and Girdler at centre would be awesome. Mind you, you could argue that Jennings is a better centre than Fittler was. Jennings and Girdler at centre, Fittler at 5/8th and Brandy at half. My God, Jennings would have RSI from all the gaps Brandy put him through and tries he scored as a result. How much would you love to have seen that!!!!

 

[soc123_au]

I guess that is your interpretation of what picking a team of legends means. I choose to pick the best players, as long as they actually did play in a position for the club. Fittler played for NSW and Australia while playing for Penrith and played at 5/8th, lock and centre from memory. Fittler and Girdler at centre would be awesome. Mind you, you could argue that Jennings is a better centre than Fittler was. Jennings and Girdler at centre, Fittler at 5/8th and Brandy at half. My God, Jennings would have RSI from all the gaps Brandy put him through and tries he scored as a result. How much would you love to have seen that!!!!

The bold part is making me rethink on whether to go Izzard or Jennings tbh. When you look at Jennings strike rate ie tries scored - games played it is hard to leave him out. Especially when you consider the halves he played with. Pritchard certainly helped with his numbers, but the guy is a freak in his own right.

 

[grifter]

Senator Lazarus no less.....still, I think Brandy should have won the medal for his second half game management and his role in the match-turning try. The field goal was a magnificent clutch play as well, then finally a sideline conversion to ensure victory.



Carter didn't have to be hidden in defence. It's a tough call this, because I believe Presto was the x factor in attack that led to us winning the comp. But had he been surrounded by a team that could not cover up his defensive issues, his spark would be wasted. This is why he found himself in reserve grade at Cronulla.

Carter didn't have to be hidden in defence, but maybe he should have been. He was a great player, but tackling wasn't his forte. He deadset seemed to miss more than he made when defending front on. He had a strange technique where he would go high and either get bounced off or would give away a penalty.

No disrespect intended, and he did often slow the attacker down - but let's not pretend he was The Axe . . .

 

[madunit]

Gee, I always thought Brandy was at his best when he was at fullback. One of my 3 all time favourite players. The bloke was phenomonal and was so unlucky to be playing at a time when he had guys like Garry Jack, Gary Belcher, Dale Shearer, Brett Mullins, Wally Lewis, Des Hasler, Terry Lamb, Brett Kenny, Peter Sterling, Alan Langer, Ricky Stuart and others who he had to compete against for origin and test spots.

 

[franklin2323]

Couldnt agree more Pomoz. Carter was a great clubman & deserves to be fondly remembered, but when it comes to comparisons with other players to wear the 6 for Penrith he really only compares to Travis Burns, no disrespect to either Burns or Carter, but they are both behind Fittler, Preston & Soward.

I don't remember anyone that played with more heart then Carter but as for skill level a few are above him. Freddie is the greatest 5/8th NSW has produced. Surely he gets in the best side in a club which he played 2/3 GF they have made?

 

[maple_69]

Really depends on the criteria. Filter only ever filled in at 5/8 for us when Freeman, Carter or Brandy were not available. He played Centre or lock 90% of the time with us. Those were the positions he represented in while he was with us also and the positions that made him one of the best players in the game. If he had retired in 95 rather than going to Easts this wouldn't be a conversation. I think it would be the same as putting Sing on the wing even though he mostly played Centre for us and achieved greatness as a winger elsewhere.

 

[umina panther]

Senator Lazarus no less.....still, I think Brandy should have won the medal for his second half game management and his role in the match-turning try. The field goal was a magnificent clutch play as well, then finally a sideline conversion to ensure victory.



Carter didn't have to be hidden in defence. It's a tough call this, because I believe Presto was the x factor in attack that led to us winning the comp. But had he been surrounded by a team that could not cover up his defensive issues, his spark would be wasted. This is why he found himself in reserve grade at Cronulla.

Presto found himself in reserves at Cronulla because Chris Anderson is a tard and no other reason