Northern Rail National Leagues Cup 2007 Thread

[bartman]

OK, may as well start it off here.... Not one game close enough to trouble the new points system of 3 points for a win, 2 points for a draw, and 1 point for a narrow loss by 12 or less.


Northern Rail Cup 2007 – Weekend One (9-11 February) results:
(mostly taken off sky sports, hoping they can all be trusted...)

Barrow Raiders 44 V 4 Blackpool Panthers
Celtic Crusaders 6 V 56 Widnes Vikings
Doncaster Lakers 6 V 30 Castleford Tigers
Swinton Lions 38 V 20 Hunslet Hawks
Keighley Cougars 18 V 44 Halifax R.L.F.C.
Gateshead Thunder 12 V 58 York City Knights
Batley Bulldogs 6 V 49 Dewsbury Rams
Oldham 8 V 24 Rochdale Hornets
Workington Town 18 V 44 Whitehaven
London Skolars 8 V 52 Leigh Centurions
Featherstone Rovers 54 V 22 Sheffield Eagles
Hemel Stags 6 V 42 Bramley Buffaloes
Dewsbury Celtic 12 V 42 Warrington Wizards

Featherstone will be happy getting a win up over higher league rivals. Played over six rounds, not sure of how the quarter finals are decided, perhaps top two teams in groups 1-6, top team from conference group 7, and the best three remaining placed teams again?


Northern Rail Cup 2007 – Group Tables:

Group 1
Featherstone Rovers (NL2) P1 W1 F54 A22 Pts3
Castleford Tigers (NL1) P1 W1 F30 A6 Pts3
Doncaster Lakers (NL1) P1 L1 F6 A30 Pts0
Sheffield Eagles (NL1) P1 L1 F22 A54 Pts0

Group 2
York City Knights (NL2) P1 W1 F58 A12 Pts3
Halifax RLFC (NL1) P1 W1 F44 L18 Pts3
Keighley Cougars (NL2) P1 L1 F18 L44 Pts0
Gateshead Thunder (NL2) P1 L1 F12 A58 Pts0

Group 3 (also play one team in Group 4)
Dewsbury Rams (NL1) P1 W1 F49 A6 Pts3
Hunslet Hawks (NL2) P1 L1 F20 A38 Pts0
Batley Bulldogs (NL1) P1 L1 F6 A49 Pts0

Group 4 (also play one team in Group 3)
Swinton Lions (NL2) P1 W1 F38 A20 Pts3
Rochdale (NL1) P1 W1 F24 A8 Pts3
Oldham RLFC (NL2) P1 L1 F8 A24 Pts0

Group 5
Barrow Raiders (NL2) P1 W1 F44 A4 Pts3
Whitehaven (NL1) P1 W1 F44 A18 Pts3
Blackpool Panthers (NL2) P1 L1 F4 A44 Pts0
Workington Town (NL2) P1 L1 F18 A44 Pts0

Group 6
Widnes Vikings (NL1) P1 W1 F56 A6 Pts3
Leigh Centurions (NL1) P1 W1 F52 A8 Pts3
London Skolars (NL2) P1 L1 F8 A52 Pts0
Celtic Crusaders (NL2) P1 L1 F6 A56 Pts0

Group 7
Bramley Buffaloes (RLC) P1 W1 F42 A6 Pts3
Warrington Wizards (RLC) P1 W1 F42 A12 Pts3
Dewsbury Celtic (RLC) P1 L1 F12 A42 Pts0
Hemel Stags (RLC) P1 L1 F6 A42 Pts0

 

[Henson Park Hornets]

Apparently *ldham were very ordinary against Hornets but there was a half decent turn out at Borrowed Park of 1100. So there looks to be some life left in *ldham.
Hornets have lots of improvement left im them.

Great win for the Buffs too!

 

[bowes]

Yeah same format as last year

 

[roughyed8]

Apparently *ldham were very ordinary against Hornets but there was a half decent turn out at Borrowed Park of 1100. So there looks to be some life left in *ldham.
Hornets have lots of improvement left im them.

Great win for the Buffs too!

You have been reading the wrong reports HPH, with a bit more composure on finishing and with a regular goalkicker on the park it could have been a different story. 11 new players making debuts and only 1 recognised half back on the park it was a pretty good start against a side with 1st div playoff aspirations. Your pack got a bit of a touch up on the day especialy from Said Tamghard and Geno Costin, on top of the tonking you took from Hunslet you have a lot more to worry about than the Roughyeds, as for the crowd we all know that you at Rockdull hairnets would cream yourselves for numbers like that, if you had a season like we had last year your numbers would be more like 110 than 1100:lol:.
"nice ground no fans, nice ground no fans":music1:

 

[bartman]

Northern Rail Cup 2007 – Weekend Two (16-18 February) results:

Sheffield Eagles 18 - 20 Doncaster Dragons
Warrington Wizards 52 - 12 Hemel
Blackpool 18 - 32 Whitehaven
Bramley 32 - 12 Dewsbury Celtic
Castleford 48 - 10 Featherstone Rovers
Celtic Crusaders 44 - 28 London Skolars
Halifax 34 - 14 York
Hunslet 16 - 8 Dewsbury :shock:
Keighley 50 - 12 Gateshead
Oldham 18 - 28 Swinton
Rochdale 29 - 30 Batley
Widnes 34 - 20 Leigh
Workington Town 32 - Barrow 24

Northern Rail Cup 2007 – Group Tables (after weekend two):

Group 1
Castleford Tigers (NL1) P2 W2 F78 A16 Pts6
Featherstone Rovers (NL2) P2 W1 L1 F64 A70 Pts3
Doncaster Lakers (NL1) P2 W1 L1 F26 A48 Pts3
Sheffield Eagles (NL1) P2 L2 F40 A74 Pts1

Group 2
Halifax RLFC (NL1) P2 W2 F78 L32 Pts6
York City Knights (NL2) P2 W1 L1 F72 A46 Pts3
Keighley Cougars (NL2) P2 W1 L1 F68 L56 Pts3
Gateshead Thunder (NL2) P2 L2 F24 A108 Pts0

Group 3 (also play one team in Group 4)
Dewsbury Rams (NL1) P2 W1 L1 F57 A22 Pts4
Hunslet Hawks (NL2) P2 W1 L1 F36 A46 Pts3
Batley Bulldogs (NL1) P2 W1 L1 F36 A78 Pts3

Group 4 (also play one team in Group 3)
Swinton Lions (NL2) P2 W2 F66 A38 Pts6
Rochdale (NL1) P2 W1 L1 F53 A38 Pts4
Oldham RLFC (NL2) P2 L2 F26 A52 Pts1

Group 5
Whitehaven (NL1) P2 W2 F76 A36 Pts6
Barrow Raiders (NL2) P2 W1 L1 F68 A36 Pts4
Workington Town (NL2) P2 W1 L1 F50 A68 Pts3
Blackpool Panthers (NL2) P2 L2 F22 A76 Pts0

Group 6
Widnes Vikings (NL1) P2 W2 F90 A26 Pts6
Leigh Centurions (NL1) P2 W1 L1 F72 A42 Pts3
Celtic Crusaders (NL2) P2 W1 L1 F50 A84 Pts3
London Skolars (NL2) P2 L2 F36 A96 Pts0

Group 7
Warrington Wizards (RLC) P2 W2 F94 A24 Pts6
Bramley Buffaloes (RLC) P2 W2 F74 A18 Pts6
Dewsbury Celtic (RLC) P2 L2 F24 A74 Pts0
Hemel Stags (RLC) P2 L2 F18 A94 Pts0

Possible typos, please let me know...

 

[bartman]

A few wins to teams from the lower division.

Northern Rail Cup 2007 – Weekend Three (24-25 February) results:

Batley 16 - 18 Hunslet :shock:
Blackpool 24 - 34 Workington Town
Bramley 24 - 20 Warrington Wizards
Castleford 38 - 12 Sheffield
Dewsbury 32 - 22 Oldham
Featherstone 24 - 22 Doncaster :shock:
Gateshead 6 - 22 Halifax
Leigh 22 - 26 Celtic Crusaders :shock:
Swinton 14 - 40 Rochdale
Whitehaven 22 - 22 Barrow :shock:
Widnes 60 - 10 London Skolars
York 24 - 22 Keighley
Hemel v Dewsbury Celtic postponed (clashed with Challenge Cup match)

Northern Rail Cup 2007 – Group Tables (after weekend three):

Group 1
Castleford Tigers (NL1) P3 W3 F116 A28 Pts9
Featherstone Rovers (NL2) P3 W2 L1 F88 A92 Pts6
Doncaster Lakers (NL1) P3 W1 L2 F48 A72 Pts4
Sheffield Eagles (NL1) P3 L3 F52 A112 Pts1

Group 2
Halifax RLFC (NL1) P3 W3 F100 L38 Pts9
York City Knights (NL2) P3 W2 L1 F96 A68 Pts6
Keighley Cougars (NL2) P3 W1 L2 F90 L80 Pts4
Gateshead Thunder (NL2) P3 L3 F30 A130 Pts0

Group 3 (also play one team in Group 4)
Dewsbury Rams (NL1) P3 W2 L1 F89 A44 Pts7
Hunslet Hawks (NL2) P3 W2 L1 F54 A62 Pts6
Batley Bulldogs (NL1) P3 W1 L2 F52 A96 Pts4

Group 4 (also play one team in Group 3)
Rochdale (NL1) P3 W2 L1 F93 A52 Pts7
Swinton Lions (NL2) P3 W2 L1 F80 A78 Pts6
Oldham RLFC (NL2) P3 L3 F48 A84 Pts2

Group 5
Whitehaven (NL1) P3 W2 D1 F98 A58 Pts8
Barrow Raiders (NL2) P3 W1 D1 L1 F90 A58 Pts6
Workington Town (NL2) P3 W2 L1 F84 A96 Pts6
Blackpool Panthers (NL2) P3 L3 F50 A110 Pts1

Group 6
Widnes Vikings (NL1) P3 W3 F150 A36 Pts9
Celtic Crusaders (NL2) P3 W2 L1 F76 A106 Pts6
Leigh Centurions (NL1) P3 W1 L2 F94 A68 Pts4
London Skolars (NL2) P3 L3 F46 A156 Pts0

Group 7
Bramley Buffaloes (RLC) P3 W3 F98 A38 Pts9
Warrington Wizards (RLC) P3 W2 L1 F114 A48 Pts7
Dewsbury Celtic (RLC) P2 L2 F24 A74 Pts0
Hemel Stags (RLC) P2 L2 F18 A94 Pts0

 

[whatsdoing1982]

What is this Cup and where do they go after they win their pool. Please explain how it works.

 

[bartman]

No worries.

Under Super League are two divisions, called National League One and Two. At the moment there is still promotion and relegation between all these divisions - last year Castleford went down from Super League and Hull KR went up.

The National League seasons are shorter than Super League, so in their pre-season (before Easter) the teams play in the opening stages of this Cup compteition. Some teams from what is now the Rugby League (Summer) Conference also join them.

After these six weeks of home and away games in groups, the top two teams in most of the pools, plus the top one in the conference pool and the next three best teams stay in the Cup. The Round of 16, then the quarter finals, semi finals and finals are spaced out during the National League season proper, with teams having a weekend off while these games are played.

This is not to be confused with the Challenge Cup, which also features National League teams from Round Three onwards, but Super League teams as well. This is the sixth year of the National Cup, last year Leigh Centurions beat Hull Kingston Rovers to win it. The team that ends up promoted to Super League at the end of the season has always been either the winner or runner up in this cup each year it has been played.

 

[Phillips]

anyone know if Joel Penny is still playing with Halifax?

 

[bartman]

He's moved on to Doncaster Lakers this year Phillips. http://www.donrl.com/website/penny.html

Had his first game last weekend: http://www.donrl.com/website/25207.html

 

[Phillips]

He's moved on to Doncaster Lakers this year Phillips. http://www.donrl.com/website/penny.html

Had his first game last weekend: http://www.donrl.com/website/25207.html

thanks for that

looks like im now a Doncaster fan

 

[whatsdoing1982]

No worries.

Under Super League are two divisions, called National League One and Two. At the moment there is still promotion and relegation between all these divisions - last year Castleford went down from Super League and Hull KR went up.

The National League seasons are shorter than Super League, so in their pre-season (before Easter) the teams play in the opening stages of this Cup compteition. Some teams from what is now the Rugby League (Summer) Conference also join them.

After these six weeks of home and away games in groups, the top two teams in most of the pools, plus the top one in the conference pool and the next three best teams stay in the Cup. The Round of 16, then the quarter finals, semi finals and finals are spaced out during the National League season proper, with teams having a weekend off while these games are played.

This is not to be confused with the Challenge Cup, which also features National League teams from Round Three onwards, but Super League teams as well. This is the sixth year of the National Cup, last year Leigh Centurions beat Hull Kingston Rovers to win it. The team that ends up promoted to Super League at the end of the season has always been either the winner or runner up in this cup each year it has been played.

Thanks this helps heaps. So it is pretty much a Club Challenge without the Super League teams. Is this correct???

 

[bartman]

Thanks this helps heaps. So it is pretty much a Club Challenge without the Super League teams. Is this correct???

Sorry WD82, missed your comment. Yes, thats basically correct, without most of the 54 amateur teams that start the Challenge Cup too.

 

[bartman]

No real surprises this weekend, not many changes in the tables. Leigh stopping Widnes' undefeaed run.

Northern Rail Cup 2007 – Weekend Four (2-4 March) results:

Barrow Raiders 36 - 12 Workington
Dewsbury Celtic 24 - 26 Bramley
Dewsbury Rams 24 - 6 Batley Bulldogs
Doncaster Lakers 12 - 20 Sheffield Eagles
Featherstone Rovers 16 - 22 Castleford Tigers
Halifax 52 - 4 Keighley Cougars
Hemel 22 - 10 Warrington Wizards
Hunslet Hawks 10 - 10 Swinton Lions
Leigh Centurions 24 - 8 Widnes Vikings
London Skolars 4 - 28 Celtic Crusaders
Rochdale Hornets 16 - 6 Oldham
Whitehaven 62 - 0 Blackpool Panthers
York City Knights 46 - 4 Gateshead Thunder

Northern Rail Cup 2007 – Group Tables (after weekend four):

Two weekends left to play, teams in bold are safely through to the qualifying round of 16 already. Tables may have typos...

Group 1
Castleford Tigers (NL1) P4 W4 F138 A44 Pts12 - in final 16
Featherstone Rovers (NL2) P4 W2 L2 F104 A114 Pts7
Doncaster Lakers (NL1) P4 W1 L3 F60 A92 Pts5
Sheffield Eagles (NL1) P4 W1 L3 F72 A124 Pts4

Group 2
Halifax RLFC (NL1) P4 W4 F152 L42 Pts12 - in final 16
York City Knights (NL2) P4 W3 L1 F142 A72 Pts9
Keighley Cougars (NL2) P4 W1 L3 F94 L132 Pts4
Gateshead Thunder (NL2) P4 L4 F34 A176 Pts0 - cannot make it through to final 16

Group 3 (also play one team in Group 4)
Dewsbury Rams (NL1) P4 W3 L1 F113 A50 Pts10
Hunslet Hawks (NL2) P4 W2 D1 L1 F64 A72 Pts8
Batley Bulldogs (NL1) P4 W1 L3 F58 A120 Pts4

Group 4 (also play one team in Group 3)
Rochdale (NL1) P4 W3 L1 F109 A58 Pts10
Swinton Lions (NL2) P4 W2 D1 L1 F90 A88 Pts8
Oldham RLFC (NL2) P4 L4 F54 A100 Pts3

Group 5
Whitehaven (NL1) P4 W3 D1 F160 A58 Pts11
Barrow Raiders (NL2) P4 W2 D1 L1 F126 A70 Pts9
Workington Town (NL2) P4 W2 L2 F96 A132 Pts6
Blackpool Panthers (NL2) P4 L4 F50 A172 Pts1 - cannot make it through to final 16

Group 6
Widnes Vikings (NL1) P4 W3 L1 F158 A60 Pts9
Celtic Crusaders (NL2) P4 W3 L1 F104 A110 Pts9
Leigh Centurions (NL1) P4 W2 L2 F118 A76 Pts7
London Skolars (NL2) P4 L4 F50 A184 Pts0 - cannot make it through to final 16

Group 7
Bramley Buffaloes (RLC) P4 W4 F124 A62 Pts12 - in final 16 (will be one of three best placed remaining clubs, if not top of their group)
Warrington Wizards (RLC) P4 W2 L2 F124 A70 Pts8
Hemel Stags (RLC) P3 W1 L2 F40 A104 Pts3
Dewsbury Celtic (RLC) P3 L3 F48 A100 Pts1
(Postponed Hemel v Dewsbury Celtic match to be played Sun 11 March 2:30pm)

Next round of games played 16-18 March

 

[bartman]

Northern Rail Cup 2007 – postponed Weekend Three result:

Hemel 50 - 18 Dewsbury Rams, er... Celtic (played 11.3)

Northern Rail Cup 2007 – Revised Group Table (after weekend four):

Group 7
Bramley Buffaloes (RLC) P4 W4 F124 A62 Pts12 - in final 16 (will be one of three best placed remaining clubs, if not top of their group)
Warrington Wizards (RLC) P4 W2 L2 F124 A70 Pts8
Hemel Stags (RLC) P4 W2 L2 F90 A122 Pts6
Dewsbury Celtic (RLC) P4 L4 F66 A140 Pts1

Next round of games (Weekend Five) played 16-18 March

 

[langpark]

Hemel 50 - 18 Dewsbury Rams (played 11.3)

You do mean dewsbury celtic don't you?

 

[bartman]

:lol: Yep, cheers for that.

 

[bartman]

Northern Rail Cup 2007 – Weekend Five (15-17 March) results:

Barrow Raiders 6 – 16 Whitehaven
Sheffield Eagles 6 – 44 Castleford Tigers
Dewsbury Celtic 44 – 22 Warrington Wizards
Bramley 36 – 8 Hemel
Celtic Crusaders 22 – 14 Leigh Centurions
Doncaster Lakers 18 – 18 Featherstone Rovers
Halifax 30 – 8 Gateshead Thunder
Keighley Cougars 12 – 26 York City Knights
London Skolars 0 – 66 Widnes Vikings
Oldham 8 – 32 Dewsbury Rams
Rochdale Hornets 42 – 10 Swinton Lions
Workington Town 28 – 20 Blackpool
Hunslet Hawks 4 – 32 Batley Bulldogs

Definitely through to the qualifying round of sixteen so far are:

• Castleford (NL1)
• Halifax (NL1)
• Bramley (RLC)
• Whitehaven (NL1)
• Dewsbury (NL1)
• Rochdale (NL1)
• Widnes (NL1)
• York (NL2)
• Celctic Crusaders (NL2)
• Swinton Lions (NL2)

The following six spots in the qualifying round are still open to be decided next week:

• 2nd place in Group One (Featherstone or Doncaster)
• 2nd place in Group Three (Hunslet or Batley, the one point for a close loss and points differential may come into play)
• 2nd place in Group Five (Barrow or Workington Town)
• Next best 3 place-getters (Barrow/Workington Town, Leigh, Warrington Wizards, Featherstone/Doncaster, Hunslet/Batley and Hemel Stags all technically still in contention)

So the games where the result will matter next weekend are:

• Sheffield v Featherstone
• Castleford v Doncaster
• Dewsbury Rams v Hunslet
• Batley v Rochdale
• Blackpool v Barrow
• Whitehaven v Workington Town
• Leigh v London Skolars
• Warrington Wizards v Bramley
• Dewsbury Celtic v Hemel

Some good performances by lower division teams throughout this stage... Featherstone and Celtic Crsuaders out-performing NL1 sides. Some reasons to worry perhaps for Sheffield, Doncater and Leigh?

 

[bartman]

Northern Rail Cup 2007 – Group Tables (after weekend five):

One match left to play, teams in bold are safely through to the qualifying round of 16 already, teams with an asterisk * still have a chance of making it through. Warning, tables may have typos or calculation errors...

Group 1
Castleford Tigers (NL1) P5 W5 F182 A50 Pts15 – definitely in final 16
* Featherstone Rovers (NL2) P5 W2 D1 L2 F122 A132 Pts9
* Doncaster Lakers (NL1) P5 W1 D1 L3 F78 A110 Pts7
Sheffield Eagles (NL1) P5 W1 L4 F78 A168 Pts4

Next week: Sheffield v Featherstone, Castleford v Doncaster

Group 2
Halifax RLFC (NL1) P5 W5 F182 L50 Pts15 – definitely in final 16
York City Knights (NL2) P5 W4 L1 F168 A84 Pts12 – definitely in final 16
Keighley Cougars (NL2) P5 W1 L4 F106 L156 Pts4
Gateshead Thunder (NL2) P5 L5 F42 A206 Pts0

Next week: York v Halifax, Gateshead v Keighley

Group 3 (also play against a team in Group 4)
Dewsbury Rams (NL1) P5 W4 L1 F145 A58 Pts13 – definitely in final 16
* Hunslet Hawks (NL2) P5 W2 D1 L2 F68 A104 Pts8
* Batley Bulldogs (NL1) P5 W2 L3 F90 A124 Pts7

Next week: Dewsbury v Hunslet, Batley v Rochdale

Group 4 (also play against a team in Group 3)
Rochdale (NL1) P5 W4 L1 F151 A68 Pts13 – definitely in final 16
Swinton Lions (NL2) P5 W2 D1 L2 F100 A130 Pts8 – definitely in final 16
Oldham RLFC (NL2) P5 L5 F62 A132 Pts3

Next week: Swinton v Oldham

Group 5
Whitehaven (NL1) P5 W4 D1 F176 A64 Pts14 – definitely in final 16
* Barrow Raiders (NL2) P5 W2 D1 L2 F132 A86 Pts10
* Workington Town (NL2) P5 W3 L2 F124 A1152 Pts9
Blackpool Panthers (NL2) P5 L5 F70 A200 Pts2

Next week: Blackpool v Barrow, Whitehaven v Workington Town

Group 6
Widnes Vikings (NL1) P5 W4 L1 F224 A60 Pts12 – definitely in final 16
Celtic Crusaders (NL2) P5 W4 L1 F126 A124 Pts12 – definitely in final 16
* Leigh Centurions (NL1) P5 W2 L3 F132 A98 Pts8
London Skolars (NL2) P5 L5 F50 A250 Pts0

Next week: Leigh v London Skolars, Widnes v Celtic Crusaders

Group 7
Bramley Buffaloes (RLC) P5 W5 F160 A70 Pts15 – definitely in final 16
* Warrington Wizards (RLC) P5 W2 L3 F146 A114 Pts8
* Hemel Stags (RLC) P5 W2 L3 F98 A158 Pts6
Dewsbury Celtic (RLC) P5 W1 L4 F110 A162 Pts4

Next week: Warrington v Bramley, Dewsbury Celtic v Hemel

 

[bartman]

Groups Stages - Round Six results (played 23-25 March)

Sheffield Eagles 32 - 8 Featherstone Rovers (Fri)
Warrington Wizards 24 - 44 Bramley Buffaloes (Sat)
Dewsbury Celtic 32 - 8 Hemel Stags (Sat)
Castleford 64 - 8 Doncaster
York 20 - 60 Halifax
Gateshead 26 - 30 Keighley
Dewsbury 83 - 6 Hunslet
Batley 10 - 13 Rochdale (apparently the goalposts fell down, delaying the game for 30 mins...)
Swinton 18 - 42 Oldham
Blackpool 22 - 78 Barrow
Whitehaven 58 - 12 Workington Town
Leigh 60 - 22 London Skolars
Widnes 32 - 10 Celtic Crusaders