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Mitchell Pearce - Contract Situation

Yosh

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Still blown away people are against getting Brooks, if (big if) we aren’t paying full freight.

is a good player in a terrible team.

Very obviously needs a fresh start.

He would be an upgrade on Pearce for us.

Moot point as the tigers won’t let him go.

I think most of us can see there is a player in there somewhere but some problematic points would be:

- His crazy salary
- Has never taken his team to a finals series
- Comes from a toxic club

Are we strong enough as a club to take that all onboard and succeed?
 

Mr_Knightside

Juniors
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None of this fills me with confidence. Whilst Pearce hasn't set the world on fire over the last couple of years the halves market is pretty bare as it is and I'm not convinced that Luke Brooks would take us any closer to the summit than we currently are. That's if it was possible to get a deal done anyway, as it doesn't seem like the Tigers are keen to let him go.

All that being said Brooks does need a change as his form at the Tigers has been indifferent for a while now but he has showed at times that he's got a fairly high ceiling yet consistency has always been his issue. Also playing in a better team behind a better forward pack would no doubt help but I definitely don't want the club paying anywhere near full freight for him. In theory, if a deal were to be done it wouldn't be too bad paying around $500K for him and having the Tigers chip in the rest for a couple of years then re-negotiating from there. All of this is in theory though as the Tigers apparently want to keep him.
 

Mr_Knightside

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These are some names that I think we could realistically get, whether you'd like them or not is another thing..

Ash Taylor
Chanel Harris-Tavita
Kyle Flanagan
Lachlan Lewis
Dylan Walker
Corey Norman
Cade Cust
Sam Williams
Matt Frawley

Pick of that bunch is probably the top 2. There's some there that are probably too similar to Clifford. Flanagan had a terrible season and I'm not sure what issues he has but I still feel he's a potentially solid First Grader.

Here's my take on that lot.

Ash Taylor - Has the highest ceiling of any of these names and would be worth it on a short term/low money deal but looks like the Warriors will have him for 2022.

Chanel Harris-Tavita - Has plenty of upside and can defend well, I'd be open to signing him but not paying big money

Kyle Flanagan - Has gone from being a future star to being on the scrap heap. He can definitely play but there seems to be something not quite right given how things went at the Roosters & Bulldogs. I'm also not sure if I would want his father being involved with the club. I would pass on Kyle for now.

Lachlan Lewis - Not sure what this guy's ceiling is. Has looked decent at times playing in a bad team over the last few years and could do well with a fresh start elsewhere. I wouldn't mind getting him for a bargain price for a year or two to see what we could do with him. We could do worse.

Dylan Walker - No, he's a grade A d*ckhead and not even that good a player

Corey Norman - See above

Cade Cust - I don't know much about him but I seem to remember that he plays with a fair bit of energy but I feel that there are better options on this list

Sam Williams - He's experienced and is a good organizer which we certainly have lacked over the years but has never really nailed down a first grade spot despite being around for a long time. I can't help but feel that we've already got a similar player in Clune anyway so would probably prefer to give him a go, but Sam Williams wouldn't be the worst signing.

Matt Frawley - He's a backup at best and I think Clune will do the same thing but better so probably wouldn't go there.

Ultimately there are a few guys on this list who I would be ok with getting on a short term/low value deal but none of them are a marquee half and we may have to rely on a few different guys at 7 over the next year or two until we even sign the right player or someone emerges from our current system.
 
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Still blown away people are against getting Brooks, if (big if) we aren’t paying full freight.

is a good player in a terrible team.

Very obviously needs a fresh start.

He would be an upgrade on Pearce for us.

Moot point as the tigers won’t let him go.
Youre on drugs mate
 

Old dog

Juniors
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1 Ponga, Hodgson, Toa, 6 Clifford, Ponga, Crosslands, 7 Clifford, Clune, Crosslands. Others to consider are Baker, Sasagi, Hoy & Mann so if no Pearce we have plenty of cover that is maybe lacking in some areas but we could get by until someone comes on the scene realistically it’s Ponga, Clifford & Clune for 2022
 

Jono078

Coach
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Are we all forgetting we have a ready made super talent with lots of experience at #6?

How can you all miss what’s so obvious…

1 Ponga
6 Mann
7 Clifford

It’s obvious it was Pearce holding Mann back all these years. Now it’s time to unleash him on the NRL.

#IKnowAOB
 

Loose Cannon

Juniors
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Are we all forgetting we have a ready made super talent with lots of experience at #6?

How can you all miss what’s so obvious…

1 Ponga
6 Mann
7 Clifford

It’s obvious it was Pearce holding Mann back all these years. Now it’s time to unleash him on the NRL.

#IKnowAOB
I dunno.

AOB would be tempted to go;

1 Mann
6 Mann
7 Mann

14 Mann.
 

Silent Knight

First Grade
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I dunno.

AOB would be tempted to go;

1 Mann
6 Mann
7 Mann

14 Mann.

This would actually work when you consider that Spazwing either drops the ball, throws a hospital pass or just takes the tackle when we have an overlap usually at the very first opportunity.

Who needs a separate fullback, 5/8, halfback or supersub when Spazwing will deliver what the coach expects (turnover of the ball) first time every time.

In saying that though, Mex Soy at fullback in combination with Spazwing is a mouth watering prospect. One will flap his arms like a chicken when running the ball, while the other will play the great disappearing act and not contest high balls. This circus act will bedazzle the opposition.
 

Jono078

Coach
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I don't want to bash into AOB, I really don't, and I do want him to be a success BUT this really irks me:

“All I can say is I nor anyone at the club have heard from Mitchell or his management,” O’Brien said.

“He is currently scheduled to start training on the 24th of November and until I’m told otherwise, I have started planning for 2022 with Mitch as our halfback.”
“I will cross that bridge when I come to it but I only live two streets away from him and I haven’t heard anything,” he added.

“Honest to God, I am not lying... I have not heard a single sentence.

“So I will just crack on and cross that bridge when I come to it.”

Let's assume AOB is telling the truth and he's heard nothing from Mitch... It's not very pro-active of him to address the rumors ASAP with Mitch and start planning accordingly.

Like I've just had a vision of his round 1 post-game conference where he says yeah the Pearce thing was a real distraction and we weren't prepared well enough..

I feel I'm over-reacting but it just irks me the lack of a pro-active response.
 

Jono078

Coach
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News flowing thick and fast now..

We want a transfer fee for Pearce. Understandable and perhaps the best way to go about it.


Gotta lol though.. Knights want transfer fee meanwhile AOB "I haven't heard a thing. I'm not lying".

EDIT: Hoops bringing up AOB's contract with the Roosters was also trash journalism, not that I expected any better from him.
 

Old dog

Juniors
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All messy, nothing confirmed or denied but plenty on in media and here. If I was Obi I would want some clarity asap so I would have rang/visited Pearce and asked him for the truth and I would also have told Pearce that no matter which way it is that he could have rang Obi and clarified things even if just in confidence.
Both Obi and Pearce have handled this badly and if there is nothing to it then a joint statement was in order for the sake of club and fans
 

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