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Manly Sea Eagles 2006 season preview

Sea_Eagles_Rock

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http://www.leagueunlimited.com/article.asp?ID=9854

Manly Sea Eagles 2006 season preview
Written by: Michael Treacy
4/03/2006
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Likely squad: Brett Stewart, Michael Robertson, Steven Bell, Ashley Alberts, Chris Hicks, Travis Burns, Matt Orford, Brent Kite, Michael Monaghan, Jason King, Anthony Watmough, Steve Menzies, Ben Kennedy
Interchange: Shayne Dunley, Kylie Leuluai, George Rose, Luke Williamson

Strengths:

Manly’s forwards are strong and versatile, meaning that they will be mobile in attack and defence. This is a great attribute to have in a forward pack. With experienced campaigners like Kennedy and Menzies along with exciting talent like Anthony Watmough, the Manly forward pack is one to be feared in the NRL.

Matt Orford is an obvious strength for the Manly club. Not since Geoff Toovey has the Manly club had a halfback that is good enough to lead them to a premiership.

Brett Stewart is one of the most exciting fullbacks in the game. He possesses electrifying pace and can score a try from anywhere on the field. Only his poor defensive errors prevent him from being the complete fullback package.

Matt Orford’s combination with Steven Bell will be crucial for Manly’s success this season. Bell was one of the leading line breakers in the NRL in 2005 and Manly will be hoping that continues in 2006. Orford has a great combination with Bell and if that continues, Manly will score plenty of points in 2006 on the back of it.

Weaknesses:

Manly’s backline apart from Bell and Stewart still looks rather fragile. Chris Hicks, Michael Robertson and Ashley Alberts are not exactly the type of players to strike fear into the hearts of their opposition numbers. For Manly to succeed they will need for Ashley Alberts to finally realise his potential as a player or hope of securing Jamie Lyon in 2007.

Manly may have two of their key positions covered for 2006 in their fullback and halfback, but they do not have stable options for five-eighth and hooker. Travis Burns may be an exciting young talent but he is untried at NRL level and Michael Monaghan is a player that could be low on confidence in a new position. This could be a problem for Manly in 2006.

Des Hasler is not the best coach going around in NRL circles, but even he has to recognise the lack of depth currently at Manly. If Orford was to become injured, they do have the options available to counter that. However, Manly may lack available options to effectively replace key players in other key positions.

One to Watch:

Travis Burns is a product of Texas in Qld. The light footed five-eighth/halfback will be looking to link up in a halves combination with Matt Orford this season as the opportunity to shine now presents itself. With Michael Witt seemingly looking like he’ll never play First Grade again due to defensive lapses, the opportunity for young Travis to cement a First Grade spot has heightened.

The talented playmaker made a couple of appearances in 2005 which set him up to be one of the better prospects to come out of Manly in recent years. In his few appearances he was cool under pressure and had a good kicking game. He still has room to develop his game a lot more and I’m sure with a good halfback at his side in Matt Orford we will see the best of Travis Burns in 2006.

Gains and Losses:

Gains: Matt Orford, Steve Bell, Michael Robertson, George Rose.

Losses: Terry Hill, Chad Randall, Scott Donald, Sam Harris, Jye Mullane, Nathan Hollingsworth.

Assessment:

I believe Manly have the halfback, fullback and forward pack in order to win the competition, but I don’t believe they can do it with the existing players in the #6 and #9 jerseys. Manly will be competitive in 2006 and will more than likely repeat their top 8 effort this season, however I don’t believe they have the required strike power or creativity in key positions to take out the 2006 NRL Premiership.

My Prediction – 6th-10th.

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So Dunley is no good at Hooker? Monaghan played Hooker prior to arriving at Manly. Witt played 5/8 last year, nuff said on that though.

Now I have worked out the average tries scored across all the teams and Manly has a 33% average tries per game across their squad. No in terms of the comp that is the 2nd best rate. 2nd only to the Roosters on 36%. The League average across the teams is 25%. So effectively I expect a good 'FOR' for the Manly side.

The issue for years has been defence. The main question that needs to be answered is has Manly improved that department of their game? Clearly a few of the issues in tackling have been fixed by the change in team...

As for this subjective BS the author has put in about Des Hasler not being "best coach going around in NRL circles"... Why even put that garbage into an article. He got Manly in the 8 last season with a squad that some 'experts' predicted to come 2nd last in 2005. I think it also worth remembering Des was appointed to NSWRL SoO side as an assistant coach. As far as I am concerned Des Hasler has a reasonable squad to work with this year. Unless injuries destroy the season it should be quite a good year for him and the club.
 

Harold Bishop

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Stephenson to wing for Robertson, Monas to 5/8 for Burns, Ballin to Hooker and Cuthbo on the bench in place of Rose.
 

Big Mick

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what do you want?

I picked you to come 6th?

If you think your gonna come Top 4 your delusional.
 

willvillain

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Not a bad summary. I don't think that Burns will get that much game time this year. Especially not in the early rounds, but you never know.

I agree that Manly will be 6th or there abouts. I'd be suprised (and very dissapointed) if they dropped as low as 10th.

Des has only coached two seasons of NRL. I think he has the potential to be a good coach, but at the moment you're right - he's certainly not in the top 8 coaches.

But be careful about underrating Chris Hicks. He's a quality player and has been Manly's best 3/4 since he signed two years ago. I reckon he's set for a big year.
 

Big Mick

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Thats what I mean...he has potential but he isn't a top coach yet...I don't mean he's totally useless like who Penrith have signed to coach next year...just isn't up with the best of them yet.

I don't underrate Chris Hicks...but he is hot and cold. Fortunately he's been more hot than cold the last two seasons.
 

Sea_Eagles_Rock

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Big Mick © said:
what do you want?

I picked you to come 6th?

If you think your gonna come Top 4 your delusional.

6-10 is not 6th.

And talking of delusional... http://www.leagueunlimited.com/article.asp?ID=9842...

Tell me exactly what happens if Gower gets injured? Or Preston? Or say Johns at Newcastle? You talked about Manly being screwed if Orford is injured? Well at least Monaghan can actually play halfback and is experienced at NRL level. There is only a handful of clubs that can replace a halfback, and basically none that can replace a halfback with another halfback that has plenty of experience at halfback. Losing Orford would be less damaging to Manly than Gower or Johns to their teams.
 

effnic

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I think your being a bit harsh on poor big mick. Imo it was a great read thanks mate. I hope the eagles can make the top 4 though would be awesome.
 

Big Mick

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I pick Penrith 6th-11th and i'm delusional?

A team that has more internationals and rep players than yours...a better halfback...a genuine five-eight...a ****load better hooker and an even fullback...yeah i'm delusional.

Our backbone is stronger than yours...you've got Chris Hicks and Steve Bell...we have Rooney, Lewis and Youngquest that can all find the line.

Our forward pack is just as good as the best in the competition...and our bench doesn't have much impact unless Frank plays there but its still a decent bench.

As for your thing if Gower gets injured....umm Dally M Medallist from 2001 Preston Campbell can play halfback...also Luke Priddis has also played halfback. We've got young Peter Wallace who had a taste last year and almost won us the game on debut when we had 5 players out on Origin duty.

So we've got 2 other NRL quality halfbacks if Gower gets injured as well as a very promising one who's tasted NRL....but you know...I'M delusional.

How many other teams have 3 players that can fill in at halfback that are of NRL quality.....
 

Sea_Eagles_Rock

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Big Mick © said:
I pick Penrith 6th-11th and i'm delusional?

A team that has more internationals and rep players than yours...a better halfback...a genuine five-eight...a ****load better hooker and an even fullback...yeah i'm delusional.

Our backbone is stronger than yours...you've got Chris Hicks and Steve Bell...we have Rooney, Lewis and Youngquest that can all find the line.

Our forward pack is just as good as the best in the competition...and our bench doesn't have much impact unless Frank plays there but its still a decent bench.

As for your thing if Gower gets injured....umm Dally M Medallist from 2001 Preston Campbell can play halfback...also Luke Priddis has also played halfback. We've got young Peter Wallace who had a taste last year and almost won us the game on debut when we had 5 players out on Origin duty.

So we've got 2 other NRL quality halfbacks if Gower gets injured as well as a very promising one who's tasted NRL....but you know...I'M delusional.

How many other teams have 3 players that can fill in at halfback that are of NRL quality.....

Based on your earlier assessment you claimed you picked Manly as 6th. So I assumed you would say you took Penrith as 6th also then. I would be very disappointed if we do not place better than Penrith this year.

If Gower gets injured and Preston or Priddis moves to Halfback. Who is going to come in and play their role at 5/8 or Hooker? Experienced?

You commented on Manly's depth because you felt they don't have any options at 5/8 or Hooker. But we do have Witt, Dunley and Monaghan. All have experience that we can shuffle. 5 players into the 4 positions (Orford and Stewart obviously). We also have Willow who has slotted in very well into Hooker and 5/8 previously. (and that is actually my preferred options for the starting 5/8 for the first 20-30 minutes) So 6 options all with experience into the 4 key areas. To be honest our weakness is fullback if Stewart gets injured.

Where we have options to bring in experienced options, at some point you have bring in a rookie somewhere if injury occurs. And that is where I thnk you lack the depth. Wallace does not fit into this category yet. He is inexperienced... Added to that, Gower is unhappy, Preston and Lang are leaving and I think Wesser's form last season was terrible. I can't argue on Priddis as I think he is probably the most under-rated player in the competition. I'd pick him ahead of any other rack in the game.

To be honest I think you are in for a long season this year. With a couple of injuries I believe you could even come close to Canberra for the spoon. But that's my opinion and I actually hope you don't. I kind of don't mind Penrith in some ways.

The main thing I objected to in the article was the comments on a coach that I felt implied he was ****.
 

Big Mick

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I never meant to imply Hasler was "sh!t"...just that he isn't as good yet as other coaches due to his inexperience.
 

Sea_Eagles_Rock

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Big Mick © said:
I never meant to imply Hasler was "sh!t"...just that he isn't as good yet as other coaches due to his inexperience.

Yeah I realise that now after reading what you have already posted.
 

willvillain

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effnic said:
Hicks is an alright option for fullback if stewart gets injured

He doesn't have the positional play for a fullback.

I'd only be happy with Hicks playing fullback if it was a stop-gap replacement while Stewart was injured or something.

I really rate Hicks as a winger, I think he is a strong centre, but as a fullback I don't think he has got it. Mind you, nor does Lennon. Let's just all hope that Brett manages to stay injury free.
 

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Harold Bishop said:
Fair report but i rate Hicks in the top 10 wingers in the game.

burt, grothe, lewis, rooney, Matt Geyer , Jake Webster ,Darren Albert, Pat richards ,Hazem El Masri, Matt Utai.. thats just a few teams wingers who are better then hicks...

He will follow donald in a couple of years to england...
 

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Y2Eel said:
burt, grothe, lewis, rooney, Matt Geyer , Jake Webster ,Darren Albert, Pat richards ,Hazem El Masri, Matt Utai.. thats just a few teams wingers who are better then hicks...

He will follow donald in a couple of years to england...

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Parra Scum :arrow:
 

Sea_Eagles_Rock

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effnic said:
Hicks is an alright option for fullback if stewart gets injured

In a word... 'NO!!!'

I honestly do not know what happens if Stewart gets injured. I just hope Dessie does.
 

effnic

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Sea_Eagles_Rock said:
In a word... 'NO!!!'

I honestly do not know what happens if Stewart gets injured. I just hope Dessie does.
do you watch many manly games? Obviously not. Hicks is the 2nd option fullback he always has been. Dessie did it last year when Brett got injured in the sharks game.
 

effnic

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Y2Eel said:
burt, grothe, lewis, rooney, Matt Geyer , Jake Webster ,Darren Albert, Pat richards ,Hazem El Masri, Matt Utai.. thats just a few teams wingers who are better then hicks...

He will follow donald in a couple of years to england...
Hicks can out run all of them. Did you say Burt :lol:
 

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