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Suitman

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I just don't know enought about it all, but how's everything going for the American people who live their? Are their lives better? More jobs? Cost of living etc? I can't comment. I don't know.
But if things are better for them then one may argue he is looking after his own people first. And why shouldn't he. I would also.

One does not need to alienate the rest of the world to make one's people's lives better.
 

Suitman

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I've been following this bloke lately.
Never has more sense been spoken on FB.


Alright, I’m saying this as an Australian who is absolutely sick to death of watching the world hold its breath every time this blabbering blubbering blithering blustering baffoon opens his grotesque mouth.
You see folks, as far as I can tell, from the outside, this is what it looks like: America has elected a man who talks and behaves like a megalomaniac, and the rest of the planet is supposed to just trust that he won’t completely lose his grip on reality and drag us all into catastrophe.
You want to steal Greenland.
You want Cuba to “make a deal before it’s too late”.
You talk about bombing or invading Mexico.
You kidnap a President and knock off the peoples oil in Venezuela.
You joke about annexing Canada like it should be a shopping centre car park you can just claim because you feel like it.
Do you have any idea how insane that sounds to the rest of us?
This isn’t tough talk. This isn’t strategy. This is a deeply unstable old man threatening sovereign nations like he’s flipping over a Monopoly board because he’s losing. This is not normal behaviour. This is not leadership. This is not strength. This is a walking, talking international crisis.
And Americans, this is where it comes back to you. Not just MAGA, not just the people who voted for him, all of you. Because when the President of the United States starts talking about kidnapping leaders, annexing countries, and issuing ultimatums like a mob boss, the rest of the world doesn’t get a vote. We just get the consequences.
You don’t get to shrug and say, “Well I didn’t vote for him.” That might fly at a dinner party, but it doesn’t fly when nuclear powers are watching this circus and recalculating their own red lines. This is your system. Your presidency. Your responsibility.
From the outside, it looks like America lit the fuse and then wandered off while everyone else stands around the bomb wondering who’s going to cut the wire.
And let’s be brutally honest. This man is nearly 80. He’s frail. He’s clearly deteriorating. He is not some long term visionary playing chess. He’s at the end of his lifespan and acting like nothing matters after him. That is the most dangerous type of leader there is. A man with nothing to lose and an ego that demands constant feeding.
Why should the rest of the world pay for that?
Why should families in Europe, Asia, Australia, South America, anywhere, have to worry about war, trade collapse, energy shocks, or global instability because America couldn’t get its own house in order?
This is not about left or right anymore. This is about basic sanity. This is about stopping a psychopath before he does something irreversible. Because once a war starts, once a country gets invaded, once alliances fracture beyond repair, you don’t get a reset button.
So yes, this falls on Americans. You got the world into this mess, and you damn well better roll your sleeves up and get us out of it. Impeach him. Remove him. Contain him. Do whatever your system allows, but do it fast.
Because the rest of us just want to live our lives, raise our families, pay our bills, and not wake up one morning to find out World War Three started because an unhinged old man wanted to feel powerful one last time.
This isn’t funny anymore.
It isn’t theatrical.
It isn’t tolerable.
Get this lunatic under wraps before he ruins it for everyone.
 

hindy111

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One does not need to alienate the rest of the world to make one's people's lives better.

But you completely side stepped/dismissed my question. I'm not having a go at you so don't take it personally .I was curious. I also agree Trumps a bit of a nut and bit grubby also.
I'm just more of a logical thinker rather then an emotional type.
 
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The coalition's demise was self inflicted and began before the last federal election.
True, and it's just gotten worse.
Labor are the political centre? That is a stretch.
Not really a stretch any more. Greens to the left, and the various other small pieces of the rabble are to the right.
Ole mate might not be the dumbest merkin on earth, but he'll want to hope that the person who is doesn't die.
Trump is still alive, last I checked...
 

Suitman

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But you completely side stepped/dismissed my question. I'm not having a go at you so don't take it personally .I was curious. I also agree Trumps a bit of a nut and bit grubby also.
I'm just more of a logical thinker rather then an emotional type.

I didn't purposely sidestep your question.

But maybe here is the answer.





At this point, Donald Trump’s entire foreign-policy toolkit fits on the back of a beer coaster, and it has one word written on it: tariffs. Every time he wants leverage, every time he doesn’t get his way, every time a sovereign nation tells him “no,” he reaches for the same blunt object. Greenland won’t sell itself? Fine, slap Europe with a tariff. Ten percent now, twenty-five percent later. Because apparently in Trump’s world, diplomacy is just extortion with a flag on it. Here’s the part the world has finally caught onto: tariffs aren’t some clever economic weapon aimed at foreign governments. They are a tax on your own people. American consumers pay them. American businesses absorb them. Supply chains buckle. Prices rise. Inflation creeps back in. Growth slows. Recession risks climb. This isn’t strategy. It’s self-harm dressed up as toughness. And global leaders know it now. They know this guy doesn’t have ammunition. He has tantrums. He has threats. He has a tariff lever that he yanks every time his ego takes a hit. The mystique is gone. The bluster doesn’t scare anyone who’s done the math. What used to be taken seriously is now treated like noise. Because once you strip away the theatrics, what’s left is a deeply unserious man with a deeply fragile ego, using economic disruption as a distraction from everything else collapsing around him. And let’s be clear about the context he’s operating in. This is a president who is a convicted felon, who was found civilly liable for sexual abuse, who incited an insurrection, who has multiple bankruptcies behind him, and whose business and personal history reads like a cautionary tale about what happens when con artistry meets power. World leaders don’t need lectures from that guy. They need him to stop setting fires and calling it leadership. So when he starts swinging tariffs at Europe because he can’t bully Greenland into submission, the reaction isn’t fear. It’s eye-rolling. It’s containment. It’s “let him burn political oxygen while we work around him.” And here’s the ugly truth: this constant escalation, this tariff roulette, this endless chaos, it’s not about protecting American workers or strengthening the economy. It’s about distraction. Big, loud, headline-grabbing distraction. Anything to pull focus away from the mounting legal, ethical, and historical reckoning closing in on him. The world sees it. Investors see it. Economists see it. Even allies see it. Trump doesn’t have leverage. He has a hammer, and he keeps smashing his own foot while yelling at everyone else. And the more he does it, the clearer it becomes that the danger isn’t that the world will take him too seriously. It’s that they already don’t.
 
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This is actually a good point - we had the former coalition LNP calling loudly (politically) for a Royal Commission into antisemitism because two nutjobs killed people at a Jewish festival in Bondi... yet no-one calls for a Royal Commission into the ongoing domestic violence deaths that continue to regularly feature in the news and plague our country.

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JokerEel

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This is actually a good point - we had the former coalition LNP calling loudly (politically) for a Royal Commission into antisemitism because two nutjobs killed people at a Jewish festival in Bondi... yet no-one calls for a Royal Commission into the ongoing domestic violence deaths that continue to regularly feature in the news and plague our country.

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Well there are ways to get a royal Commission happening Labor Libs One Nation Nationals all could do it.
 

eels_fan

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The reality is there is a better chance of Trump creating some loophole to keep himself in office another term than there is him being forcibly removed by his own party or impeached.

I’m happy to admit I was all for Trump over Biden, maybe I still am, but the stuff with ICE, Netanyahu and now Greenland - it’s more than turned me off the bloke. Wouldn’t even consider stepping foot in the country while he’s leading it.
 

King-Gutho94

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I agree but you are describing leadership rather than personality. Good policy in my view comes from people with leadership rather than personality.

John Howard is a good example of this. Was fairly strong in his convictions and showed leadership on many issues but he has no personality and was as boring as bat shit.
Howard showed the world how uncoordinated he was bowling a cricket ball.
 

hindy111

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And you think the Orange one is a better option purely because he dresses to the right ?

A mannequin would make better decisions than Donny boy.

This is an assumption. What makes you think I vote for the right when I've mentioned previously multiple times that I change sides pending on who I prefer at the time.

My question was how is the Amercian economy going for the people and cost of living etc. I'm asking about figures. Actual numbers. Inflation, jobs, wage growth etc.
 

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The brouhaha that the LNP got themselves into is getting worse. Jacinta couldn't vote yes or no cos she would upset the weirdos on both sides, so she decided to just say that she wanted to vote no, but the PA wasn't working at parliament house. Oh dear.

 
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The reality is there is a better chance of Trump creating some loophole to keep himself in office another term than there is him being forcibly removed by his own party or impeached.
I think when the mid-term results come in toward the end of the year and Republicans lose heaps across the USA, that'll be enough for Trump to "hand over" or be ousted, to avoid a 2028 election rout.
I’m happy to admit I was all for Trump over Biden, maybe I still am,
Brave fella... and it was Trump over Harris, if you were paying attention to the last US election.
but the stuff with ICE, Netanyahu and now Greenland - it’s more than turned me off the bloke. Wouldn’t even consider stepping foot in the country while he’s leading it.
Agree with you there.
 
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This is an assumption. What makes you think I vote for the right when I've mentioned previously multiple times that I change sides pending on who I prefer at the time.
"Dresses to the right" is a reference to which side of your jeans/trousers you cock hangs when you do up your zip.
My question was how is the Amercian economy going for the people and cost of living etc. I'm asking about figures. Actual numbers. Inflation, jobs, wage growth etc.
Bad. Look it up for yourself - on non Trump-reliant sources.
 
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The brouhaha that the LNP got themselves into is getting worse. Jacinta couldn't vote yes or no cos she would upset the weirdos on both sides, so she decided to just say that she wanted to vote no, but the PA wasn't working at parliament house. Oh dear.

I'd forgotten all about the vacuous Jacinta... she whom freely cavorted between sides of the former coalition, selfishly leaving wreckage in her wake.
 

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