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NRL's growth mindset points to 18th team. And it ain't Perth.

MugaB

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PNG?!?

The NRL have Perth knocking on their door, Norths sniffing at any opportunity they can chase, Brisbane bids that could have a tilt at a spot (including the rejected bids from the last "beauty contest"), and NZ 2 and Adelaide (no active bid, but fertile ground to take the battle to Super Rugby & AFL respectively)...

...and you say the frontrunner for team 18 is PNG?!?

Surely some mistake...
Nope no mistake, there is no perth bid, other than bears hooking up with WA govt, Same as NZ, Adelaide is a waste of time, theyre not even playing RL, NRL doesn't want another SEQ team, not yet anyways, NRL also doesn't want anymore NSW based franchises....
PNG is the only bid current....
or Bears or Easts could move to WA,SA,NZ
 

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Nope no mistake, there is no perth bid, other than bears hooking up with WA govt, Same as NZ, Adelaide is a waste of time, theyre not even playing RL, NRL doesn't want another SEQ team, not yet anyways, NRL also doesn't want anymore NSW based franchises....
PNG is the only bid current....
or Bears or Easts could move to WA,SA,NZ
lol, of course there isnt. There are no bids as the NRL hasnt called for them, hasnt said which areas it will call for bids from and hasnt set out a bid criteria. There are only interested parties who have said they are interrested in bidding if they have an opportunity. So far that includes:
PNG
Perth 1 (Cummins)
Perth2 (Puddy)
Perth3 (Sage)
Chalmers for NZ2
THE Bears
and possibly the 2 failed bids in Brisbane

At this point in time we have confirmation from PNG, Bears and the Perth consortium below they are wanting to bid if there is opportunity. That's not to say others wont appear when the NRL decides where.

 
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lol, of course there isnt. There are no bids as the NRL hasnt called for them, hasnt said which areas it will call for bids from and hasnt set out a bid criteria. There are only interested parties who have said they are interrested in bidding if they have an opportunity. So far that includes:
PNG
Perth 1 (Cummins)
Perth2 (Puddy)
Perth3 (Sage)
Chalmers for NZ2
THE Bears
and possibly the 2 failed bids in Brisbane

At this point in time we have confirmation from PNG, Bears and the Perth consortium below they are wanting to bid if there is opportunity. That's not to say others wont appear when the NRL decides where.

Paywall.
 

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Can only be a good thing for RL, Warriors and a potential 2nd NZ team down the line. 25K with option to increase to 30K
A lot of money for a small city to spend on a stadium but will be a nice facility when finished. Hopefully some clubs will take games there when done.
 

MugaB

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A lot of money for a small city to spend on a stadium but will be a nice facility when finished. Hopefully some clubs will take games there when done.
Too much money spent on this stadium NOT to have more tenants here, it must done deal somewhere for an NRL team to be based there already
 

Colk

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Yes but only them... need way more than juat om tennant for that much spent on it, plus skynz boosting their spend on broadcast rights, you'd think there's definitely something happening there

I think there will eventually be a second team in NZ and that will be a good thing in the long term.

There is a lot of work to be done with the Warriors and pathways first though
 

MugaB

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Warriors should be given an extra $1m to play with in their salary cap to compete with the Australian clubs for players.
f**k your dumb... the whole point of a salary cap is to keep the comp even, and mostly to make sure clubs don't overspend beyond their means, you give the warriors an extra mil, then titans will want some too, then it'll be the tigers, when does it stop?
 
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f**k your dumb... the whole point of a salary cap is to keep the comp even, and mostly to make sure clubs don't overspend beyond their means, you give earriors an extra mil, then titans will want some too, then it'll be the tigers, when does it stop?

I don’t know about extra money on the salary cap but maybe they need extra money with establishing better junior pathways, particularly as they haven’t had that since COVID.

I think the Warriors and in future a second NZ side really need to find ways to keep the best talent from NZ - the fact that the Warriors are having to recruit from Australia is exactly the problem
 

MugaB

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I don’t know about extra money on the salary cap but maybe they need extra money with establishing better junior pathways, particularly as they haven’t had that since COVID.

I think the Warriors and in future a second NZ side really need to find ways to keep the best talent from NZ - the fact that the Warriors are having to recruit from Australia is exactly the problem
That's the same argument PR has regarding Perth and its pathways or lack of funding, basically how can anyone produce and keep talent, whilst being a competitive club...
Generally it needs to be funded independently, asking for hand outs is the same as begging, which the Arlc wont bother with.. hence why perth has been ignored time and time again, NZ have restated their own comp, it will bear fruit, but how can prosper if the warriors aren't directly tied to it, if we use penrith or souths as an example, they both have junior teams in the nswcup and all levels below, warriors need to do the same, im fairly sure andrew webster will look to implement some thing like that, and start up a production line of sorts, keeping local talent in the warriors system without other clubs knocking is the hard part, but being able to be giving them your scraps is where you wanna get to
 

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That's the same argument PR has regarding Perth and its pathways or lack of funding, basically how can anyone produce and keep talent, whilst being a competitive club...
Generally it needs to be funded independently, asking for hand outs is the same as begging, which the Arlc wont bother with.. hence why perth has been ignored time and time again, NZ have restated their own comp, it will bear fruit, but how can prosper if the warriors aren't directly tied to it, if we use penrith or souths as an example, they both have junior teams in the nswcup and all levels below, warriors need to do the same, im fairly sure andrew webster will look to implement some thing like that, and start up a production line of sorts, keeping local talent in the warriors system without other clubs knocking is the hard part, but being able to be giving them your scraps is where you wanna get to

There’s no reason why the ARLC couldn’t give them a bigger grant than other clubs.

Other clubs will whinge but they have to bear in mind a couple of things:

The competition would have been screwed without the Warriors picking up sticks and moving to Australia. So those actions deserve some sort of recompense.

Second thing, they are behind the eight ball. They haven’t had junior competitions for the past three years and they have essentially lost access to the best 16-18 year olds in NZ. It needs extra investment in order to catch up with clubs who haven’t been affected. It is not an equal playing field
 

MugaB

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There’s no reason why the ARLC couldn’t give them a bigger grant than other clubs.

Other clubs will whinge but they have to bear in mind a couple of things:

The competition would have been screwed without the Warriors picking up sticks and moving to Australia. So those actions deserve some sort of recompense.

Second thing, they are behind the eight ball. They haven’t had junior competitions for the past three years and they have essentially lost access to the best 16-18 year olds in NZ. It needs extra investment in order to catch up with clubs who haven’t been affected. It is not an equal playing field
Grant, salary cap, all the same, all the clubs get an even share, warriors just need smarter recruiters, the guys that get eyed out and brought over to aus are picked by really good spotters
 

Colk

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Grant, salary cap, all the same, all the clubs get an even share, warriors just need smarter recruiters, the guys that get eyed out and brought over to aus are picked by really good spotters

Look I agree with the salary cap (or whatever other model you want to use for talent distribution) being equal -although it is not really atm but that is a different story altogether.

I disagree totally about the grant though. To me it makes no sense that a club like the Roosters or Broncos are getting the same amount of money from the NRL than the Tigers, Sharks, Knights or the Warriors. Some of latter clubs have either been very financially precarious (Knights and Sharks), not doing what is best for the league (Tigers - get them to move to MacArthur region please) or like the Warriors are victims of circumstances that essentially means they haven’t had a junior competition. They could even tie these bigger grants to greater investments in junior football etc
 

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Just cementing the success of what big city expansion can bring

Melbourne Storm’s exceptional membership growth in the 2022 NRL season has created another record – the highest membership tally ever recorded by an NRL club.

With more than 10,000 new members signing on this year, Storm’s membership count now sits at 37,237, surpassing the previous record held by the Brisbane Broncos who had 36,420 members in the 2018 season.

Last month, Storm became number one in the NRL for membership for the first time and the club is now within sight of its target of 40,000 members in 2022.

 

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It’s time for the nrl to get off its arse and revers this trend!

The conclusions outlined in this data visualisation align with those in my book Code Wars.
Australian rules is successfully creeping the Barassi Line northward, with the border-straddling region of Murray in NSW aligned with Australian rules.
Significantly, this mapping work suggests Australian rules is also advancing in the adjacent Riverina region.

 

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