Didnt read the thread, but 4 weeks, $100k fine.
Base minimum.
Is there a case in point example of a "deregistered" player signing OS while a "banned" player has not ?
Who is the player who has been banned that wasn't allowed to play in the ESL?Todd Carney went to ESL didnt he?
No it doesn’t. Every case is different. Take Brett Stewart for instance. Anyone with half a fking brain knew he was innocent and Gallop suspended him. Now Gallop is fking Football in Australia.B, and do away with this "deregistered" BS. Impose a ban, be it time related or for life.
Lets have some really clear (lol) framework with penalties accordingly. Every case on its merits just leads to massive inconsistency and stinks of favouritism to certain players or clubs.
I thought the thread title said the 'LU penalty' - if that's the case, 4 weeks confined to the 4 corners forum for major offences, 4 weeks confined to the NRL forum for mid range stuff, 4 weeks with no ignore function for anything else.
B.
However all players should have their contracts with the NRL and not clubs, which would take vested interest out of the equation.
It would also help better manage salary caps.
Each club has a set cap to utilise for buying their squad with. Once the club agrees to a salary and term with the player, it is sent to the NRL who then process it and adjust the remaining cap accordingly.
Regarding off-field drama, as they are an NRL employee, the NRL should stand them down until the matter is ajudicated upon. A guilty verdict would mean a suspension of game via a pre-determined scale.
Ie - speeding charges are not equivalent to domestic assault, so they have different penalties.
I do not see any line of deliniation. Deregistering is a clear sign to English to act in concert with the NRL & disallow that person to play
NRL can do that if it's part of their company policy.
Player will be stood down from playing but still receive their salary.
Of course in some cases that deregistration is forced on the player, but that does not stop them from signing for a SL club.
It does if the English RFL choose to not register him there. They can do that based on a ban, on a deregiatration, or maybe even just a phone call from Tod. In this Barba case, the English RFL seems to have said as much in the press here yesterday, prior to the actual announcement of T Greenburgs ban.
So I dont disagree with much of what you say in that post, however all am simply trying to point out is that the deregistration can potentially be exactly the same thing in practice as a ban.
Yep like I said it is discretionary, where as a ban is not.
I'll have a look tonight but I recall an incident where a person was stood down from their job because they had resigned but had to stay until the end of a rather long contract period They were still being paid. A court ruled that this would significantly impact their future employment because they would lose experience that allowed them to remain relevant in a highly dynamic industry. I suspect the same argument could be made for a player stood down for an extended period while a court case played out. Stewart for example would have been out of the game for 18 months if this was put in place. It sounds good in theory when people get their day in court quickly but these things can drag out and it would not be fair on someone ultimately found not guilty.Paying the player their salary would mitigate some risk but i don't see how you can have a situation where players are stood down on charges alone especially in the case of DV. It wouldn't take long until an allegation is made up purely to hurt their career.
Why?
DUI equals += X amount of games
Drunken and disorderly behaviour = X amount of games
Serious criminal charge = life ban
etc
By all means have a right of appeal but have some grading system, it wont be perfect but it will be better than BS we have right now where someone like GI not only isnt severely punished but gets a reference from the NRL CEO to get him off a conviction, or a serious crim like Lodge gets back in because he did some courses whilst someone like Pearce or Carney gets hammered for stupid non criminal behavior whilst on the turps
The games spending $3.4million a year on the IU, surely they can do better than we have at the moment?