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No Kangaroo Thief

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Foz

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The ARL are going to refund the $6500 to Webcke,Gower,Lockyer and Kearns.
No evidence can be found against anyone.
Case closed.
 

gunnamatta bay

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The way this thing has been handled is a disgrace. The leaking of information has resulted in a smear campaign that has now extended across the globe. A reputation has been smeared by rumour and inuendo.
 

Shark

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Why would Gower be any more pissed than the rest of the 'roos?

The ARL should be ashamed of themselves. So they think they can now shut the door, and the whole stinking mess will just go away?

No. Because there will always be SOMEONE trying to open that bloody door, and the stench will be even worse if it has been locked up in a broom cupboard for any length of time.

Anyone remember Scott Muller? Of course you do. Hey Scotty, it REALLY was Cameraman Joe mate! Really!

Smokescreens and diversions are just crap. There is always someone ready to wait long enough, until after the smoke has cleared, to reveal the truth.

Just ask Joe. Or, for that matter, Scotty Muller. Poor bloke was hard done by, but at the end of the day, the mob on The Panel ended his international cricket career. Had they not dug up the mess, the 'Can't Bowl, Can't Throw' saga would never have ever seen the light of day.

So, if the ARL were not sure if they could categorically reveal the truth, they should have kept it buried. The players who lost money should have been reimbursed, and SWORN to secrecy. Instead, they make a half-arsed attempt at shaming the thief into the open, which backfires terribly.

We will find out who it was. No doubt Rob Sitch and co. already know.
 

blacktip-reefy

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& I might add, that the player in question, was also robbed.
Does that mean that one of the people who re-imbursed, was the thief.
Or, despite no evidence, the guy doesn't get his money because they think he was the thief.
that sounds wide open to me.
 

Frenzy

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blacktip-reefy said:
& I might add, that the player in question, was also robbed.
Does that mean that one of the people who re-imbursed, was the thief.
Or, despite no evidence, the guy doesn't get his money because they think he was the thief.
that sounds wide open to me.

Alternatively, could it not be that the player who is alleged to be the thief has come forward late as part of some defence pattern.

I mean really, anyone could now come forward and say they were robbed and claim compensation now.

Another schemozzle.
 

PJ

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I thought I'd read that the player in question was one of the first to make mention of a theft.
 

cheese

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Geoff Carr was just on sports tonight and has confirmed that its officially been swept under the rug.

I have a sneaking suspicion that they are well aware of who done it. But due to the fact there is still that post world cup aura floating around, and due to the fact that our game is in a semi fragile state due to unions assault, i believe there is more to it than simply "not having enough evidence" ....


On another note......Is it just me, or is anyone else bewildered that Geoff Carr is the face of our game? .....the bloke looks like he'd be in struggle town trying to play lawn bowls, let alone rugby league
 
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of course they know who did it
it's a lack of evidence

if they didnt know who did it they wouldnt have gone public
they were trying to build the pressure

the player in question came forward after others reported stuff stolen
they'd know he was lying

how very schoolboyish
it would be like getting your mum to stick up for you

what a joke
whoever it is needs to grow up
PATHETIC
 

Quint

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cheese said:
I have a sneaking suspicion that they are well aware of who done it. But due to the fact there is still that post world cup aura floating around, and due to the fact that our game is in a semi fragile state due to unions assault, i believe there is more to it than simply "not having enough evidence" ....
I think you're right Cheese,They know as will we all soon enough if not formaly but by word of mouth.
I have heard from a few people a certain name and some of them have good sources.......If it is true and ruins this guys career then so be it.
The ARL will try and cover it up but it will be as much public knowledge as Paris Hiltons movie Career..... :)
 
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HAHA THEY CLEARLY KNOW WHO IT IS

The Kangaroos player at the centre of $6500 theft allegations has previously been accused of stealing by an NRL club.

However, the Australian Rugby League has failed to find any evidence the player was involved in the series of thefts from Kangaroos players during the Leeds leg of their recent tour and, despite a "sophisticated investigation", has closed the case.

The player cannot be identified for legal reasons and neither can the club because that may identify the player. But officials at the club said the player "has a problem everywhere he goes, he grabs stuff, he can't help himself".

It is understood the club declined to call police and charges weren't laid against the player.

"At the end of the day, it wasn't to our benefit to involve the police," a club official said.

But the Australian selectors were unaware of the player's problem, and ARL chairman of selectors Colin Love said players were selected purely on their playing ability.

"We didn't know about this [the thieving allegations] and even if we had, we would have been careful about the rumour. If the player had not been convicted by a court, it could be a case of him being unjustly accused," Love said.

The Australian Rugby League yesterday released its report into the scandal.

Team manager Gerard Raper and the team security officer, Yorkshire police inspector Gary Haigh, failed to find evidence of who was involved.

ARL chief executive Geoff Carr said there wasn't a scrap of evidence and was bitterly disappointed by the innuendo surrounding one of the players.

"It is embarrassing for the players who competed on such a successful tour that, while the ARL was obliged to look at all possibilities, others have seized only on the notion that a person or persons from the touring party may have been involved," Carr said.

The ARL said it will refund the money to the players but "has been able to establish no evidence linking any person to the disappearance of the funds".

The player who is the No.1 suspect in the eyes of both the ARL and the majority of players on the tour is, therefore, officially eligible to be chosen in another representative team and, assuming he is guilty, actually profits from his crime because he will be refunded money he himself reported stolen.

The player's manager, acknowledging the vast traffic in email correspondence naming his client, said: "He is suspect No.1 without any evidence against him. That's the way the matter will remain."

The manager ruled out any possibility of the player coming forward and making a public statement about the damage done to his reputation via gossip.

"He will be saying nothing to anyone," the manager said, adding the player was hurt by the implications of newspaper reports and disposed to comment but was concerned at the consequences because it would open a Pandora's box of accusations. He also said the player had reaffirmed to the ARL the theft of his own money on the tour.

By declining to make public comment and lamenting the loss of his reputation, the player will find the scrutiny of players more intense than the wind whipped up by the media sandstorm and the scorch of email.

Despite the ARL's two-page press release attempting to divert the possibility of blame to guests and staff at the Marriott Hotel in Leeds, the majority of Kangaroos were hopping mad and keen to nail the player.

He will be sorted out, despite the remote possibility in the minds of some he may be innocent. The dressing room universe of verbal darts, heavy sarcasm and ridicule is quadrupled on the playing field, where the men across the line are not teammates but enemies.

The player will be sledged unmercifully. "Here comes the tea leaf" will greet him on many a carry of the ball.

Radio will be almost as unsubtle. He will be riddled with holes from talkback radio pot shots and commentators won't be able to resist the temptation to say: "Kangaroo X is having a set-to with Kangaroo Y. Wonder what that is all about?"

Media reports over the past week have said the player also stole a watch from a woman's purse at a nightclub and had a Walkman belonging to another player found in his bag. Another Kangaroos player reported having his jumper stolen.

An NRL first-grade coach claims senior players at the suspect's club had been forced to confront him about his stealing.

Maybe the player, if he does have a problem, should have confessed his disposition to steal was an illness. Players would probably have treated him sympathetically. League has long shown tolerance towards those with mental difficulties, including those charged by the courts with sexual perversions or other crimes.

The ARL report said: "We owed it to the players and the fans to try and establish all we could on the issue and that's why we have sought a full report from the team management."

However, the fact remains all players on the tour have been impugned by the report's inability to name anyone.

Raper's report lists a member of the public stealing a projector from the Leeds hotel as evidence someone outside the tour party could be guilty, and points out all the thefts took place in England.

But the world's vast "truth" engine, email, has already decided the identity of the guilty party.

Half bricks, like half-truths, travel further. They move even faster and over a greater distance now via the speed of the vast, whirring electronic chat rooms.

The ARL, like all national sporting organisations, has a new beast to handle, one largely immune from defamation.

They would have preferred this story never to have surfaced in The Sun-Herald. But the days of "in house" handling of embarrassments are long gone.

Sport's best hope is a story stays on the back pages and not the police blotter. But players will always have their own cultural rules on how to handle those who steal their wives, their money or their honours.

At this year's Kangaroos reunion, held the day before the NRL grand final, a hall-of-fame plaque acknowledging the feats of the fabled 1963 team went missing.

The '63 Kangaroos, the first team to win the Ashes in Great Britain, are very proud of their status in the hall, along with the 1948 cricket "Invincibles".

A celebrated member of the '63 team took the plaque and was later seen to put it in the boot of his car.

A Test teammate observed this and, after some agonising deliberation, reported the theft to ARL chief executive, Geoff Carr.

Carr contacted a former clubmate of the light-pawed Kangaroo and the plaque was returned within 24 hours.
 

wittyfan

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This whole saga is quite incredible. Whoever this player is needs to wake up to himself. :evil:
 

Sharkie73

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We here's the latest from Foxsports
Looter's five-finger bonus
By Paul Kent
December 12, 2003

THE player formerly at the centre of the former investigation into money formerly missing - but now apparently to be returned! - was in no mood for conversation yesterday.

He has been in hiding since the story broke but was found holed up in a little house yesterday with a little brown fence out the front, and a lot going on inside.

After being told by his manager on Tuesday that "You won't find him" it was too good an opportunity not to press the doorbell yesterday, where a middle-aged woman with a grim mouth said, "No comment."

We apologised and asked for the player. "No comment. Sorry."

And with that the door was closed, and locked. But she was polite.

Five minutes later, the woman, the mother of the player's partner, left the house and walked home.

The player failed to surface so another attempt was tried. A middle-aged man with a cheerful expression answered the door.

"There's nobody here," he said. "I'm just a builder doing some work out back, that's why the door was locked."

Which would have been fine except through the glass pane in the door two figures could be seen moving against a lit backdrop, which was explained to the only builder in the world that apparently doesn't wear a toolbelt.

"That's the lady of the house," the builder explained.

Could we speak to her? "She doesn't want to talk."

It was impressive, a builder and a butler. "There's nobody here that wants to speak to you," he said this time Jeeves locked the door. Again.

Hours later the ARL released a statement that not only cleared all the Kangaroos of any involvement in the stolen money scandal, but stunningly revealed the ARL would reimburse the players who had had money stolen.

So let's get this straight.

The player at the centre of the scandal - who claimed to have money stolen himself allegedly as part of his alibi - has double dipped.

Cha-ching! He has got the cash twice!

Why the ARL felt compelled to reimburse players for money that went missing without any explanation is one of those small mysteries that are never answered, like why is bellybutton lint always blue.

The ARL has obviously accepted responsibility for the players not being able to manage the most basic domestic requirement of locking a door to keep out bogeymen. Given this rationale, you can see there is some prime swampland just waiting to be sold to these guys.

While chief executive Geoff Carr said security procedures would now be reviewed, what about how the matter was investigated?

One room was set up for the sting. What about the rest? How did they figure the thief would choose that room?

Crucial to the evidence was a mad thief caught lifting a team film projector and walking straight out of the hotel. When spotted, our man dropped the projector and took stride, but it was rightfully considered that if there was this unknown thief, how many more?

Did he get the cash too? Interestingly, though, before the official statement was released the ARL had the document poured over by a lawyer, while draft copies were sent to Players Association president Tony Butterfield and also to the manager of the player in question.

More than anything the ARL has been terrified of the legal ramifications if a player was inadvertently identified.

Do that and he could soon own that prime ARL swampland.

The statement must have been accepted as good news when it was eventually relayed to the little house with the little brown fence out the front.

It didn't go unnoticed that behind the fence was a motorbike under a blue tarpaulin, with a chain coming out securing it to the carport.

Gees, you can't trust anybody these days
 

Anonymous

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Please folks - resist the urge to even offer subtle hints. I've deleted any post that seemed to vaguely offer any hint at an identity. You've heard it all before - we don't want to see this place shut down.
 
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