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NOT AGAIN!! Tim drinking already??/ Suspended indefinitely

stuke

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parra pete said:
What is his Manager getting his 6% for.
Why is it up to the Club to hold their 'supposedly' professional footballer hands.

well for one, it is in the clubs best interests to ensure that their players are at their peak physically and mentally. as well he represents the club and their sponsors so they need to have him represent them in a manner that they see fit that is conducive to the betterment of the club.

yeah his manager should be looking out for him too....but surely the club has obligations to the player.
 

fish eel

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parra pete said:
What is his Manager getting his 6% for.
Why is it up to the Club to hold their 'supposedly' professional footballer hands.

Indeed. I mentioned his manager had some responsibility earlier.

But what have the club done?

I dont know. But I would suggest that any counselling or whatever other help may or may not have been offered by the club could have been considered as between Tim, the club and his family, hence we have never read about it.

To not sack him now and offer him help, or more help, admits one of 2 things, either it's an admittance we've dropped the ball previously or we don't have the balls to sack him.

Sorry Tim, too may chances. One week after the last one tells me he is treating the club and fans with contempt. See ya.
 

Stagger eel

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hindmarsh4pm said:
some have reported they saw him at another pub

that may be so..

we'll just have to see what comes out in the wash tomorrow, but i don't have a good feeling about it all.
 

emjaycee

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This is part of one of the stories on wwos.ninemsn.com.au

"... Eels coach Michael Hagan said Smith knew he had a drinking problem and would undergo counselling as part of his punishment for harassing a Sydney grandfather.

"Tim admitted he has a problem with alcohol and will continue to have counselling sessions with a leading specialist in alcohol-related behaviour," Hagan said in last week's statement...

Source: http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=327979

So maybe the club has been helping him with dealing with the problem.
 

Dutchy

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I see this as a blessing for the future of Eels.

1 less dickhead.
Room under cap to keep INU
Promotion of Keating. Long term better option. Will be much better than Smith will ever be.
Use what money is left to get another decent bench prop.
 

hineyrulz

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Dutchy said:
I see this as a blessing for the future of Eels.

1 less dickhead.
Room under cap to keep INU
Promotion of Keating. Long term better option. Will be much better than Smith will ever be.
Use what money is left to get another decent bench prop.
You could be right mate. It's just a shame to see someone letting his talent go to waste.
 

Stagger eel

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Dutchy said:
I see this as a blessing for the future of Eels.

1 less dickhead.
Room under cap to keep INU
Promotion of Keating. Long term better option. Will be much better than Smith will ever be.
Use what money is left to get another decent bench prop.

you could be right Dutchy, but you'd have to appreciate that we're all pretty cut up about it at the moment, he's been at our club and part of our system for about 6 years now and we're finding it hard to swallow..

the old one door closes another one opens theory is all well and good for the long term but we're all just sitting here shaking our heads at the moment. :?
 

Twizzle

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hineyrulz said:
You could be right mate. It's just a shame to see someone letting his talent go to waste.

I have mixed felings about Tim's talent

he has been hot and cold, and I cant help but think he has been cold when he has been on the drink

if this were Hindy I would be devistated, but I'm not

whatever happens I support the clubs decision
 

COACH STERLING

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I didn't realise having a beer was a sackable offense.

It looks like no one really knows what he did wrong either, so I'm going to say the poor bloke is guilty of having a beer and nothing else. If thats a sackable offense, then lets get rid of the lot of them!!
 

hineyrulz

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Twizzle said:
I have mixed felings about Tim's talent

he has been hot and cold, and I cant help but think he has been cold when he has been on the drink

if this were Hindy I would be devistated, but I'm not

whatever happens I support the clubs decision
True mate, but after this latest episode i think he just showed a lack of repect for the club and it's fans. If they decide to let him go then so be it.

If it was hindy i would be reaching for a rope.
 

Stagger eel

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Twizzle said:
I have mixed felings about Tim's talent

he has been hot and cold, and I cant help but think he has been cold when he has been on the drink

if this were Hindy I would be devistated, but I'm not

whatever happens I support the clubs decision

there's a reason why Hindy has played 1000 games for NSW and Australia..it's called dedication and committment.

it's something that alot of young footballers are lacking these days.
 

Twizzle

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hineyrulz said:
True mate, but after this latest episode i think he just showed a lack of repect for the club and it's fans. If they decide to let him go then so be it.

If it was hindy i would be reaching for a rope.

it may be a slap in the face, or it maybe huge personal problems that we are not aware of
 

TheParraboy

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COACH STERLING said:
I didn't realise having a beer was a sackable offense.

It looks like no one really knows what he did wrong either, so I'm going to say the poor bloke is guilty of having a beer and nothing else.

:lol:
 

johnkolc

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I have mixed feelings on this. Feel we have given him enough chances and if he did do what has been alleged then it will have been his own fault if he gets booted.

But what if the club decides to go for the 'humanitarian' angle and try to help him out further (maybe including a suspension, hefty fine and some everyday work a la Carney). This would, as has been noted in other posts, be helping the individual rather than cutting him adrift and prevent him from simply going to another club on a possibly larger contract and being rewarded further for a series of indiscretions.

As far as I can tell, to do that the club would have to explain why they didn't sack someone on their second 'last' chance who it would appear either has an alcohol problem, is particularly dense, or a combination of both. And the only way to explain away a second 'last' chance would be to admit that the lenient punishment dished out last week was way too weak. In other words the club would have to admit it got something wrong, and in the interests of both the club and the player, will be coming down on him far harder this time, but not tearing up his contract.

Whether or not our club (and indeed particularly Fitzy) are willing to publicly admit that they were wrong remains to be seen.
 
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