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Rugby's secret windfall
27 February 2005
By GREG FORD

The New Zealand Rugby Union will pocket $10 million when the All Blacks appear at the next World Cup.

The payment will be made at the tournament in France in 2007 and at each subsequent World Cup.

The International Rugby Board has kept the deal secret for a year and the revelation looks certain to upset Pacific nations such as Fiji, Samoa and Tonga who will miss out on the windfall.

The IRB has promised a multi-pound payment to New Zealand, its Sanzar partners Australia and South Africa, the six European countries who compete in the annual Six Nations tournament and Argentina.

It is likely to lead to All Blacks wanting their share of the money.

The payment is essentially an appearance fee to guarantee the participation of top-tier rugby nations that are unhappy at not getting a slice of the tournament's massive profits.

It leaked into the public domain late last week during a Scottish government inquiry into the woes of its Rugby Union. The inquiry uncovered the planned IRB payment.

NZRU chairman Jock Hobbs said his organisation was not trying to keep anything from the public but rather the "decision was made by the IRB and it was up to them to decide whether to announce it or not . . . now that it's out I can confirm it," he said.

Fiji, Samoa and Tonga are among countries to miss out on the payment. This raises the potential anomaly that an island nation could win the World Cup and get less than a team that qualifies for the payment but fails to reach the knock-out stages.

The development also looks set to inject added spice into negotiations between the New Zealand Rugby Players' Association and the NZRU.

The two became embroiled in a standoff prior to the last World Cup in Australia in 2003 when the association argued it should receive some of the tournament profits. The union agreed to pay players bonuses for each win.

The parties are thrashing out a new employment agreement and will not comment during negotiations.

Association chief executive Rob Nichol was unaware of the IRB payment until told of it by the Sunday Star-Times yesterday.

"We are surprised the (IRB) decision was made behind closed doors," Nichol said.

Hobbs conceded the issue would interest the association.

"It's possible they may be interested in the money but we hope the new collective agreement will include issues like World Cup bonus payments and have agreement on those issues for future reference."

New Zealand has long argued around the IRB boardroom table that it should be compensated for its participation in the cup where the All Blacks are always a headline team. Until now the IRB has pocketed the multi million dollar profits the tournament generates.

"So the payment should be seen in that context," Hobbs said. "We are being compensated for the tests we would have otherwise played at that time. There is still some way to go before we get to the stage where we have an agreed model on revenue sharing for the tests and tournaments schedule. But this brings us another step closer and we are making progress."

The NZRU's coffers are full.

Foreign exchange earnings have allowed the union to build a $50m reserves fund and it's expected the union will break the $100m revenue mark for the first time in its next set of annual accounts.

Hobbs said no decision had been made on what to do with the windfall.
 

dimitri

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rugby union used to pride itself on is supposed "amatuer statues"


now they want appearance money


:roll:
 

skeepe

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That's interesting dimitri, where are these statues? I haven't seen any.

On another note, I think it would be much fairer for this money to be spent in the developing nations. The only way the world cup will grow and have more competitive nations is if these nations are given a leg-up by the IRB first. This rich getting richer scenario certainly doesn't sit well with me at all.
 

ozbash

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I think it would be much fairer for this money to be spent in the developing nations.


agree.the pacific islands could do a lot with that sort of cash.

does the nzrfu actually need it ?
 

Tighthead

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Maybe Dmitri's talking about this amatuer statue:

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skeepe

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ozbash said:
does the nzrfu actually need it ?

I think the following part of the original post answers this one:

The NZRU's coffers are full.

Foreign exchange earnings have allowed the union to build a $50m reserves fund and it's expected the union will break the $100m revenue mark for the first time in its next set of annual accounts.

Why do they want this money? They have enough already, while some developing nations are unable to even bring their national team together because they don't have enough money. Disgraceful from the IRB, NZRU and ARU, among others, in my opinion.
 

bayrep

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I cant understand why the IRB are sticking it to the under funded and up and coming nations. Surely they are not that short sighted ?
 

skeepe

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It doesn't really surprise me. The IRB really do not care about how nations other than the "home" nations fare.

There have been a few examples of this recently. For a start, none of the cash they reaped from last year's world cup went to developing nations. The IRB pocketed it all.

Secondly, Australia suggests 2 North vs South tsunami relief matches, one in Australia in June and one in London in November. Makes perfect sense, all players are available to play then. But no, the IRB decides to hi-jack the idea and play it on March 5 - coincidentally, a week off in the Six Nations, meaning none of the northern hemisphere teams will be disadvantaged. As we're all aware however, this is smack bang at the start of the Super 12. The northern hemisphere players will be primed for the match, having played several previously whereas the southern hemisphere players will have played only one. Not only that, the IRB decided that all money raised will go to the UN Food Program. The Australians who came up with the idea for the match instead wanted to donate it to an organisation where they would be sure the money would get to the victims.

Thirdly, back to the world cup last year. English clubs told some of their overseas players that if they went and represented their country at the world cup, they would have no contracts to come back to. Did the IRB step in? Of course not. They sided with the clubs and consequently left the Pacific nations in particular poorer for it.

The biggest problem of all, however, is the fact that we now have a piss-weak ARU who are unable, or probably more accurately unwilling, to speak out against the IRB. What we really need is an IRB that is truly representative of all rugby-playing nations and tries to help, rather than hinder, development in countries that sorely need it.
 

rugged

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That's all true skeepe.

What sort of players have the NH put forward?

I heard they aren't the best?
 

skeepe

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North Squad

L Dallaglio (ENG), B Cohen (ENG), A Rougerie (FRA), D Traille (FRA), F Pelous (FRA), R Ibanez (FRA), P de Villiers (FRA), B O'Driscoll (IRE, capt), P O'Connell (IRE), D Humphreys (IRE), C Paterson (SCO), C Cusiter (SCO), G Bulloch (SCO), S Taylor (SCO), A Lo Cicero (ITA); M Bortolami (ITA), S Parisse (ITA), D Peel (WAL), C Sweeney (WAL), J Thomas (WAL), R Williams (WAL), J Yapp (WAL).

South Squad

Chris Latham (AUS); Rupeni Caucaunibuca (FJI) Jacque Fourie (SA) Tana Umaga (NZ), Sireli Bobo (FJI); Andrew Mehrtens (NZ) George Gregan (AUS, capt); Toutai Kefu (AUS) Phil Waugh (AUS) Schalk Burger (SA); Ifereimi Rawaqa (FJI), Victor Matfield (SA); Kobus Visagie (SA) John Smit (SA), Carl Hoeft (NZ)

Reserves: Bruce Reihana (NZ), Brian Lima (SAM), Ephraim Taukafa (TON), Opeta Palepoi (Sam), Semo Sititi (SAM), Moses Rauluni (FJI), one player to be announced


I think that's the squads, although I have heard that Pelous' club has refused to release him.
 
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Well said skeepe . One of my mate is now on the IRB board and he is the sole representive of the whole Pacific Nations (FORU) .
In the last IRB meetings others have been add to the IRB council but only as regional representive .


n order that the goals and objectives of the new IRB strategic plan are achieved a new governance model was approved at the November Interim Council Meeting to enhance the representation, effectiveness and efficiency of the organisation.

This new model includes the expansion of the IRB Council that is the ultimate legislative body of the game.

In an historic move the Interim Meeting agreed that all the Regional Associations should be officially represented on the 28 Member IRB Council, effectively meaning that for the first time all member countries have representation.

FIRA-AER (Association Eueopeene de Rugby) is a full voting member and will now be joined by CAR (Confederation Africaine de Rugby), FORU (Federation of Oceanic Rugby Unions) & ARFU (Asian Rugby Football Union). Previously they were associate members with observer status only.

CONSUR (Confederation Sud Americana de Rugby) and NAWIRA (North America West Indies Rugby Union) have been granted Observer Member status on the Council with a view to being accepted as full Members in the future. Previously these two associations were not represented at Council.

The role of the Regional Associations is central to ensuring that the IRB can effectively implement the Strategic Plan and lead world rugby to new levels of growth and development. The proposed role of the Regional Associations is to:

- Provide a forum for the Unions in the Region to work together to develop Rugby Union.
- Be the body for the purposes of developing the Game and organising Regional tournaments and representation of the views of Members in the IRB.
- Represent the views of the Region on the Council to the IRB.
- Formulate a Rugby specific strategic plan for the Region to achieve the vision, mission and goals of the IRB.
- Approve an annual business plan to translate the strategic plan into action.
- Monitor the implementation of the Rugby plan in the Region and achievement of KPIs.
- Ensure the Regional Association operates as an effective business and Member services organisation.
- Ensure there is a sound system of internal control and risk management policy and process in place to identify and manage risk. Standard constitutions and frameworks will be developed for each Regional Association along with regional specific frameworks.

“For the Confederation Africaine de Rugby, this admission is good news and will greatly assist the future progress and promotion of the Game across the Continent. Rugby in Africa now has a heightened level of recognition on the eve of the possible inclusion of the game in the Olympic Games and CAR is very grateful for this. November 2004 will be forever an important date in the history of the Game”, said CAR President, Abdelaziz Bougja.

"As far as the Asian Region is concerned, the decision is positive proof that the International Rugby Board is an organisation that can be relied upon to keep its word. The Strategic Plan for set out as one of its Targets, the admission of all Regions to membership of the IRB Council by 2007 and the Board is well on course for that.”

“If the Board is serious about the global development of the Game through the Regional Associations, then there has to be democratisation somewhere in the process since you cannot expect volunteers to do something for nothing without affording them an opportunity to contribute to the decision-making process”, said ARFU Hon. Secretary General, Jamie Scott.
 

skeepe

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That sounds good in theory. If all goes to plan, we may actually have a true International Rugby Board rather than the Northern Hemisphere Rugby Board we currently have.
 
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Im hoping the IRB will be run by a single CEO (like John O'neil did with ARU) . Because at the moment Wales , Scotland and Ireland has more vote to control the IRB .
The RWC in 2007 is an examble . Those Celtic nations blackmail France into letting them host some of the pool matches in return for their vote .
 
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NZRU announces $20.5 million profit

27.04.05 2.40pm

The New Zealand Rugby Union made a record profit of $20.5 million in the year ending December 2004.

It was $9 million more than the previous year.

The union's annual report was presented at today's annual meeting in Wellington.

Its total revenue was also a record, $104.9 million, compared with $93.6 million in the previous year.
 

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