OT: Current Affairs and Politics

[Gronk]

That Kracken lawyer was a double agent !

 

[Gary Gutful]

That’s bullshit. She was a triple agent.

 

[strider]

Oh look, I'm not for a minute suggesting his intent over weeks was make people "storm the capitol", what I'm saying is that is a very knowable outcome of what he's been pushing. And for that he must bear responsibility.

That he is emotionally incapable of accepting defeat is beside the point. This is the POTUS, it's not like the advice isn't there available if he chooses to listen. His available resources are virtually limited only by his choice to use them

It's also worth remembering that impeachment is not by necessity a criminal proceedings, and there are no criminal consequences to impeachment. There is only disqualification from office, and it does not require an actual crime to have been committed.

It is at it's heart the method to remove a person of office who is shown to be incapable or unwilling to serve in that position in a manner that is fit for that position, in the case of the POTUS, it's my understanding that it's the only means of removal.

In this instance, this is very clearly about attempting to ensure the Donald can not hold public office again, no more , no less.

Yeah i said in my first post that i realise the consequences of being impeached is different to any court process .... That said, its still being viewed in a similar manner as a type of trial.

 

[strider]

There are a lot of people that are tired of Trump getting a leave pass from consequences simply because, he didn't intend for X or he really believed Y. He's not a politician, he's a New York businessman, is not a defence when you have dozens of legal advisors and he ignores advice.

The tolerance for his disregard to the law is gobsmacking. Why should he be treated differently and what precedent does this set moving forward ?

You wanna drag Pelosi over the coals for calling for an uprising earlier this year too?

 

[strider]

That’s bullshit. She was a triple agent.

The independents have got alot to answer for

 

[Gronk]

You wanna drag Pelosi over the coals for calling for an uprising earlier this year too?

I think the point really is that a bunch of people broke into the capital building, killed a policeman , all whilst parliament was in session counting electoral votes and demanded that their guy is recognized as the winner of the election. They did that after Trumps geeup speech saying we're all (no surprise that he lied to them) going to go down there and demand this and that.

 

[Twizzle]

well Miranda Divine seems to be at home in the states, and she can stay there

 

[84 Baby]

No pardons for Assange or Snowden.
Lil Wayne got a pardon though.
For his god awful music I assume.

 

[strider]

I think the point really is that a bunch of people broke into the capital building, killed a policeman , all whilst parliament was in session counting electoral votes and demanded that their guy is recognized as the winner of the election. They did that after Trumps geeup speech saying we're all (no surprise that he lied to them) going to go down there and demand this and that.

cool - Pelosi gets a pardon

tho I'm pretty sure a bunch of people died in the events of mid 2020's uprising also

 

[Gary Gutful]

No pardons for Assange or Snowden.
Lil Wayne got a pardon though.
For his god awful music I assume.

Some crimes just shouldn’t be pardoned.

 

[Twizzle]

No pardons for Assange or Snowden.
Lil Wayne got a pardon though.
For his god awful music I assume.

source please

 

[Twizzle]

https://twitter.com/i/events/1351259599668539397

Trump issues more than 140 pardons and commutations before leaving office

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Trump issues more than 140 pardons and commutations before leaving office
On early Wednesday, Trump issued 73 pardons and 70 commutations, including Steve Bannon, Lil Wayne, Kodak Black and Kwame Kilpatrick. However, the list issued by the White House does not include the outgoing president or any of his family members, despite earlier reports. Rapper Lil Wayne pleaded guilty in federal court in 2020 to possession of a loaded handgun and Steve Bannon was charged last year with defrauding donors of more than a million dollars.

 

[Twizzle]

140 criminals back out on the streets, god bless America

 

[eels_fan]

Was hoping Tiger King would be released, just because he's good value...

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

No pardons for Assange or Snowden.
Lil Wayne got a pardon though.
For his god awful music I assume.

Lil Wayne featured on The Celebrity Apprentice (and perhaps The Apprentice).

 

[strider]

Was hoping Tiger King would be released, just because he's good value...

FFS - they wasted all that money of the enormous stretch limo

 

[Gary Gutful]

Has anyone checked whether he pardoned Old Tiger 79 as well?

 

[Bandwagon]

Yeah i said in my first post that i realise the consequences of being impeached is different to any court process .... That said, its still being viewed in a similar manner as a type of trial.

Yeah, it is.

But that really aint what it is.

 

[Gronk]

I’m more interested in the hand grenades he’s left for Biden. I heard that he randomly set an expiry date to the overseas traveller covid ban for next week.

He’s also just parachuted in a Trump loyal lawyer as head of the spy agency, NSA. He got appointed Sunday and sworn in today.

 

[Gary Gutful]