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Non Footy Chat Thread II

Delboy

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That’s theory , who is doing it. I don’t really care other than we get affordable, on demand power for this country to use. I understand you want to save the world from this very small part of the universe.

You can print 5o pages of what could happen, but it’s not.
 

Delboy

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Gronk , we are poles apart on energy supply. Just go and join your political ally, Daley, in preventing NSW from catching up with the rest of Australia.

Does that stir you up enough, we’ve agreed on a lot of footy stuff recently :thumbsup::stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
 

Gronk

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That’s theory , who is doing it. I don’t really care other than we get affordable, on demand power for this country to use. I understand you want to save the world from this very small part of the universe.

You can print 5o pages of what could happen, but it’s not.

It's not a theory. This is Great Britain's energy mix RIGHT NOW. Notice a trend with the yellow and grey bits ?

Perhaps you can explain to me why Britain's Conservative government are fully behind the reduction of fossil fuels and our government wont have a bar of it ?

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This is New Zealand's energy mix RIGHT NOW.

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Bazal

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Well the sheer number of NIMBYs in Australia doesn't help. And the weird spread of opinion.

Like, people champion alternative energy (and well they should) but then stand in the way of desal plants.

Australia is f**ken weird
 

Gary Gutful

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Instead of trying to cling on to the past, they need to head towards the future.

https://phys.org/news/2018-07-austrians-power-steel-industry-hydrogen.html
Fully agree, but at the moment there are only very low scale trials and experiments occurring. If we continue to make progress with the technology then some day it will be able to be used at scale to satisfy global demand for steel. But right now we aren't there yet. Not even close.

I can see a world without thermal coal well before a world without metallurgical coal. It frustrates me when people talk about coal and don't recognise the obvious differences.

The biggest problem with our power production is the lack of energy policy for the past decade. The LNP and LP have been flip flopping since before Howard was elected. Cannot believe that it was the same party who Howard introduced an Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS) 12 years ago. Merkins have been arm flapping and procrastinating ever since.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2007-07-17/howard-announces-emissions-trading-system/2505080
100%. It embarrassing and a major sovereign risk.
 

Bazal

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If it wasn't for morons like the Greens et al, the solution for Australia would be obvious in the medium term.

We should have been on the nuclear bandwagon already.
 

Gronk

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If it wasn't for morons like the Greens et al, the solution for Australia would be obvious in the medium term.

We should have been on the nuclear bandwagon already.
IIRC there is a nuclear power generator being built in the us and it has been delayed and marred with budget blowouts. IIRC it is sitting at $20b right now and still years away from being finished.
 

Bazal

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How many magpies die each year? If you could harness all of those farts you could probably power Canberra for at least 3 months.

Well if it's noxious gases you want, why not skip the magpies and use the shit that the f**kwits in parliament house pump out?
 

Bazal

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IIRC there is a nuclear power generator being built in the us and it has been delayed and marred with budget blowouts. IIRC it is sitting at $20b right now and still years away from being finished.

No doubt not helped by the fear campaigns that lead to a "nuclear free California" (almost, I think the last is shutting next year or something?) and other shut downs around the place.

Pretty funny when the hippies realise that their nuclear free state will lose more clean energy with that last shutdown than they have ever produced from renewables.

I mean, nuclear would be such a great fit for Australia. That boat sailed a whole ago though
 

Eelogical

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You tell 'em Eelo! We need this thread for the spillover from the Kane Evans thread.
The truth lies somewhere, who f**king knows exactly where. Usually these days, it's somewhere between both sides of a political argument. My own POV, HELE for the time being until technology can ween us off coal. Invest in both.
 

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