New 6 again rule proposal

[baselinepanther]

Gonna be honest this is a pretty moronic take. Sure you can't prove it's right or wrong which is exactly why you can't claim it as proof for your argument. It's the whole causation vs correlation situation. Is it possible that the 6 again rule has helped the popularity of the game? I mean sure it's possible but there is absolutely no proof for it and making that game in defense of the rule makes no sense.

Personally I think it's much more likely that Kayo is the real reason for our ratings going up. NRL fans finally have an option besides ch9 that doesn't involve paying a second mortgage for fox

This isn't really true IMO. Sports like golf don't really have this issue and plenty of other sports that do it's a minor issue at most (like tennis or soccer). With NRL the officiating is a constant looming force over the game and has a huge impact on the flow of every game of league. Growing up playing league and union you got to know the refs and how they impacted the game and it absolutely changed how you had to play. I absolutely did not find this the case in any other sport I played.

Now I agree there are other sports where this is a HUGE issue especially with like basketball for example but it's far from a universal problem with sport.

hahaha
speaking of moronic ... They had kayo 3 years ago too & big uptake & the ratings weren't as big or anywhere near as big so they're not existing viewers , they're new. And it
wouldn't matter if they had kayo or anything else for that matter if the product wasn't worth watching They wouldn't watch ... Its better IMO because of the wrestle being lessened as a result of the fatigue due to the set restart rule. Anyone saying its anything else is stating their opinion as well. But their reasons ( like yours ) are no more convincing.

Golf ?
Tennis ??

You're an idiot & that is the proof

 

[baselinepanther]

Big difference between "having an issue with" and "setting an international gold standard
"

Nah not really , Its bleating clowns like you who thinks its far worse in RL then every other sport on the planet which is an absurd statement

But it isn't.

 

[Billythekid]

hahaha
speaking of moronic ... They had kayo 3 years ago too & big uptake & the ratings weren't as big or anywhere near as big so they're not existing viewers , they're new. And it
wouldn't matter if they had kayo or anything else for that matter if the product wasn't worth watching They wouldn't watch ... Its better IMO because of the wrestle being lessened as a result of the fatigue due to the set restart rule. Anyone saying its anything else is stating their opinion as well. But their reasons ( like yours ) are no more convincing.

Golf ?
Tennis ??

You're an idiot & that is the proof

Just because ratings didn't immediately sky rocket doesn't mean kayo isn't a huge part of the reason for the boost. It takes a while for things to take off and it's clear that covid helped push people towards services like kayo.

Regardless you're totally missing the point and i'm not sure if you're doing it deliberately. I'm not saying for sure what is the reason for ratings going up. The point is you can't be sure what the reason is so using the ratings going up as proof that the 6 again rule has been a positive is bullshit. As I said it's literally mistaking correlation for causation.

You're going to have to explain your logic at the end of your post. You said that all sports have the same problem with inconsistent officiating and I was pointing out examples where that isn't the case. Shit I would argue that the vast majority of sports don't have that as a problem or certainly not as big of a problem as the NRL does. Tennis and golf were just a couple of examples but there is plenty more.

 

[Perth Red]

hahaha
speaking of moronic ... They had kayo 3 years ago too & big uptake & the ratings weren't as big or anywhere near as big so they're not existing viewers , they're new. And it
wouldn't matter if they had kayo or anything else for that matter if the product wasn't worth watching They wouldn't watch ... Its better IMO because of the wrestle being lessened as a result of the fatigue due to the set restart rule. Anyone saying its anything else is stating their opinion as well. But their reasons ( like yours ) are no more convincing.

Golf ?
Tennis ??

You're an idiot & that is the proof

What we have only just had though is people switching from Telstra app to Kayo for dirt cheap. Telstra app viewers where never counted in audiences and now Kayo is. Thats a significant boost of existing audience right there. Just look at how quickly the Kayo subscribers have grown in last 12 months, a lot of that is people moving from Telstra.

 

[baselinepanther]

What we have only just had though is people switching from Telstra app to Kayo for dirt cheap. Telstra app viewers where never counted in audiences and now Kayo is. Thats a significant boost of existing audience right there. Just look at how quickly the Kayo subscribers have grown in last 12 months, a lot of that is people moving from Telstra.

I don't think its that many .. some .. but mainly its the same subsrcibers moving from existing platforms to kayo.
or new ones signing up

fans are loving the NRL in 2022 & its got a lot to do with the new sleaker spectacle
nothing surer ...

 

[baselinepanther]

Just because ratings didn't immediately sky rocket doesn't mean kayo isn't a huge part of the reason for the boost. It takes a while for things to take off and it's clear that covid helped push people towards services like kayo.

Regardless you're totally missing the point and i'm not sure if you're doing it deliberately. I'm not saying for sure what is the reason for ratings going up. The point is you can't be sure what the reason is so using the ratings going up as proof that the 6 again rule has been a positive is bullshit. As I said it's literally mistaking correlation for causation.

You're going to have to explain your logic at the end of your post. You said that all sports have the same problem with inconsistent officiating and I was pointing out examples where that isn't the case. Shit I would argue that the vast majority of sports don't have that as a problem or certainly not as big of a problem as the NRL does. Tennis and golf were just a couple of examples but there is plenty more.

How can anyone be sure of anything on an opinion based forum
I said I believed the rule produced a better spectacle
I still do...
I think people are watching in bigger numbers because of the better spectacle
I still do...

I think RL has no more issues with the consistent application of its rules then any other sport
I still do ...

 

[Billythekid]

How can anyone be sure of anything on an opinion based forum
I said I believed the rule produced a better spectacle
I still do...
I think people are watching in bigger numbers because of the better spectacle
I still do...

I think RL has no more issues with the consistent application of its rules then any other sport
I still do ...

Obviously. You’ve made it pretty clear that listening to differing opinions or facts isn’t really your strong suit and it was my mistake for relying to you.

 

[baselinepanther]

Obviously. You’ve made it pretty clear that listening to differing opinions or facts isn’t really your strong suit and it was my mistake for relying to you.

post a... fact.... & lets see

& one clown suggested there was more wrestle with the 6 again rule

yea...
I'll pass on listening to that level of opinion thanks

 

[pennywisealfie]

Peter V'Laters more like it.

 

[blaza88z]

Just blow the damn penalty

 

[nick87]

I think what B Hunt did is covered in the laws, all the ref needed to do was say, look penalty, and Ben you're in the bin, what you just did is against the spirit of the game. The Raiders would have had the opportunity to kick a penalty and have a man advantage going into golden point extra-time.

YES! Yes.. For the love of god, yes.

We dont need a rule change. We need the officials to use common sense and use the tools available to them.
There is NOTHING... NOOOOOOOTHING in the rule book right now that means the end of that game should have played out that way. Ben Hunt committed a professional foul, had the official done his job, the game would have been stopped, a penalty from in front would have been awarded and Ben Hunt would have been sin binned.


We dont need new rules. We need officials to do and be better at their jobs.

 

[10$ Ferret]

Nah not really , Its bleating clowns like you who thinks its far worse in RL then every other sport on the planet which is an absurd statement

But it isn't.

When its your team that is getting the "good" end of the inconsistency stick then of course there is no inconsistency. You are going to need a bigger shovel soon.

 

[T-Boon]

The English SL is sometimes a a glorified form of touch footy, have you seen Jai Field churning up SL this year? Hahahahaha, Jai frikin FIELD, haha, deeree me. So just carrying on the play in England just suits it, it just carries on as normal.

A sport that rewards Jai Field like skills (speed, evasion, line breaks) is better than a sport that rewards Nathan Cleary skills (bombing)

 

[baselinepanther]

When its your team that is getting the "good" end of the inconsistency stick then of course there is no inconsistency. You are going to need a bigger shovel soon.

My team cops no more .. or less .. bad calls then anyone elses
you can let yourself out...

 

[fourplay]

The English SL is sometimes a a glorified form of touch footy, have you seen Jai Field churning up SL this year? Hahahahaha, Jai frikin FIELD, haha, deeree me. So just carrying on the play in England just suits it, it just carries on as normal.

Jai Field was one of the most naturally gifted attacking players to ever come through NYC and into the NRL. Anyone who payed attention to NYC saw how much ability he had.

 

[Chimp]

As always in our weird but wonderful sport, the answer sits in the simple application of the actual rules, rather than introducing bullshit stuff like ‘6 again’.
They brought that in to stop teams giving away penalties to slow the attack down - so rather than bringing in a new rule, why not just do the following 2 things, that sit under the long standing rules;
1 - Sin-bin any player clearly deliberately slowing the ptb to create a defensive advantage, or who is deliberately offside (every single scrum is now followed by a ‘6 again’ call as all teams are happy to re-set the count to enable their defensive structure to re-set) . It’s ridiculous and it’s a professional foul - get them in the bin, every single time, and see how quickly they adapt.
2 - Allow quick tap penalties. None of this BS about the ref having to be in position, just let them tap and go. If a defender attempts to block the quick tap or if an offside defender tackles them, bin them. That’ll create the desired game speed and provide a natural advantage to the team who’ve been disadvantaged by the slowed ptb/offside defender etc.

It’s always so simple. Just apply the rules as they were intended. The game was never broken.

 

[siv]

Agree 100%

It's way to big a penalty in most instances.

Best solution IMO is go back to 6 tackles but you get the ball from where the opposition kicked it with the minimum starting point the 20m line. That punishes negative kicks whilst not over punishing grubbers that trickle dead, knock ons etc.

While good in principal

You can have a huge spiral bomb that bounces 30m out and then bounces over the dead ball line due the energy put into the kick and shape of a RL ball

 

[siv]

What we have only just had though is people switching from Telstra app to Kayo for dirt cheap. Telstra app viewers where never counted in audiences and now Kayo is. Thats a significant boost of existing audience right there. Just look at how quickly the Kayo subscribers have grown in last 12 months, a lot of that is people moving from Telstra.

Or people getting NBN and getting rid of their Foxtel box

 

[Perth Red]

Talking of rule changes, in the St. Helens game this week a player wa red carded for lifting an injured player from the ground latrell style (noticed a souths player did it to ado Carr in seconds half this round as well) . In SL such a dog act is an instant send off. Should bring same in to nrl. a player has no idea if a player is injured or not when they try and make them stand up.

 

[Floodwaters]

Got to love the latest PVL proposed rule to fix the 6-again rule

Continue the 6-again set after fulltime

So what happens if we keep getting 6 agains

I actually like that idea, 6 again when a team is 2 down with 10 seconds left is silly