New 6 again rule proposal

[The Great Dane]

The 6 again is fine , it has a role in the game. The game isn't the stop start wrestle infested dog it was a few years ago & the record TV ratings prove fans are watching & enjoying the product.

The 6 again has done little to nothing to fix wrestling in the ruck, in fact if anything it's increased wrestling in the red zone, but for sake of argument lets say that it has.

Is that one benefit worth it when the 6 again rule is totally impossible to enforce consistently, is easily manipulated by the contestants, and more often than not it's impossible for spectators (especially in the stadium) to know what the infringement was given for?

Those factors alone suggest that it's a moronically stupid idea, but on top of that it'd be sooo easy for a ref to rig a game with the 6 again rule that it isn't funny. Not that I'm making any accusations, but if a ref was smart and wanted to make some quick cash they could f**k teams on an almost weekly basis without anybody suspecting a thing.

Ratings being up isn't necessarily a result of the 6 again rule either. You'd need some pretty heavy research into the subject to figure out why that is, and it's almost certainly not a single factor that's lead to that growth either, but my money would be on a hangover from people having more time to invest in their interests in recent years because of covid laws playing a huge role in that growth.

 

[mave]

Oh goodie, another rule change.....to fix issues created by the last rule change.

Hopefully they can introduce it mid-season, and with zero notice to any clubs, coaches, refs and players.....just like the last rule change.

 

[Llangennech]

The 6 again has done little to nothing to fix wrestling in the ruck, in fact if anything it's increased wrestling in the red zone, but for sake of argument lets say that it has.

Is that one benefit worth it when the 6 again rule is totally impossible to enforce consistently, is easily manipulated by the contestants, and more often than not it's impossible for spectators (especially in the stadium) to know what the infringement was given for?

Those factors alone suggest that it's a moronically stupid idea, but on top of that it'd be sooo easy for a ref to rig a game with the 6 again rule that it isn't funny. Not that I'm making any accusations, but if a ref was smart and wanted to make some quick cash they could f**k teams on an almost weekly basis without anybody suspecting a thing.

Ratings being up isn't necessarily a result of the 6 again rule either. You'd need some pretty heavy research into the subject to figure out why that is, and it's almost certainly not a single factor that's lead to that growth either, but my money would be on a hangover from people having more time to invest in their interests in recent years because of covid laws playing a huge role in that growth.

Tim Vickery was talking about crowds going up after WWII, he said he expects a growth in attendances for soccer clubs after Covid. I'm not sure if TV figures and attendances have gone up for soccer.

 

[Valheru]

Just get rid of the shit rule, while we are at it let's get rid of 7 tackle sets as well.

While we are on a roll, let's stop over officiating the players when the opposition is bringing the ball out of their own end. It is actually possible to peg a team on their own goal line without being offside.

 

[dogslife]

Topball would have already implemented this rule

 

[Munky]

Topball would have already implemented this rule

Topball would be down to eleven players, four tackles to make ten metres before a restart and allowing forward passes by now.

Potentially helmets too.

 

[Perth Red]

Topball would be down to eleven players, four tackles to make ten metres before a restart and allowing forward passes by now.

Potentially helmets too.

Give Vlandys time!

 

[hrundi99]

How about last 5 minutes of the game it's auto penalty in place of 6 again ruling?

 

[baselinepanther]

The 6 again has done little to nothing to fix wrestling in the ruck, in fact if anything it's increased wrestling in the red zone, but for sake of argument lets say that it has.

Is that one benefit worth it when the 6 again rule is totally impossible to enforce consistently, is easily manipulated by the contestants, and more often than not it's impossible for spectators (especially in the stadium) to know what the infringement was given for?

Those factors alone suggest that it's a moronically stupid idea, but on top of that it'd be sooo easy for a ref to rig a game with the 6 again rule that it isn't funny. Not that I'm making any accusations, but if a ref was smart and wanted to make some quick cash they could f**k teams on an almost weekly basis without anybody suspecting a thing.

Ratings being up isn't necessarily a result of the 6 again rule either. You'd need some pretty heavy research into the subject to figure out why that is, and it's almost certainly not a single factor that's lead to that growth either, but my money would be on a hangover from people having more time to invest in their interests in recent years because of covid laws playing a huge role in that growth.

its no more or less able to be policed consistently then old ruck infringement or 10 metre rule so thats the first bit of rubbish in your post out of the way
Your point about refs on the take is beyond ridiculous

The set restart rule was designed to keep the ball in play longer , creating fatigue in general play .. reducing wrestle , making a better spectacle overall. All things we should be encouraging.
I think to achieve the above this rule is the best way to achieve that end goal. You say theres more wrestle with this rule , I'd say your eyes are ornaments then because they clearly don't work. As for this new rule creating a better spectacle that has contributed to more fans at games & viewers on TV , theres nothing saying this is true , or false either. But it aint a coincidence either. Your view of covid being a factor is not backed up by anything with most other sports experiencing a major drop in eyeballs with the NRL bucking the trend.

So , again
the rule is fine , its referees not doing their job that is the issue here.

 

[GongPanther]

For the whole game, make it a 12 again tackle rule. You watch the teams buck up their ideas with the players disciple doing a complete 360.

 

[baselinepanther]

How about last 5 minutes of the game it's auto penalty in place of 6 again ruling?

referees have the arbitrary discretion to plonk a full penalty in when its required

The fact Gough didn't when it was absolutely required was a failing on his part , not the rules.

 

[PARRA_FAN]

Just get rid of the shit rule, while we are at it let's get rid of 7 tackle sets as well.

While we are on a roll, let's stop over officiating the players when the opposition is bringing the ball out of their own end. It is actually possible to peg a team on their own goal line without being offside.

That is a rule they really stuffed up. It was supposed to stop negative play, kickers purposely putting it dead from outside the 20m to take the fullback out of play, I thought it was only originally kicks from outside the 20m but some idiot decided to make it for everything like dropping the ball over the in goal. Why should you be punished an extra tackle for almost scoring? Pathetic.

I like the 6 again rule because it stopped the piggy back, constant stoppages from penalties prior to 2020, the game was slower.

Now the players have found ways of exploiting it and coaches are whinging about the 6 again calls.

I wish the referees would penalise the players for purposely being off side at the scrum because Ive seen so many this year, its absolutely ridiculous.

 

[Fangs]

I think the product today is superior to pre-6 again. Though I don't understand why this isn't a penalty and sin bin. We don't need re-invention here.

 

[10$ Ferret]

The 6 again rule in theory is not such a bad idea.
Unfortunately the main thing it has done is highlight all that is wrong with the game, inconsistency.

the game is ruined by inconsistency. The rose coloured glasses have been on the eyes of RL fans for a long time and for many, consistency means that their team gets treated more fairly than others.
But roger me, the quality of the refereeing, game management and juduciary is amateurish at best and the 6 again rule has really just grossly highlighted this

 

[Valheru]

That is a rule they really stuffed up. It was supposed to stop negative play, kickers purposely putting it dead from outside the 20m to take the fullback out of play, I thought it was only originally kicks from outside the 20m but some idiot decided to make it for everything like dropping the ball over the in goal. Why should you be punished an extra tackle for almost scoring? Pathetic.

Agree 100%

It's way to big a penalty in most instances.

Best solution IMO is go back to 6 tackles but you get the ball from where the opposition kicked it with the minimum starting point the 20m line. That punishes negative kicks whilst not over punishing grubbers that trickle dead, knock ons etc.

 

[baselinepanther]

The 6 again rule in theory is not such a bad idea.
Unfortunately the main thing it has done is highlight all that is wrong with the game, inconsistency.

the game is ruined by inconsistency. The rose coloured glasses have been on the eyes of RL fans for a long time and for many, consistency means that their team gets treated more fairly than others.
But roger me, the quality of the refereeing, game management and juduciary is amateurish at best and the 6 again rule has really just grossly highlighted this

there isn't a sport on the planet that doesn't have issues with inconsistency ..... not one

 

[10$ Ferret]

there isn't a sport on the planet that doesn't have issues with inconsistency ..... not one

Big difference between "having an issue with" and "setting an international gold standard
"

 

[Llangennech]

How about last 5 minutes of the game it's auto penalty in place of 6 again ruling?

I think what B Hunt did is covered in the laws, all the ref needed to do was say, look penalty, and Ben you're in the bin, what you just did is against the spirit of the game. The Raiders would have had the opportunity to kick a penalty and have a man advantage going into golden point extra-time.

 

[Glen]

The refs love the 6 again because play moves on quickly and they can’t be judged for their inconsistent and terrible application of the rules

 

[Billythekid]

As for this new rule creating a better spectacle that has contributed to more fans at games & viewers on TV , theres nothing saying this is true , or false either. But it aint a coincidence either.

Gonna be honest this is a pretty moronic take. Sure you can't prove it's right or wrong which is exactly why you can't claim it as proof for your argument. It's the whole causation vs correlation situation. Is it possible that the 6 again rule has helped the popularity of the game? I mean sure it's possible but there is absolutely no proof for it and making that game in defense of the rule makes no sense.

Personally I think it's much more likely that Kayo is the real reason for our ratings going up. NRL fans finally have an option besides ch9 that doesn't involve paying a second mortgage for fox

there isn't a sport on the planet that doesn't have issues with inconsistency ..... not one

This isn't really true IMO. Sports like golf don't really have this issue and plenty of other sports that do it's a minor issue at most (like tennis or soccer). With NRL the officiating is a constant looming force over the game and has a huge impact on the flow of every game of league. Growing up playing league and union you got to know the refs and how they impacted the game and it absolutely changed how you had to play. I absolutely did not find this the case in any other sport I played.

Now I agree there are other sports where this is a HUGE issue especially with like basketball for example but it's far from a universal problem with sport.