Nrl plans for a 20 team comp

[Gordie]

Look to the NFL for their top tier strategy

NFL runs 32 teams

Population of the U.S. is 330 million.

 

[siv]

In a population of 330 million.

And we ran 10 team comp with 3 grades in the 1950 when the population was 8 million

So?

 

[Perth Red]

Look to the NFL for their top tier strategy

NFL runs 32 teams

In a country of 350mill people!
going to be interesting to see if 20 teams is sustainable or not

 

[Wb1234]

Yes but jumping from 8 games to sell straight into 10 might actually be detrimental to grabbing the actual value that it’s worth and can get. It’ll be easier and smarter to negotiate 9 games as that’s the next up above the current 8 games.

Game 10 will be worth more after the deal than before it. Might be the difference between $100m and $300m tbh.

Reports say team 20 is 2030 which is in the next tv deals time frame

They may delay it until the next tv deal but it’s leaving money on the table from sky nz and misses out on the new stadium being completed in Chch and the boom in league in nz

 

[Perth Red]

Reports say team 20 is 2030 which is in the next tv deals time frame

They may delay it until the next tv deal but it’s leaving money on the table from sky nz and misses out on the new stadium being completed in Chch and the boom in league in nz

when you consider that club 18 and 19 (if rumours are to be believed) have largely been accepted on the back of significant govt funding makes you wonder what criteria they will use for club 20.

 

[Wb1234]

when you consider that club 18 and 19 (if rumours are to be believed) have largely been accepted on the back of significant govt funding makes you wonder what criteria they will use for club 20.

It’ll be nz

Which bid is the question ?

Or perhaps a merger

What can the qld govt offer to trump it?

Rebuild Suncorp to 70k would be the only thing that might do it

Tbh I’m starting to think about teams 21 to 24 since the others seem locked in

 

[Gordie]

It’ll be nz

Which bid is the question ?

Or perhaps a merger

What can the qld govt offer to trump it?

Rebuild Suncorp to 70k would be the only thing that might do it

Tbh I’m starting to think about teams 21 to 24 since the others seem locked in

Hope you’re right but the rich Queensland cup teams like the tigers and jets will be formidable opponents.

could a South Island NZ team match that?

 

[Red&BlackBear]

Reports say team 20 is 2030 which is in the next tv deals time frame

They may delay it until the next tv deal but it’s leaving money on the table from sky nz and misses out on the new stadium being completed in Chch and the boom in league in nz

Not really. Sky doesn’t pay a great deal in the grand scheme of things compared to 9 or Fox. Furthermore if the NRL were all in 100% on potential NZ2 there would be way more FTA Warriors games than what we currently get.

I get the whole time zone thing. But considering their season in 2023 and their general support, Warriors only get minimal games on at prime time. Meaning broadcasters that pay the big bucks aren’t seeing the true value of them and if they’re not seeing a true value on them then I doubt Sky numbers compare anywhere near to Channel 9 or Fox/Kayo. Meaning if they aren’t all in on Warriors being on prime time selling spots then why would they be on NZ2.

Don’t get me wrong I’m all for NZ2 but the data we have seen isn’t supporting the case that the stakeholders have as much of an appetite for it right now as what some fans have.

I still think team #20 will be NZ2 but Sky won’t play much of a part in the ARLC choosing them. I think it’ll be based on what I posted before.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

And we ran 10 team comp with 3 grades in the 1950 when the population was 8 million

So?

So that was 70 years ago and the game was semi professional at best.

Dream big but let's not go kookoo crazy.

 

[Perth Red]

It’ll be nz

Which bid is the question ?

Or perhaps a merger

What can the qld govt offer to trump it?

Rebuild Suncorp to 70k would be the only thing that might do it

Tbh I’m starting to think about teams 21 to 24 since the others seem locked in

new stadium at Ipswich?

 

[Gordie]

And we ran 10 team comp with 3 grades in the 1950 when the population was 8 million

So?

So without the talent pool the competition gets watered down.

 

[Wb1234]

Hope you’re right but the rich Queensland cup teams like the tigers and jets will be formidable opponents.

could a South Island NZ team match that?

Jets are broke
Think east’s will merge with them

One has cash other has the growth coridoor

Think Brisbane 3 will be team 21

Chch will also play at the stadium in Dunedin so two amazing stadia

Plus they help the nz tv deal

 

[Red&BlackBear]

Reports say team 20 is 2030 which is in the next tv deals time frame

They may delay it until the next tv deal but it’s leaving money on the table from sky nz and misses out on the new stadium being completed in Chch and the boom in league in nz

Current broadcast deal ends in 2027.

Team 18 and 19 will get announced prior and game 9 will be used to further rise the value of the product for next negotiations.

Team 20 or game 10 in my opinion, will get negotiated after 2027 and the next deal is done. That’s not to say a clause for game 10 rising the existing deal at that time won’t be in the contract.

 

[Red&BlackBear]

Jets are broke
Think east’s will merge with them

One has cash other has the growth coridoor

Think Brisbane 3 will be team 21

Chch will also play at the stadium in Dunedin so two amazing stadia

Plus they help the nz tv deal

I strongly doubt Easts will merge with Jets. There’s a myriad of reasons why. I actually think QRL will block any potential merger regardless if it’s for NRL. I explained it in another post in the Brisbane 3 thread.

 

[Perth Red]

Not really. Sky doesn’t pay a great deal in the grand scheme of things. Furthermore if the NRL were all in 100% on NZ there would be way more FTA Warriors games we get.

I get the whole time zone thing. But considering their season in 2023 and their general support Warriors only get minimal games at prime time. Meaning broadcasters that pay the big bucks aren’t seeing the true value and if they’re not seeing a true value then I doubt Sky numbers compare anywhere near to Channel 9 or Fox/Kayo.

I’m all for NZ2 but the data we have seen isn’t supporting the case that the stakeholders have as much of an appetite for it as what some fans have.

Australian tv pays 92% of the tv deal, and warriors rate amongst the lowest clubs. Short of SkyNZ offering silly money I dont think the business case for NZ2 stacks up as well as some on here think.

Monetary aside they should absolutely be club 20, but Vlandys is money driven and unless the $'s are there its unlikely they get in. NRl has shown a disregard and lack of interest in NZ up to now. Will things change?

 

[Wb1234]

Australian tv pays 92% of the tv deal, and warriors rate amongst the lowest clubs. Short of SkyNZ offering silly money I dont think the business case for NZ2 stacks up as well as some on here think.

Monetary aside they should absolutely be club 20, but Vlandys is money driven and unless the $'s are there its unlikely they get in.

Going for 3 out of 3

 

[Red&BlackBear]

Australian tv pays 92% of the tv deal, and warriors rate amongst the lowest clubs. Short of SkyNZ offering silly money I dont think the business case for NZ2 stacks up as well as some on here think.

Monetary aside they should absolutely be club 20, but Vlandys is money driven and unless the $'s are there it’s unlikely they get in. NRl has shown a disregard and lack of interest in NZ up to now. Will things change?

They rate the lowest because they tend to constantly get the lousiest time slots. I feel like 6pm Friday, 3pm Saturday and 2pm Sunday aren’t exactly the time slots clubs hope for each season tbh.

There is context to the stats and numbers we harp on about. Without that context it’s hard to get the full picture really.

 

[RedVee]

So, if Bears and PNG are next.
Is there a pause before the next lot of teams that take us to 22?
Maybe NZ2, Bris3 and Fiji (Aus Gov support) fall into these slots over a period of time.

 

[Wb1234]

So, if Bears and PNG are next.
Is there a pause before the next lot of teams that take us to 22?
Maybe NZ2, Bris3 and Fiji (Aus Gov support) fall into this slots over a period of time.

Plus Adelaide

 

[Gordie]

Plus Adelaide

Relocated team.

sharks perhaps ?