New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

[Brian potter]

It would be funny if the Brisbane Tigers merged with Souths Logan Magpies to become the Brisbane Magpies. Oy in rugby league could something like this happen.

Could that even be a possibility?

you surely couldn’t have 2 teams named tigers in the same competition could you?

 

[Brian potter]

I talk with people from Malaysia. Their children play RU. The game has definitely grown into a truly international sport.

its unbelievable isn’t it. I remember talking to my doctor a few years ago who told me that he played RU in his youth in Sri Lanka.

I also listened to a podcast just the other week in which democrat presidential candidate RFK jr talked about playing RU at college in the USA.

RU is dead in Australia. It's on the decline in New Zealand. There's an opening for RL to increase its marketshare in New Zealand.

100% , now more than ever with RU expanding everywhere.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Could that even be a possibility?

you surely couldn’t have 2 teams named tigers in the same competition could you?

The only way it could work is if the Brisbane Tigers bought the IP to "Magpies" and "Brisbane Magpies", then bid under that name. If they were granted the licence they could them agree to sell the IP to Wests in exchange for the IP to "Tigers" at NRL level. There's probably all sorts of legal issues preventing it from happening, but it would make for a good news story if it happened.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

its unbelievable isn’t it. I remember talking to my doctor a few years ago who told me that he played RU in his youth in Sri Lanka.

I also listened to a podcast just the other week in which democrat presidential candidate RFK jr talked about playing RU at college in the USA.

100% , now more than ever with RU expanding everywhere.

RU has no chance of ever challenging RL in Australia. The Socceroos have taken the mantle that the Wallabies used to hold.

 

[Wb1234]

Why would somebody who doesn’t already go to Mt smart and support the warriors suddenly decide to do so to support another Auckland based NRL team playing out of the same stadium?

Auckland isn’t brisbane and the warriors aren’t the broncos!

Warriors are the biggest rugby club in Auckland

broncos are the biggest rugby club in Brisbane (just) to the might dolphins

 

[Wb1234]

Hull KR are 141 years old while their cross city neighbours hull fc are 158 years old.

family tradition no doubt plays a huge part in which club a son or daughter supports.

Hull fc fans have a full set of teeth

 

[The Penguin #6.]

The cannibalising myth was put to bed with the Dolphins

Cannibalising not only refers to fans. In a small economy like NZ it could also refer to sponsors. Sponsors maybe a bit thin on the ground what with unions dominance there as well.

 

[Matiunz]

You're overreaching here. The NPC team is very popular.

Taking a one off match and extrapolating that out to an ongoing team doesn't work. League is a very minor sport in Hawkes Bay and only just restarted the small club comp this year.

Bring Back the Unicorns!!
But in all honesty I liked the idea of the lion red cup but the spread of the talent is the biggest issue. Playing it in summer using some qld/nsw cup fringe players to bolster the squads would be interesting if done right

 

[Perth Red]

Hull fc fans have a full set of teeth

Clearly never visited the the Boulevard!

 

[Wb1234]

Clearly never visited the the Boulevard!

No but I did visit west hull

I wish I could’ve visited the threepenny stand

 

[Perth Red]

Exactly. Longterm fans have an emotional connection with their club. I wish PR would understand that's why I feel so strongly about BRL clubs and resent his dismissive attitude towards their history. He wants to demote the Queensland Cup to third tier status by introducing reserve grade and not allow any more clubs, like the Brisbane Tigers, to progress to the NRL. All in the name of "expansion". He wouldn't like it if his club was thrown on the scrapheap in the name of progress.

It's why I no longer call for rationalisation of Sydney. I was selfish and bitter like PR for too long.

as an expansionist supporting the game of rugby league first and foremost I’ve always said if hkr were the worse club in SL and there was a big city club with more fans, money and producing players I wouldn’t have an issue dropping out.
End of day that would ne no one’s fault but our own for not growing the business. As it stands there isn’t one close and hkr aren’t the weakest club in SL by a long shot.

Brisbane does not need a third brisbane club until new markets have been opened up. It has two clubs adequately serving the city.

 

[Perth Red]

No but I did visit west hull

I wish I could’ve visited the threepenny stand

You must have gone to the posh part and not hessle road if you saw teeth lol

 

[Wb1234]

You must have gone to the posh part and not hessle road if you saw teeth lol

I went on the poor man’s Sydney harbour bridge that goes nowhere

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

as an expansionist supporting the game of rugby league first and foremost I’ve always said if hkr were the worse club in SL and there was a big city club with more fans, money and producing players I wouldn’t have an issue dropping out.
End of day that would ne no one’s fault but our own for not growing the business. As it stands there isn’t one close and hkr aren’t the weakest club in SL by a long shot.

Brisbane does not need a third brisbane club until new markets have been opened up. It has two clubs adequately serving the city.

You're only in favour of Hull KR dropping out if they're the worst club in Super League and a larger club comes along to represent the city?

There already is a larger club in Hull drawing bigger crowds. It's called Hull FC. Using your logic, the city is already adequately serviced.

Your argument doesn't bode well for Perth. A third Brisbane team will draw more fans and generate far more money from football operations than a team from Perth. The Brisbane Tigers have a net asset base worth $135m with a high performance training centre that's NRL standard. Perth doesn't.

 

[Perth Red]

You're only in favour of Hull KR dropping out if they're the worst club in Super League and a larger club comes along to represent the city?

There already is a larger club in Hull drawing bigger crowds. It's called Hull FC. Using your logic, the city is already adequately serviced.

Your argument doesn't bode well for Perth. A third Brisbane team will draw more fans and generate far more money from football operations than a team from Perth. The Brisbane Tigers have a net asset base worth $135m with a high performance training centre that's NRL standard. Perth doesn't.

Not the city you gronk, in SL. If we were the weakest club in SL and a London, Newcastle or Birmingham came along that offered more than we do then I’d accept it would betier for the game. But there isn’t and it’s a dumb position to even debate given where both hull clubs stand in SL. No it would be like me saying hull should have a third team because it would be bigger than other options. The city is adequately covered with two clubs, as is brisbane.

again you don’t know what a perth bid will offer so that’s an opinion or guess re wealth and facilities on your part. Maybe the wa govt builds an amazing centre of excellence, maybe the consortium are mega coined. Neither you nor I know.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Not the city you gronk, in SL. If we were the weakest club in SL and a London, Newcastle or Birmingham came along that offered more than we do then I’d accept it would betier for the game. But there isn’t and it’s a dumb position to even debate given where both hull clubs stand in SL. No it would be like me saying hull should have a third team because it would be bigger than other options. The city is adequately covered with two clubs, as is brisbane.

again you don’t know what a perth bid will offer so that’s an opinion or guess re wealth and facilities on your part. Maybe the wa govt builds an amazing centre of excellence, maybe the consortium are mega coined. Neither you nor I know.

There is a London club.

London Broncos!

Now you're arguing the Broncos should only replace Hull KR if they have more fans?

A third Brisbane team will have more fans than a Perth-based team!

You even admitted that a third Brisbane team will be bigger than one from Perth the other day. Now you're saying the rules you've created for Brisbane and Perth shouldn't apply to Hull and London.

A stronger argument can be made for replacing Hull KR with the London Broncos because London is one of the largest cities in the world. Perth is smaller than Brisbane, yet you want the NRL to jump over backwards to put a team in it.

A Perth-based team will only be supported by a few expatriates from Queensland, NSW, NZ and England.

 

[jim_57]

It would be funny if the Brisbane Tigers merged with Souths Logan Magpies to become the Brisbane Magpies. Only in rugby league could something like this happen.

Something new would be better. Tigers, Magpies & Jets for that matter have all been used in the NRL/NSWRL before. Magpies is the name of probably the biggest sporting club in Australia and a former/merged NRL club. Tigers are in both the NRL and AFL. Jets has been used by Newtown and an A-League side.

I’ve always liked ‘Hornets’ for an Ipswich/West Brisbane side. The type of Jet used at Amberley would be a unique compromise.

 

[Matua]

For the benefit of @Wb1234 who earlier in the thread was so concerned with the private school dominance of rugby in NZ, the current NZ secondary schools team only has one private schoolboy.

 

[The Penguin #6.]

There is a London club.

London Broncos!

Now you're arguing the Broncos should only replace Hull KR if they have more fans?

A third Brisbane team will have more fans than a Perth-based team!

You even admitted that a third Brisbane team will be bigger than one from Perth the other day. Now you're saying the rules you've created for Brisbane and Perth shouldn't apply to Hull and London.

A stronger argument can be made for replacing Hull KR with the London Broncos because London is one of the largest cities in the world. Perth is smaller than Brisbane, yet you want the NRL to jump over backwards to put a team in it.

A Perth-based team will only be supported by a few expatriates from Queensland, NSW, NZ and England.

Give it a rest mate.

 

[Perth Red]

There is a London club.

London Broncos!

Now you're arguing the Broncos should only replace Hull KR if they have more fans?

A third Brisbane team will have more fans than a Perth-based team!

You even admitted that a third Brisbane team will be bigger than one from Perth the other day. Now you're saying the rules you've created for Brisbane and Perth shouldn't apply to Hull and London.

A stronger argument can be made for replacing Hull KR with the London Broncos because London is one of the largest cities in the world. Perth is smaller than Brisbane, yet you want the NRL to jump over backwards to put a team in it.

A Perth-based team will only be supported by a few expatriates from Queensland, NSW, NZ and England.

Yawn