I don't understand what this has to do with them having the highest attendance in Sydney for decades despite the AFL being a minor sport in Sydney, but I can't be bothered arguing. . .Incorrect as usual they averaged 34k in 2019, 37k in 2018, 36k in 2017 and 36k in 2016... not really that different to 36k in 2023.
Oh and they were averaging 39k in 1997 so their crowds growth grew during the SL war and stagnated as soon as it finished... but that had nothing to do with it of course right Dane?
That's my general experience of NSW and QLD expats in Canberra as well.If we’re dealing in anecdotes - none of the NSW/QLD expats I know down here follow the Storm, they follow their own teams from NSW/QLD. You see plenty of people of Maori & Islander appearance at games but certainly not a majority. Also you’ll probably find quite a lot of those “Islanders & Kiwis” were born and raised in Victoria or have lived the majority of their lives here.
I agree that any talk of RL outgrowing RU or the All Blacks in NZ any time in the foreseeable future is at best fanciful, but I don't think it's impossible that the NRL could build a handful of solid clubs in NZ that are at least competitive in size to their Super Rugby counterparts, or maybe even grow to be bigger than them in time.You guys are off chops if you think the NRL will become a bigger sport then the All Blacks.
And that a sudden decline in success for the ABs would suddenly see people shifting to League.(as an aside, wouldn't the same apply to the Kiwis)?
Our game doesn't have to be No1 though(f**k it isn't even in Australia), we just need a good foothold and a strong supporter base
The Maltildas argument ignores that this was a once in a lifetime event.
I'll just tell you between you and me.
Pretend it's just us while you read this.
This is what I know and you know.
Perth crowds aren't going to be great, borderline worst in the league - that's on any like for like scenario after the honeymoon period.
The travel tyranny is the worst in the league bar none.
The ability to attract talent will be the worst in the league bar none.
The costs associated with running a club will be the worst in the league bar none.
They will have the smallest supply of talent in the league bar none.
Those are what YOU and I know for a fact.
If you want to have a discussion about a possible Perth team, I'm all for it. I'm all for a Perth team tbh but let's stick to the FACTS.
Haha it’s a $600million game! Paying around $1/2mill or less than 0.1% of revenue in travel and accomodation costs for a new club won’t kill the nrl. It will be more for a png in cairns or a nz2 side.The ARLC would have to fit the travel expenses of flying players from Perth to the east coast. It would be a significant burden on the game.
The "time zone" factor might be of interest to Foxtel, but it is a hindrance to Ch9. Perth cannot host a game on Thursday or Friday night. The only Ch9 timeslot it could host is Sunday afternoon, which is 2pm AWST. Sponsors will spend less money on a team that is buried on Foxtel.
Players from Queensland, NSW and NZ will always choose to play for a club from the east coast over one from Perth unless they're paid overs.
perth will likely play majority of its home games on ptv on a Sunday afternoon wast. Away games will be a mix of fta and ptv Depending on opponent.
again last point is your opinion. Same could have been said for Melbourne, they seem to have done ok.
For $1/2mill plus ayear and a chance to play in nrl I. Sure they’ll cope with an extra coupe of hours flight every few months to pop back and see the folks lol we had kids coming to perth from nz and east coast just to play in our sg ball side.Why would Ch9 want to air a game featuring Perth as the away team on a Thursday or Friday night?
If it's against a Brisbane team then the ratings will be shit in Sydney. If it's against a Sydney team then the ratings in Brisbane will tank.
Neutrals won't be interested in watching Perth unless the team is a juggernaut like the Storm.
It's very likely that a Perth-based team will assemble a mediocre roster. Marquee players want to play for teams that can contend for the premiership. If the team gets smashed every week then the club will struggle to draw a crowd. It's not like Brisbane where big crowds turned up to Lang Park to watch the Dolphins at the end of the season, despite the fact the team was getting smashed each week.
Melbourne isn't on the other side of the country. It doesn't take 5hr40min to get from Brisbane to Melbourne.
NRL itself covers all travel and accomodation costs of clubs. I’d be surprised if they don’t have some partner deals with airlines and hotels accordingly.Travel costs are essentially negligible in 2023 for a business the size and scope of the NRL.
f**k I wouldn't be surprised if most regional teams have their travel expenses "sponsored" anyway.
The Cowboys, Storm and Broncos have always had some form of airline sponsoring them over the years (Skytrans, Tiger, Air Asia etc etc.).
And even if they didn't the NRL handout would comfortably cover those costs.
Tv ratings in Sydney peaked 20 years agoEh, I didn't read Dane's post properly. He waffles way too much so you get that. Yes, the Swans have the highest crowds but they have stagnated since the SL War
The NRL is finally investing in NZ, the momentum will not slow this time.Very much so,
-less than 10,000 players
-less than half the registered players of Union,Soccer and Basketball
-Only 13 out of 110 high schools actually offer League as an option. And this is the ‘strongest’ place in NZ for League and it’s extremely amateur in how the governing body is run compared to the above sports.
As an entertainment product yes THIS year attendance has been outstanding but that will quickly dip if they can’t keep the momentum going.
Free to air coverage is a big hurdle as well, (May have changed as I haven’t watched free to air in years) but it wouldn’t be uncommon to have to wait until 10-11pm (or later) to watch a delayed free to air telecast of a Warriors game.
I can’t see a world where another team in Auckland is a better idea than a team in Wellington/CHCH/Hamilton