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New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

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I agree, sharing training days, photo opps and supporting each other ( attending games)will be the way forward. You don't want a code battle with the most successful Rugby team in the southern hemisphere. Even dual memberships.

There is zero chance of the NZRU helping a competitor. It's one thing to be optimistic, but this is just plain delusional.
 

Matiunz

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They've have on occasion, played in the national comp at least one year I think, but if the Super 8 teams aren't playing league they wouldn't have anyone to play against.

I would advise Wb not to get too hyped up about it as it's more due to Tohu than league taking over the school, but he'll just turn the advice into a shitfight. ;)
Super 8 schools would be a good start they compete at a number of sports/cultural events already.
Player numbers might be the issue to spread across essentially 2 codes
(Not sure if it’s still the same schools?)
But the likes of Hamilton/Rotorua probably be ok, not sure what the appetite for League is like in Tauranga/Palmy but the schools are probably big enough, Not sure there’s player numbers for both Hastings/Napier in a similar area and the likes of Gisborne/Newplymouth have areas with league history but probably too small and isolated to support 2 codes in school to a decent level.
School support is vital, the culture of club league in the regions is pretty poor and many have some pretty heavy gang influences which is a turn off for many
 

SpaceMonkey

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Super 8 schools would be a good start they compete at a number of sports/cultural events already.
Player numbers might be the issue to spread across essentially 2 codes
(Not sure if it’s still the same schools?)
But the likes of Hamilton/Rotorua probably be ok, not sure what the appetite for League is like in Tauranga/Palmy but the schools are probably big enough, Not sure there’s player numbers for both Hastings/Napier in a similar area and the likes of Gisborne/Newplymouth have areas with league history but probably too small and isolated to support 2 codes in school to a decent level.
School support is vital, the culture of club league in the regions is pretty poor and many have some pretty heavy gang influences which is a turn off for many
Tauranga should be fine - bigger population than Rotorua and close enough to play each other regularly. I had a look at the National schools comp and saw that one of the high schools in Whakatane (Trident) has been a regular participant too, so there’s potential to get a decent number of schools in the Bay participating. Would probably be a good time to tap somewhere like Tarawera HS in Kawerau too with Will Warbrick having a breakout year.
 
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Matua

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Super 8 schools would be a good start they compete at a number of sports/cultural events already.
Player numbers might be the issue to spread across essentially 2 codes
(Not sure if it’s still the same schools?)
But the likes of Hamilton/Rotorua probably be ok, not sure what the appetite for League is like in Tauranga/Palmy but the schools are probably big enough, Not sure there’s player numbers for both Hastings/Napier in a similar area and the likes of Gisborne/Newplymouth have areas with league history but probably too small and isolated to support 2 codes in school to a decent level.
School support is vital, the culture of club league in the regions is pretty poor and many have some pretty heavy gang influences which is a turn off for many
The main issue is when to play it. If played outside of the rugby season they'd probably be able to form decent teams. But highly doubt they can put the players together during the rugby season.

Maybe a short tournament in September/October which allows anyone from the 1st XVs/2nd Xvs etc to play if they want to?
 

SpaceMonkey

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The main issue is when to play it. If played outside of the rugby season they'd probably be able to form decent teams. But highly doubt they can put the players together during the rugby season.

Maybe a short tournament in September/October which allows anyone from the 1st XVs/2nd Xvs etc to play if they want to?
The NZ climate lends itself to spring/summer footy more than Australia’s- it rarely gets uncomfortably hot for footy/training before Christmas/New Year so plenty of time to run something, though end of year exams could create an issue.
 

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With social media the game is capturing the next generation of fans

I’m sure the kids will want to emulate their heroes so clubs will be getting more applications
 

SpaceMonkey

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I think the Warriors have been pretty on point with marketing too- the image they present is very Māori/Polynesian and youth focussed, and that’s exactly where the players are largely going to come from.
Rugby Union, while not being an elitist game in NZ, still represents the establishment and has a for want of a better word “whiter” image.
 

Wb1234

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I think the Warriors have been pretty on point with marketing too- the image they present is very Māori/Polynesian and youth focussed, and that’s exactly where the players are largely going to come from.
Rugby Union, while not being an elitist game in NZ, still represents the establishment and has a for want of a better word “whiter” image.
Less pakeha at warriors games than super rugby and test matches that’s for sure
 

Matua

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The NZ climate lends itself to spring/summer footy more than Australia’s- it rarely gets uncomfortably hot for footy/training before Christmas/New Year so plenty of time to run something, though end of year exams could create an issue.
Yeah the moving of the seasons means we don't get the hot Octobers anymore that we used to get in the real Bay ;) when I was a kid.

But yeah exams could mess with that, and EOYT.
 

SpaceMonkey

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I imagine birth rates and the consequent family sizes would be larger amongst the Islander communities as well. Bodes well for the future.
Totally, both Māori and Pasifika have significantly higher birth rates than the general population and and are growing quickly, only outstripped by the Asian population which is driven more by immigration.
 

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Totally, both Māori and Pasifika have significantly higher birth rates than the general population and and are growing quickly, only outstripped by the Asian population which is driven more by immigration.
I’ve seen some Asian wahs fans on tik tok at games
 

Wb1234

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Anyone know what happened to Te kah ?
Is it just a coincidence that he's disappeared just as " up the wahs " has exploded around the country?
BAHAHAHAHA
Bro he doesn’t even live in nz

he’s been stalking me on tik tok and twitter

he’s still here on an alt
 

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