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Gronk

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QLD Premier this morning saying that there is a gov job guarantee for workers in the transition away from coal. Political game changer IMHO. Will be interesting to see what dinosaurs like Matt Canavan have to say now.

 

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QLD Premier this morning saying that there is a gov job guarantee for workers in the transition away from coal. Political game changer IMHO. Will be interesting to see what dinosaurs like Matt Canavan have to say now.

It seems that Canavan is into nuclear power now.

 

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So it was governemnt rules that forced telcos to capture so much ID for the sake of getting a mobile phone. Any changes to that?

Not yet.

What's being signalled by the government is legislation enforcing greater security.

The lack of opposition to encroachment on privacy and the retention of data contained in the "interests" of national security is a blight on our democracy.

Perhaps now folks will realise that a no questions asked approach to bi-partisan support of measures created under the umbrella term of national security doesn't serve us as well as might have been believed.
 

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Petrol prices to explode again.

We all will experience PAIN AT THE PUMP
Apparently servos "already factored in the excise increase" about a week and a half before the day .... hence no jump on the day .... cool. Who made that extra money?
 

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Yeah, war and death is so much better.

Fun fact. There was almost a peace deal back in April until Boris/nato/usa went in and told ukraine not to.
If Indonesia muscled in on the top end, you would concede to their invasion to avoid war ?

I witnessed this attitude when the world instructed Serbia to stand down and allow their historic Kosovo lands to pass to the ethnic albanians. Pussy attitudes only encourages tyrants to flex their muscles.

I guess when there is oil in the equation (kuwait) then the western world sits up and pays attention.
 

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If Indonesia muscled in on the top end, you would concede to their invasion to avoid war ?

I witnessed this attitude when the world instructed Serbia to stand down and allow their historic Kosovo lands to pass to the ethnic albanians. Pussy attitudes only encourages tyrants to flex their muscles.

I guess when there is oil in the equation (kuwait) then the western world sits up and pays attention.
Depends if your made up scenario includes ... australia trying to cleanse all indonesians from the predominantly indonesian top end for the last 8 years; australia using extremist militia to do the killing of previously mentioned indonesians; the USA backing a coup to get a govt they desire in control of australia; the usa desperate to remove indonesias head of state so pushing australia in directions to intimidate indonesian into a war ..... I think this is currently all fantasy, so i guess apples and oranges

Are you trying to compare yugoslavia/serbia in the 90s to ukraine now? ... thats not even apples and oranges, its apples and tbone steak .... in many ways you are reversing the sides and the american led agenda which was of course not backing serbia
 

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Depends if your made up scenario includes ... australia trying to cleanse all indonesians from the predominantly indonesian top end for the last 8 years; australia using extremist militia to do the killing of previously mentioned indonesians; the USA backing a coup to get a govt they desire in control of australia; the usa desperate to remove indonesias head of state so pushing australia in directions to intimidate indonesian into a war ..... I think this is currently all fantasy, so i guess apples and oranges

Are you trying to compare yugoslavia/serbia in the 90s to ukraine now? ... thats not even apples and oranges, its apples and tbone steak .... in many ways you are reversing the sides and the american led agenda which was of course not backing serbia
You're talking in riddles. What are you alleging is happening in Ukraine that justifies what ?
 

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You're talking in riddles. What are you alleging is happening in Ukraine that justifies what ?
Mentioned before .... this is far more complex than putin equals bad man .... the usa and others are as responsible for the war as anyone.
 

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Mentioned before .... this is far more complex than putin equals bad man .... the usa and others are as responsible for the war as anyone.
OK you're being vague again. I made a comment about a country having the sovereign right to defend merkin invaders and how they should not be expected to just bend over and give up territory.

So I'm keen to know why you have a different view and in particular why Ukraine should. Also unsure why other countries are "at fault" here. The Ukraine seeking inclusion into Nato spooked Putin into action, as Nato have a long held policy that an attack against a Nato country is an attack against all Nato Countries.

This May BBC report pretty much predicted what Russia would do. Low and behold last week they held a "referendum" just like they did for Crimea and just took the land. Last week they declared that the Donbas is Russian land for ever...

I suspect that Odessa is next on the hit list to deny Ukraine access to the Black Sea. Ukraine supply the world with Forty percent of the World Food Program's wheat supplies and are shipped out via Odessa.


Russia's leader refused to call it an invasion or a war. Moscow continues to coin Europe's biggest war since 1945 a "special military operation".

The claims of Nazis and genocide in Ukraine are completely unfounded but part of a narrative repeated by Russia for years. "It's crazy, sometimes not even they can explain what they are referring to," complained Ukraine's foreign minister Dmytro Kuleba.

However, an opinion piece by state-run news agency Ria Novosti made clear that "denazification is inevitably also de-Ukrainisation" - in effect erasing the modern state.

And it is Russia that is now accused by the international community of carrying out war crimes. Several countries including the US and Canada go further and call it genocide.

After so much destruction, the Russian leader's words ring very hollow now: "It is not our plan to occupy the Ukrainian territory; we do not intend to impose anything on anyone by force."

Map showing areas of Ukraine currently under Russian control

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How have Putin's aims changed?​

A month into the invasion, Russia pulled back from Kyiv and declared its main goal was the "liberation of Donbas" - broadly referring to Ukraine's eastern regions of Luhansk and Donetsk. More than a third of this area was already seized by Russian proxy forces in a war that began in 2014, now Russia wanted to conquer all of it.
The Kremlin claimed it had "generally accomplished" the aims of the invasion's first phase, which it defined as considerably reducing Ukraine's combat potential. But it became clear from Russia's withdrawal that it had scaled back its ambitions.
"Putin needs a victory," said Andrei Kortunov, head of the Russian International Affairs Council. "At least he needs something he can present to his constituency at home as a victory."
Russian officials are now focused on seizing the two big eastern regions and creating a land corridor along the south coast, east from Crimea to the Russian border. They have claimed control of the southern region of Kherson and a leading Russian general has said they have hopes of seizing territory further west along the Black Sea coast towards Odesa and beyond.
"Control over the south of Ukraine is another way out to Transnistria," said Maj Gen Rustam Minnekayev, referring to a breakaway area of Moldova, where Russia has some 1,500 troops.



Map showing the Russian military advance into Ukraine in the south

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If Russia does capture both eastern regions, it will most likely try to annexe them after a sham vote, as it did with Crimea in 2014. Ukraine also accuses occupying forces in Kherson of planning a referendum on creating separatist entity: they are already introducing Russia's currency, the rouble, from 1 May.
 
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Loose unit's gone even crazier. Raising the wall does nothing to protect the area from floods, unless they also change their current apparent reluctance to start to open the flood gates in advance of the overflow.

Hard not to suspect it's not just about promoting more development on that floodplain...

 
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Less than six months until we get to vote the unelected premier and his party out, hopefully not too late to stop this disaster of a decision lurching ahead....
 

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