New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

[Wb1234]

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Yeh all this attention on nz shows nz2 is basically a lock

 

[Matua]

Nrl goal kicking was useless back then

Even if he missed some crucial conversions in elimination finals for norths

Yeah, Mel was considered a decent league kicker and he was a toe poker.

Winfield Cup teams were picking up any rugby player they could find in that period. Eion Crossan was another un-league guy who got a contract, he couldn't tackle. John Schuster had never kicked in rugby and became one of the best kickers in the comp.

 

[BuffaloRules]

Halligan was the least obvious convert ever from a playing style, had less flair than a buttoned up politician, but he speaks like a fully on (Aussie) bogan so from that respect he was a perfect convert.

You must hear what you want to hear mate… tortures his vowels with the best of your lot

Owns a nice property in Manly …doing well for a bogan

 

[Matua]

You must hear what you want to hear mate… tortures his vowels with the best of your lot

Owns a nice property in Manly …doing well for a bogan

He's fully Aussie to our cultured Kiwi ears. Same with Gary Freeman, I heard him on something a couple of years back and I forgot he was a NZer for a while.

 

[BuffaloRules]

He's fully Aussie to our cultured Kiwi ears. Same with Gary Freeman, I heard him on something a couple of years back and I forgot he was a NZer for a while.

Not to mine … pronounces his vowels very funny …. No one over here is gunna mistake him for anything other than one of yours

 

[Wb1234]

Yeah, Mel was considered a decent league kicker and he was a toe poker.

Winfield Cup teams were picking up any rugby player they could find in that period. Eion Crossan was another un-league guy who got a contract, he couldn't tackle. John Schuster had never kicked in rugby and became one of the best kickers in the comp.

Halligan was ok as a winger even if he wasn’t flash

Ridegy was good even if he couldn’t make the all blacks what a player

 

[BuffaloRules]

Here is an interview with Halligan …I’ll let people make up their own minds…

To me his Kiwi accent is broader than the two kiwis interviewing him !

 

[Matua]

Halligan was ok as a winger even if he wasn’t flash

Ridegy was good even if he couldn’t make the all blacks what a player

Ridge was an AB, he just didn't play a test. If he'd waited a few months he would have been a test player but he didn't know that John Gallagher was also going to league. He found out in the lead up to his first match with Manly and looked gutted.

 

[Matiunz]

Here is an interview with Halligan …I’ll let people make up their own minds…

To me his Kiwi accent is broader than the two kiwis interviewing him !

To be fair it’s hard to hear an accent when he can barely put a coherent sentence together.
From my ear he’s a NZer that’s spent plenty of time in Aus. It’s one of those cases where Australians will hear NZ accent and NZers will hear the Australian parts

 

[Ian Douglas]

Ridge was an AB, he just didn't play a test. If he'd waited a few months he would have been a test player but he didn't know that John Gallagher was also going to league. He found out in the lead up to his first match with Manly and looked gutted.

Yeah, John kirwan hosted a little fly on the wall style documentary on ridge when he signed for manly and ridge was filmed on camera talking to a NZ journalist by phone who broke it to him that John Gallagher had just signed for Leeds rugby league club.

if memory serves Graham Lowe let it slip that he was close to signing zinzan Brooke as well.

 

[BuffaloRules]

To be fair it’s hard to hear an accent when he can barely put a coherent sentence together.
From my ear he’s a NZer that’s spent plenty of time in Aus. It’s one of those cases where Australians will hear NZ accent and NZers will hear the Australian parts

To each their own I guess … like I said his accent seems stronger to me than the other two talking …we all must hear differently …I don’t know how you could ever confuse him as Australian

 

[Matiunz]

Yeah, John kirwan hosted a little fly on the wall style documentary on ridge when he signed for manly and ridge was filmed on camera talking to a NZ journalist by phone who broke it to him that John Gallagher had just signed for Leeds rugby league club.

if memory serves Graham Lowe let it slip that he was close to signing zinzan Brooke as well.

They pretty much HAD signed Zinzan but he packed a shit and backed out after Ridge implied he’d be earning more. Apparently Ridge didn’t know Zinzan had backed out until he’d moved over to Sydney and Zinzan hadn’t moved into the apartment they were supposed to be sharing.

 

[Ian Douglas]

They pretty much HAD signed Zinzan but he packed a shit and backed out after Ridge implied he’d be earning more. Apparently Ridge didn’t know Zinzan had backed out until he’d moved over to Sydney and Zinzan hadn’t moved into the apartment they were supposed to be sharing.

So it was an ego thing?

wasn’t Brooke the captain of the all blacks at the time?

 

[Matiunz]

To each their own I guess … like I said his accent seems stronger to me than the other two talking …we all must hear differently …I don’t know how you could ever confuse him as Australian

NZers that live in Aus long enough tend to lengthen their ‘I’ and ‘A’ sounds which will sound Australian to a NZer but probably still sound blunt to an Australian.
The stereotypical ‘tell’ of sux/six/seeeks isn’t always as obvious- I always get caught out on ‘E’ much more- ask an NZer to say ‘Wet’ ‘dead’ and it’s much more obvious along with bare/bear/beer being the same word
Halligan has the 1/2 Aus ‘A’ and ‘I’ but the blatant kiwi ‘nu zilnd’ for example.

 

[Matiunz]

So it was an ego thing?

wasn’t Brooke the captain of the all blacks at the time?

Yeah I think so, there’s a podcast (think it might be the TAB sports cafe pod) where he talks about it. Zinzan was a senior player at Auckland at the same time Ridge was a junior, Ridge asked Zinzan how much he was getting at Manly (which he told him) and when Zinzan asked Ridge - Ridge jokingly replied “I can’t tell you” which Zinzan took to mean it was more (it wasn’t) and felt he couldn’t trust Ridge. Ridge had no idea Zinzan was pissed at him till quite a while later.

 

[Matua]

So it was an ego thing?

wasn’t Brooke the captain of the all blacks at the time?

Not really despite the joking around on Sportscafe, in his book he said he just got cold feet and decided he didn't want to go and Lowe let him out of the contract. Nope, he was never the AB captain.

 

[Matiunz]

Not really despite the joking around on Sportscafe, in his book he said he just got cold feet and decided he didn't want to go and Lowe let him out of the contract. Nope, he was never the AB captain.

See he was listed as captain 5 times I assumed it was maybe for the midweek team? Was mainly Kirk and Fitzpatrick over his time wasn’t it? Think I remember Marshall captaining once maybe?

 

[Matua]

See he was listed as captain 5 times I assumed it was maybe for the midweek team? Was mainly Kirk and Fitzpatrick over his time wasn’t it? Think I remember Marshall captaining once maybe?

Yeah, he never captained a test, was Fitzy and then Marshall on that tour of the UK in 1997. Zinny probably would have been the better choice for captain on that tour. Buck was captain for his first couple of years after Kirk's one year in 87, then Whetton, then Fitzy.

 

[T to the T]

Yeh all this attention on nz shows nz2 is basically a lock

It seems to be following the Perth pattern. NZ2 for 2029/30?

 

[Wb1234]