OT: Current Affairs and Politics

[the phantom menace]

Yes you can. You can ban them based on them being too disruptive (disproportionate to the feelings of the country) and too repetitive.

That there is a subjective load of shit, in my opinion.

 

[Avenger]

I would and always have called it an horrific f**king disgusting terrorist attack. Absolutely abhorrent. The likes I would never want to see ever again. That was terrorism of the highest order.
However, yet again, you are another who does not or will not comment on the atrocities of the retaliation by Israel and the 60 000+ genocide of innocent civilians.

What would you call that?

Of course there have been atrocities on both sides — that’s the whole point. Even the Ukrainians, inconvenient as that seems to some, have committed them against Russians.

And like I said the other day, no matter how insensitive it sounds, I honestly don’t give a f**k unless it spills over here. Yesterday it did spill over here, and it descended into chaos thanks to a mob of unemployed idiots and professional virtue-signallers whose real aim isn’t justice, but provocation — followed by playing the victim.

This kind of behaviour has already contributed to the worst terrorist attack we’ve ever had, and it only encourages more lunatics to target people they don’t like — in this case, Jewish Australians.

Yet some here including one of our own moderators — choose to remain strategically silent, or deflect and trivialise these actions through sheer delusion.

 

[the phantom menace]

Yesterday it did spill over here, and it descended into chaos thanks to a mob of unemployed idiots and professional virtue-signallers whose real aim isn’t justice, but provocation — followed by playing the victim.

Isn't it a bit unfair to label the Jewish Community's month-long vigils and the Israeli president's visit at Bondi in that way...

 

[Suitman]

Of course there have been atrocities on both sides — that’s the whole point. Even the Ukrainians, inconvenient as that seems to some, have committed them against Russians.

And like I said the other day, no matter how insensitive it sounds, I honestly don’t give a f**k unless it spills over here. Yesterday it did spill over here, and it descended into chaos thanks to a mob of unemployed idiots and professional virtue-signallers whose real aim isn’t justice, but provocation — followed by playing the victim.

This kind of behaviour has already contributed to the worst terrorist attack we’ve ever had, and it only encourages more lunatics to target people they don’t like — in this case, Jewish Australians.

Yet some here including one of our own moderators — choose to remain strategically silent, or deflect and trivialise these actions through sheer delusion.

The worst terrorist attack we've ever had was Port Arthur and Martin Bryant. Why do the media run with this claim and Bondi?
Because Martin Bryant was white?
Ask the families of the victims if the dead may have felt terrorised at the time?
Yes, it may not have been racially motivated but it was still terrorism.

 

[Avenger]

The worst terrorist attack we've ever had was Port Arthur and Martin Bryant. Why do the media run with this claim and Bondi?
Because Martin Bryant was white?
Ask the families of the victims if the dead may have felt terrorised at the time?
Yes, it may not have been racially motivated but it was still terrorism.

Seeing you are clutching at straws.

Let me be more specific.

Racially and ethnically motivated violent extremism is the type of terrorism I was talking about.

 

[King-Gutho94]

I guess that explains why the cops used excessive force.

Like most things there are 3 sides to every story.

I reckon this is somewhere in the middle.

I saw another video where 2 clowns were baiting the police for a reaction invading there personal space.

Thats not protesting thats just people looking to get there heads kicked in and getting what they deserved.

 

[Gronk]

The worst terrorist attack we've ever had was Port Arthur and Martin Bryant. Why do the media run with this claim and Bondi?
Because Martin Bryant was white?
Ask the families of the victims if the dead may have felt terrorised at the time?
Yes, it may not have been racially motivated but it was still terrorism.

The worst was the fella from Grafton who we exported to Christchurch and he killed 50+ peaceful Muslims in prayer. Live-streamed it.

He was a self described Ethno-Nationalist. He said as much in his manifesto.

That’s quite a common concept in 2026, sadly.

What did the Christchurch mosque shooter believe? Inside the mind of a collectivist killer

As Muslims gathered for Friday prayers, a shooter livestreamed himself entering the Masjid Al Noor mosque in Christchurch, New Zealand, and killing 41 people with a semiautomatic weapon. He then drove to the Masjid mosque in nearby Linwood, where seven more have died. (An additional victim died...

www.acton.org

Manifesto claims NZ shootings were revenge

A man has issued a manifesto in which he says the Christchurch mosque shootings were revenge for "thousands of deaths" in Europe throughout history.

www.sbs.com.au

 

[Gronk]

I guess that explains why the cops used excessive force.

Like most things there are 3 sides to every story.

I reckon this is somewhere in the middle.

I saw another video where 2 clowns were baiting the police for a reaction invading there personal space.

Thats not protesting thats just people looking to get there heads kicked in and getting what they deserved.

In this country, we detain and arrest.

It is not the cops job to seek revenge or to punish.

I am not defending any alleged violence against police BTW.

 

[Bandwagon]

I guess that explains why the cops used excessive force.

Does it ( if true ) justify laying into him on the ground whilst very clearly restrained?

Because you'd have to be some kinda special version of a shit merkin to think that beating a merkin on the ground whilst your mate leans on his head is how policing should be done.

 

[Suitman]

In this country, we detain and arrest.

It is not the cops job to seek revenge or to punish.

I am not defending any alleged violence against police BTW.

The cops certainly antagonised last night's violence.
However, I notice you have not mentioned why. Chris Minns giving them more power to do so. That was the problem.

 

[the phantom menace]

The cops certainly antagonised last night's violence.
However, I notice you have not mentioned why. Chris Minns giving them more power to do so. That was the problem.

Agree. And Minns only did it at the behest of (and to placate) the more fundamentalist element within the Sydney Jewish community...

 

[strider]

Does it ( if true ) justify laying into him on the ground whilst very clearly restrained?

Because you'd have to be some kinda special version of a shit merkin to think that beating a merkin on the ground whilst your mate leans on his head is how policing should be done.

I think when you watch the video gronk posted, the dude latches on with his teeth and doesnt stop ... so they lay into him until he does. You can hear them yellung let go of his hand.

 

[T-Boon]

I doubt any police officer overstepped the mark and it is more likely that the ferals that assembled disgraced themselves. I am fine with the steps taken.

 

[JohnStoppafarty]

What cars do you have? Im a Holden man

Nothing to get excited about. I have owned a fair few decent cars, some of them Holdens.
I have also been lucky enough to work on and drive some very nice cars. Nicer than I could ever afford.
I've worked on more than my fair share of shitboxes too.

 

[King-Gutho94]

DFAT 'apologises unreservedly' to families of methanol poisoning victims

www.9news.com.au

Pretty piss poor from the government and DFAT the victims families found out via another victims family about the piss weak justice in Laos.

Penny "no idea" Wong had to grovel and apologise.

A monumental cock up all round.

And while the Aussies can't force justice in Laos. We have been pretty soft on there government.

Why not send a travel advisory out Australians not to travel there and put it on the black list really.

Laos need tourism and if we refuse to go it will destroy them.

 

[Bandwagon]

I think when you watch the video gronk posted, the dude latches on with his teeth and doesnt stop ... so they lay into him until he does. You can hear them yellung let go of his hand.

Yeah I don't think so, you can't really tell if he does bite or not, but you can see plain as day when old mate is laying into his ribs the other copper is leaning on his head in such a position as the only thing he is possibly biting at that point is the ground.

 

[Bandwagon]

The cops certainly antagonised last night's violence.
However, I notice you have not mentioned why. Chris Minns giving them more power to do so. That was the problem.

Part of the problem for sure, the whole ban shit is overreach. Like it or not protest is a legitimate form of political discourse, blanket bans intended to silence people have always ended up being an excuse for violence.

People want to check out the shit that went down in the seventies in Brisbane when Joh thought he could silence merkins in the same manner.

 

[hindy111]

Yeah I don't think so, you can't really tell if he does bite or not, but you can see plain as day when old mate is laying into his ribs the other copper is leaning on his head in such a position as the only thing he is possibly biting at that point is the ground.

Hang on what exactly happened? Some Jewish leader come to pay respect to the Anti Semite terrorist attack in Bondi carried out by two Muslim extremists and then a group of Muslims decided to go and pray at the exact same spot? Is this what happened?

What was the march/protest about?
They didnt want them to pay respect to the families who lost loved ones ?

I havent paid attention and trying to piece it together.

 

[Gronk]

The cops certainly antagonised last night's violence.
However, I notice you have not mentioned why. Chris Minns giving them more power to do so. That was the problem.

Minns is a massive disappointment. There was a parliamentary enquiry into the rushed legislation after the eastern suburbs graffiti and dural caravan explosives thing. He used that momentum to rush news laws / tighten existing before the investigations were even complete. The findings of the investigations were in fact that the graffiti was NOT from local Sydney antisemitism, it was a product of Iran paying local criminal gangs to cause disruption. The caravan thing was some Sydney criminal gang just wanting to tie up police resources. That’s a bit hush hush.

He didn’t stop after that. As you say, police have been given wide powers to wind up and move on public gatherings which are seen anti-democratic.

There is certainly a perception out there that he is being influenced by a well resourced and vocal lobby.

I assure you that unions and nurses march by my office window monthly on their way to Macquarie Street. They don’t have any problem in getting permits. It does seem that there is one group is forced to continually front NSW Supreme Court bonking heads with Minns, seeking the same right to march.

 

[Bandwagon]

Hang on what exactly happened? Some Jewish leader come to pay respect to the Anti Semite terrorist attack in Bondi carried out by two Muslim extremists and then a group of Muslims decided to go and pray at the exact same spot? Is this what happened?

No, the attack was in Bondi, the protest was in the CBD,

What was the march/protest about?

Herzog as president of Israel ( which is mostly a ceremonial role ) is complicit in the genocide of the Palestinian people.

This lays it out reasonably, if you want to know their position.

Isaac Herzog is accused of inciting genocide in Gaza. He shouldn’t be welcomed to Australia | Chris Sidoti

Anthony Albanese should recognise he made a terrible mistake in inviting the Israeli president to Australia and put a stop to this divisive political visit

www.theguardian.com

They didnt want them to pay respect to the families who lost loved ones ?

I'm sure that line will be trotted out, but it's not about that in the slightest. It's about the head of state of a country that is committing the genocide these folk have been protesting visiting our shores.

As much as many in the Jewish community have called for such a visit, it should never have happened because it was always going to stir up division. The guy was photographed signing bombs Israel were dropping, it's clearly incendiary to have him here.