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Non Footy Chat Thread II

Gronk

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If they were free to do as they wished then why did they lie about the censorship?
In any case I was talking about the Republican party.
Why does a company responsible to it’s $hareholder$, spin to adjust market perceptions? Yeah no idea mate. Is that a thing ?

In 2019, Murdoch declared there were “no climate change deniers” in his company.
 

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This post literally says your expectation is that a media company SHOULD be biased and only post one side of something .... specifically the things you agree with, lol .... i thought we hoped the media were unbiased and balanced
Misinformation and disinformation are far more than opinions.
 
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And suppose they had experienced hostility from Christians? You think they should just suck it up and pretend to support them?
What hypothetical worm hole are you disappearing into now? The Manly 7 were (are?) homophobes, and their refusal to play one game in a club-sanctioned jersey that had a teensy weeny strip of rainbow colour (and cost their club a finals berth) demonstrates this.
 
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Which exact (US) law is that again....?
In the United States, freedom of speech and expression is strongly protected from government restrictions by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, many state constitutions, and state and federal laws. Freedom of speech, also called free speech, means the free and public expression of opinions without censorship, interference and restraint by the government.[1][2][3][4] The term "freedom of speech" embedded in the First Amendment encompasses the decision what to say as well as what not to say.[5] The Supreme Court of the United States has recognized several categories of speech that are given lesser or no protection by the First Amendment and has recognized that governments may enact reasonable time, place, or manner restrictions on speech. The First Amendment's constitutional right of free speech, which is applicable to state and local governments under the incorporation doctrine,[6] prevents only government restrictions on speech, not restrictions imposed by private individuals or businesses unless they are acting on behalf of the government.[7]

 
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Yeah, nah... not exactly. The right to free speech in the first amendment is quite different to people suddenly expecting a private tech company to have never had any rules or preferences about what speech is allowed on their free platform.

As previously mentioned, LU also has rules about what should and should not be posted here, and tools to ensure those preferences are upheld. All perfectly reasonable.

Twitter is a business, would get lobbied by all sorts of people from all sorts of angles to do all sorts of things, but makes/made its own choices to do what it wants with regards to freedom of expression on its platform. Can't see a legal case being built by anyone against Twitter for their suspecnsions or visibility filtering being a breach of the first amendment of the US constitition 😂.
 
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Yeah, nah... not exactly. The right to free speech in the first amendment is quite different to people suddenly expecting a private tech company to have never had any rules or preferences about what speech is allowed on their free platform.

As previously mentioned, LU also has rules about what should and should not be posted here, and tools to ensure those preferences are upheld. All perfectly reasonable.

Twitter is a business, would get lobbied by all sorts of people from all sorts of angles to do all sorts of things, but makes/made its own choices to do what it wants with regards to freedom of expression on its platform. Can't see a legal case being built by anyone against Twitter for their suspecnsions or visibility filtering being a breach of the first amendment of the US constitition 😂.
Did you miss the bolded bit? And are not aware that the FBI and other agencies were having weekly meetings with Twitter executives? And that they have a portal into Twitter where they can get content deleted. I guess so.
 
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The first amendment actually reads:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for redress of grievances." First Amendment, U.S. Constitution

So absolutely nothing to do with whatever you're worried the government may have been doing lobbying Twitter, who are a privately-run business making their own decisions re content, advertising and business.

#gototheprimarysource
 
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The first amendment actually reads:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for redress of grievances." First Amendment, U.S. Constitution

So absolutely nothing to do with whatever you're worried the government may have been doing lobbying Twitter, who are a privately-run business making their own decisions re content, advertising and business.

#gototheprimarysource
  1. The First Amendment prevents government from requiring you to say something you don't want to, or keeping you from hearing or reading the words of others (even if you never speak out yourself, you have the right to receive information).

Oh and maybe don't add that 🤣 emoji to every post. It just makes you look silly.
 
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Did you miss the bit in the first amendment to the Constitution that shows it's (only) to ensure "Congress shall make no law..."? 😂

It's not a criminal law that can be broken and prosecuted. It's hardly even something that would be open to civil action by anyone, unless Congress had made a law... Feel free to post a link to a case where the US government has been found to breach its own first amendment... and feel free keep getting overexcited by whatever Fox News is telling you to be overexcited about in the meantime.
 
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