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NRL set to introduce New Zealand Maori clash with Indigenous All Stars

McLovin

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Can't wait for the Caucasian war dance :cool:

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The Great Dane

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Instead of one team picked based on race, we are now going to have 2.

Sounds like a sensational plan.

I look forward to future expansion where we have the Caucasian heritage side added to make it a tri series.

TBF the Maori aren't a race they're a cultural group, but I see you point and an e.g. English heritage team instead of a Caucasian team would be just as taboo I reckon...

Can't wait for the Caucasian war dance :cool:

LOL.

Be careful what you wish for... Many European war dances and/or war preparation ceremonies were brutal crazy shit.

They were like the death metal to the haka's pop music lol...
 

shiznit

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f**king love this...

Being Maori I will definitely get up for this.

Only issue I can see could be passion may go overboard...

We can get abit crazy when it comes to cultural things... hopefully it will be played in the right spirit.
 

shiznit

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I wonder who the Maori coach will be??

The only current first grade coach I can think of is Mooksy(Kearney).

Funnily enough though I think Laurie Dailey who’s the Indigenous sides coach is married to a Maori I think.

Is Stacey Jones still an assistant at the Warriors??

Wayne Bennett would be one id throw in... although he’s coaching England.

He’s not Maori but he seemed to really embrace the cultural aspect when he was in Kiwis camp.

Whatever they do I hope they do it like the Maori All Blacks. Where they take them to a marae and teach them about their whakapapa(genealogy) and their hapu and iwi(tribe).

I’ve seen nothing more powerful in life than a kid who’s never been around his heritage before learn about their family history and culture and their local Haka and Waiata(songs).

Especially in this day and age where a lot of our Whanau(family) have moved over to Australia for better opportunities so their kids are Maori but born and bred Aussie’s.

And it’s perfectly fine to be both.

The big issue I have with the Maori All Blacks are that they aren’t a true Maori team as the Maori playing in Australia were never allowed to play.... that won’t be the case here which is great.
 

carcharias

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How black does one need the be to be eligible?
% wise.

I’d hate to see Barry smith the ginger with freckles get a gig on account of some long lost distant relo.
 

LineBall

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If you think your skin colour = heritage your a f**ken idiot

True, but if a Maori couple adopted an albino caucasian, it would look kinda weird if he ran out for the Maori team. Not that there's anything wrong with that...
 

kdalymc

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True, but if a Maori couple adopted an albino caucasian, it would look kinda weird if he ran out for the Maori team. Not that there's anything wrong with that...
I don’t there will be anyone who was adopted playing... and I would say you need heritage. 1/8 should be the max
 

shiznit

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How black does one need the be to be eligible?
% wise.

I’d hate to see Barry smith the ginger with freckles get a gig on account of some long lost distant relo.
The whole emphasis of blood quantum is nonsense.

It’s a bullshit tool that colonisers use to assimilate the indigenous into the mainstream.

I can only speak for Maori but in Maoridom how much blood you have and what type of blood has nothing to do with being Maori.

Being Maori is about your Whakapapa(genealogy). Obviously if you have whakapapa that links to someone Maori than you would technically have that blood I guess... but whether your Whakapapa links right, right back to a great, great, great, great grandparent or you link back to your parents... your considered Maori.

Both my parents are Maori, Dad is Maori on both sides and my mum is Maori through my grandmother.

My mum is considered no less Maori than my dad.

As for how someone’s looks... my kids are very fair skinned with light colour hair... my youngest is almost blonde... but they are all fluent Maori speakers and go through Kohanga(Maori Early Childhood) and Kura Kaupapa(Total immersion Maori school) so while they don’t look like what most people would consider as Maori but they are about as Maori as you can get.
 

kdalymc

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Yep. My friend is white, but his dad is full blown aboriginal. When someone asks him “how aboriginal” he is, he says it’s in his fists...
 

shiznit

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True, but if a Maori couple adopted an albino caucasian, it would look kinda weird if he ran out for the Maori team. Not that there's anything wrong with that...
That’s completely normal. We have an indigenous concept called Whaangai which is basically a form of adoption where someone takes care of a child who cant be cared for by the parents. This usually done within the Whanau(family) but I’ve seen it done a few times with pacific island kids and caucasian kids.

Once these kids are Whaangai’d by a Maori Whanau they can link their Whakapapa(genealogy) to that Whanau and they will be considered as Maori as anyone else... even their children.
 

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