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Mike Tyson vs Reggie Gross

OVP

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Please note ... this is was when Mike Tyson just turned 19 (<-- think about THAT !! for a start) It was still a while before he became World Champion. This is also AFTER Cus Dmato died as well.

WATCH THIS FOOTAGE ... Has anyone ever seen a better Defence, ever ? And then SMASH !!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4Z9FIwT7BE

p.s. humour me ... a mate gave me a copy of KILLER Instinct, The Mike Tyson Story ... WOW !! I used to worship Iron Mike, but the footage BEFORE he became a World Champ is even more impressive imo :) He was just a kid.
 

Pensacola Q.C

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OVP said:
Please note ... this is was when Mike Tyson just turned 19 (<-- think about THAT !! for a start) It was still a while before he became World Champion. This is also AFTER Cus Dmato died as well.

WATCH THIS FOOTAGE ... Has anyone ever seen a better Defence, ever ? And then SMASH !!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4Z9FIwT7BE

p.s. humour me ... a mate gave me a copy of KILLER Instinct, The Mike Tyson Story ... WOW !! I used to worship Iron Mike, but the footage BEFORE he became a World Champ is even more impressive imo :) He was just a kid.
Thing of beauty! Young Mike was the most physically talented boxer of all time IMO.
 

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My family has a boxing pedigree and I have been around the ring as often as the football field since as young I can remember ...

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________________This is the Mike Tyson I will remember ...

Mike Tyson pre-world champion was the most intimidating, destructive force that has ever been in the heavyweight ranks bar none.

Over the years I have managed to get all but a handful of Tyson's fights on DVD (a lot of searching mind you with overseas fans helping out) and watching this clip again is mesmorising. This is a kid we are watching dismantle grown men.

One only wonders "what could have been?" if Cus hadn't passed away so early in Mike's career. We would today I believe be looking at the greatest heavyweight of all-time and not the tragic freak show circus that his life has become.

I wouldn't say he would still be undefeated, he likely would not have been, though I think Lewis still would have been a match for Tyson at his best given the height and reach advantage. His record would have been amongst the best of all-time.

It is a tragedy to see this once great fighter lose to guys who don't belong in the ring with him. Danny Williams, Kevin McBride - uggh ... these guys can tell there grandkids they beat the beast that was Mike Tyson :sick:

Will we see another like him? I don't think so.
 

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its sad when you see that video to think of what he once was and what he has become now, if only someone responsible could have guided him through his prime years . If that were the case we would nowdays be talking about in the same breath as guys like Ali, Dempsey and Louis
 

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El Diablo said:
James Tillis certainly gave him a few probs

This is the only clip i could find on that fight El D. A remarkable resemblence to the Reggie Gross fight at the end too. But look how LOW Tyson got to evade Tillis' punches ... wow. Ive never ever seen a boxer go down almost on his knees to avoid punches, but Mike did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl6TiOvDf00
 

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OVP said:
This is the only clip i could find on that fight El D. A remarkable resemblence to the Reggie Gross fight at the end too. But look how LOW Tyson got to evade Tillis' punches ... wow. Ive never ever seen a boxer go down almost on his knees to avoid punches, but Mike did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl6TiOvDf00

it was a lot closer than the scorecards

Tillis said Tyson told him he thought he'd won
 

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El Diablo said:
it was a lot closer than the scorecards

Tillis said Tyson told him he thought he'd won

Id give my left nut to see that whole fight .... i find that hard to believe, but im not doubting YOU ... its just Tillis wasnt really that good.
 

God-King Dean

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:roll: Did anyone say they admired his personal life ?

It's impossible not to admire his brute strength, speed, timing & co-ordination. IMO in his prime he would have beaten Ali (but that's a debate for another time :D).

Tyson needed more than boxing to get his life together as a kid, he needed a pschologist.
 

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Immortal said:
:roll: Did anyone say they admired his personal life ?

It's impossible not to admire his brute strength, speed, timing & co-ordination. IMO in his prime he would have beaten Ali (but that's a debate for another time :D).

Tyson needed more than boxing to get his life together as a kid, he needed a pschologist.

Generally speaking rapists don't get any credit for anything from anyone. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but clearly Tyson gets favourable treatment and his fans aren't really capable of coming to terms with the fact that he is a sexual deviant and violent criminal.
 

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Thierry Henry said:
Generally speaking rapists don't get any credit for anything from anyone. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but clearly Tyson gets favourable treatment and his fans aren't really capable of coming to terms with the fact that he is a sexual deviant and violent criminal.

Yeah, I'll agree he does often get a favourable view.

But just cuz he was a rapist I ain't gonna deny his awesome capabilities.
 

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the most impresive knock-out ive seen live was David Tua knocking out John Ruiz in 19 seconds...

how i wanted to see Tyson V Tua afew years ago... NZ biast aside i would have picked Tua to win. only on the simple fact that Tua had the power and the chin. Iron Mike really only has the power. he doesnt even have the reach nor is a strong enough pugilist to hold Tua off for 12 rounds.

all speculation ofcourse... but would be interested to see would have thought about a mtach up between those 2.

on tyson...even a young Tyson wasnt as good as everyone in here is making out.. there has always been a question mark over his chin and certainly his heart. the 3 fighters of note he lost to(Douglas, Holyfield & Lewis) all employed a similar tactic of bullying him around the ring and using there size to smother him. for a guy to lose 4 fights in a similar way shows a one-dimensional boxer. the same as Tua. even when he was young he was a one-dimensional fighter and how you could class him as a potential all-time great is beyond me.

he was entertaining for sure.. his knockout reals are so brutal i think its restricted. but was he as good as eveyones making out?? im not so sure...
 

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El Diablo said:

Thanx heaps El D ... just watched the Tillis fight ... very lazy performance by Tyson, but one of the commentators were saying that there were doubts he could go the distance and it seemed to me he didnt really want to knock him out to test the theory for himself. There were no followups to his big punches (which is most un-Tyson like) ... he'd always go for the kill when he snuck a big one through. But none in this fight, he'd put a big one in, and just back off. I think 6 rounds to 4 was a pretty fair indication of the fight actually (by two of the judges) ... but 8 rounds to 2 was ridiculous. Sack that judge !! :lol:

I actually think Tyson looked far more troubled in the second fight against Donovan Razor Ruddock. Ruddock's big punches seemed to hurt him. Probably the only one to do that before Douglas.

p.s. Thierry Henry ... god you are such a Wuss :lol:.
 

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OVP said:
Thanx heaps El D ... just watched the Tillis fight ... very lazy performance by Tyson, but one of the commentators were saying that there were doubts he could go the distance and it seemed to me he didnt really want to knock him out to test the theory for himself. There were no followups to his big punches (which is most un-Tyson like) ... he'd always go for the kill when he snuck a big one through. But none in this fight, he'd put a big one in, and just back off. I think 6 rounds to 4 was a pretty fair indication of the fight actually (by two of the judges) ... but 8 rounds to 2 was ridiculous. Sack that judge !! :lol:

I actually think Tyson looked far more troubled in the second fight against Donovan Razor Ruddock. Ruddock's big punches seemed to hurt him. Probably the only one to do that before Douglas.

p.s. Thierry Henry ... god you are such a Wuss :lol:.

he gave Ruddock a flogging in the 2nd fight. he got his jaw broke.

Ruddock was never that good. he just had "the smash"
 

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Tyson was a toe-to-toe bully with fantastic lateral movement. I think he got found out in the Buster Douglas fight, honestly. Once he fought a guy who could take his punches and not fall, he was toast.
 

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