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Mariners to Geelong?

Big Sam

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Central Coast Mariners future could be in jeopardy if a restructure of ownership fails

By Ray Gatt The Australian March 19, 2013 8:45AM

The future of Central Coast Mariners, one of the most successful clubs in the A-League, could be in jeopardy if a restructure of its ownership fails.
Football Federation Australia has confirmed that discussions are under way for one of the club's investors to take a controlling interest in the embattled Mariners and take on their considerable debts, although fears emerged yesterday that the move might have come too late.
English businessman Michael Charlesworth is understood to have been negotiating for several weeks with FFA and the Mariners' major stakeholder and chairman, Peter Turnbull, to take the reins of the club, which has had mounting financial problems for the past three or four seasons.
The situation came to a head after players and staff had not been paid last week and were told they would get their wages either on Tuesday or Wednesday. As of 5pm, no money had been deposited into their accounts.
That follows news the club was told last week that its back-of-shirt sponsor, Primo Smallgoods, would not renew its $250,000-a-season, three-year contract next season. The Australian foreshadowed that move in January.
It also has been revealed the Mariners made an application to FFA recently for a special assistance financial package but were knocked back.
While a club insider denied its future was in doubt, different sources claimed the situation was "dire" and "the worst it has ever been".
Turnbull, a property investor who has poured $6 million into the club, has been searching for a buyer for several years.
While Charlesworth is seen as the Mariners' likely saviour, it is understood a Melbourne consortium has been looking at the club with a view to relocating to Geelong.
A businessman who shares his time between his eastern suburbs home in Sydney and England, Charlesworth owns Mediatel, a global mobile phone number company.
He has been with the Mariners for the past two years and, like Turnbull, has been know to pay many bills out of his own pocket. But as much as he has a passion and desire to get the club out of its financial mess, The Australian understands he may be wavering.
FFA meanwhile will be eager to ensure the survival of the Mariners as it can't afford to lose another club following the demise of North Queensland Fury (2010-11) and Gold Coast United (last season). Losing the Mariners would reduce the competition to nine teams and also adversely affect the $160m, four-year television deal FFA signed last November.
However, FFA is unlikely to rescue the club should it go under, as it is already heavily committed to funding the Wanderers, which it owns.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/footbal...ils/story-e6frf4gl-1226600335928#.UUj9WxxgdqV

Geelong has emerged as the potential saviour of the A-League's Central Coast, with a consortium considering a takeover and relocation of the struggling Mariners.

Geelong City Council has supported the bid, with Geelong's credentials to host its own national team due to be discussed tonight.

A redeveloped stadium, major investment in infrastructure and growing support in the area have been cited by supporters of a Geelong club.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/f...h-for-oman-clash/story-e6frfg8x-1226601040999
 

Twizzle

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not alot of difference in size between CC and Geelong

the money and support come from the community and Melbourne already have 2 teams

Geelong have league and union teams but they are played in cow paddocks so they would need a purpose built stadium on the positive side they have a very large ethnic community that goes back to the days when the industry in Geelong, mainly the Ford assembly plant where alot if immigrants worked, who will no doubt support football in the area

interresting
 

Misanthrope

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As much as I like to poke fun at the Mariners for their poor crowds, it'd be a shame to see them go. I'm not sure why the Central Coast can't provide better support for the one professional sporting team they have - especially given it has been consistently competitive (if not a little dour to watch).

I'm not sure Geelong is the answer the A-League needs. I'd much prefer it if Canberra or Wollongong could step in.
 

Timmah

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skeepe, no doubt.

Mariners confirmed today they won't be moving anywhere.

Ray Gatt from The Oz then confirmed that the management structure has changed, Charlesworth now main owner.
 

Misanthrope

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Ray Gatt from The Oz then confirmed that the management structure has changed, Charlesworth now main owner.

It's a pity the Mariners haven't got some real buying power behind them. I know it goes against their culture, but I think it's an area that would benefit from having a recognizable/marketable face to engage what seems to be a pretty fickle fan base.
 

Big Sam

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Can some CCM fan enlighten me as to why the club is in this position?

I'm just curious as to how a club like Heart can break even for 3 seasons straight with far worse crowds than CCM, but CCM keeps finding itself in a financially parlous position.

Heart's main reason for breaking even was the selling off of guys like Good and Babalj but it's not like CCM didn't greatly benefit financially from transfers with Amini and Rogic.

Is the rent at Bluetongue too high? Or is the sponsorship money insufficient?
 

Misanthrope

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Can some CCM fan enlighten me as to why the club is in this position?

I'm just curious as to how a club like Heart can break even for 3 seasons straight with far worse crowds than CCM, but CCM keeps finding itself in a financially parlous position.

Heart's main reason for breaking even was the selling off of guys like Good and Babalj but it's not like CCM didn't greatly benefit financially from transfers with Amini and Rogic.

Is the rent at Bluetongue too high? Or is the sponsorship money insufficient?

Help us out, Timmah!
 

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