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Gronk

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One parallel is that men and women still use segregated public bathrooms. Is that intolerance? If men are such a threat to women, how do we know they are no longer a threat just because they have transitioned?
The concern that trans women might pose a threat to cisgender women ignores that trans women are women. Conflating them with predatory men perpetuates harmful stereotypes and mischaracterises them.

Leaping to transgender might be predatory criminals is no different to you feeling icky that gay people are using your bathroom. No, they don’t want to f**k you Pou and they will not grab your willy at first chance. If YOU feel predatory around women in similar circumstances, then well, give yourself an uppercut.
 

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RTBU have a list of 245 demands.
Here are just a few, as documented by the ABC.
It is no wonder there has been no agreement.


lol, this is a new one

Workers should have all overtime paid as double time, the claim said. Overtime should be paid on the day too.

I would like to know how they justify these claims and what they do to earn all this extra money/wages.

Some time ago, there were productivity claims, which meant increasing output for higher wages. However, this never lasted long as no one increased their output.
 

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lol, this is a new one

Workers should have all overtime paid as double time, the claim said. Overtime should be paid on the day too.

I would like to know how they justify these claims and what they do to earn all this extra money/wages.

Some time ago, there were productivity claims, which meant increasing output for higher wages. However, this never lasted long as no one increased their output.
So they want some poor payroll stooge to jump out of bed at 3AM on a Saturday or Sunday morning to do an ad-hoc payroll funds transfer to some train guards account because they did 2.5 hours overtime....

And then who is going to pay that Payroll operators overtime there and then? Segregation of duties dictates they can't pay themselves. So another payroll operator needs to go and do an ad-hoc payment and on and on it goes...

Fantasy....
 

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So they want some poor payroll stooge to jump out of bed at 3AM on a Saturday or Sunday morning to do an ad-hoc payroll funds transfer to some train guards account because they did 2.5 hours overtime....

And then who is going to pay that Payroll operators overtime there and then? Segregation of duties dictates they can't pay themselves. So another payroll operator needs to go and do an ad-hoc payment and on and on it goes...

Fantasy....
Welcome to 2024.
 

Joshuatheeel

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Out of curiosity, has anyone here had a situation where their life was actually affected in a negative way by interacting with a transgender person? Or a family member or friend? Or been affected negatively by the laws/rules towards a transgender person?

not a worry or concern but actual example.
 

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Out of curiosity, has anyone here had a situation where their life was actually affected in a negative way by interacting with a transgender person? Or a family member or friend? Or been affected negatively by the laws/rules towards a transgender person?

not a worry or concern but actual example.
Are you familiar the concept of sample sizes??
 

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Out of curiosity, has anyone here had a situation where their life was actually affected in a negative way by interacting with a transgender person? Or a family member or friend? Or been affected negatively by the laws/rules towards a transgender person?

not a worry or concern but actual example.

1950s Australia is getting flashbacks

Out of curiosity, has anyone here had a situation where their life was actually affected in a negative way by interacting with a black person? Or a family member or friend? Or been affected negatively by the laws/rules towards a black person?

not a worry or concern but actual example.
 

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1950s Australia is getting flashbacks

Out of curiosity, has anyone here had a situation where their life was actually affected in a negative way by interacting with a black person? Or a family member or friend?
Yes. There are a group of ne’er-do-wells around my area. 2 of them are of Sudanese descent. They were accosting people the other week out the front of the local shops demanding money.

Or been affected negatively by the laws/rules towards a black person?
Wait… are you implying because someone hasn’t been negatively impacted by targetted laws, that those laws are a good thing?
 

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lol, this is a new one

Workers should have all overtime paid as double time, the claim said. Overtime should be paid on the day too.

I would like to know how they justify these claims and what they do to earn all this extra money/wages.

Some time ago, there were productivity claims, which meant increasing output for higher wages. However, this never lasted long as no one increased their output.
I work in industry where basically all OT is double time.
I get the argument for same day paid OT but it’s just not practical in any way.
And don’t get me started on productivity allowances. Workers hold them and RDO accrual above ordinary hours because they don’t understand why they were introduced.
 

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Out of curiosity, has anyone here had a situation where their life was actually affected in a negative way by interacting with a transgender person? Or a family member or friend? Or been affected negatively by the laws/rules towards a transgender person?

not a worry or concern but actual example.

even if the answer is no, it won't stop the outraged from being outraged
 
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Wokey Warren

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Fee-free cots!
Sleeping is a right not a privilege!
From the blanket to the pee!

As a centrist, I think sometimes the far left just get carried away with their extremist virtue signalling nonsense.

And in my view, men in woman's sports is a bib too far.

Even if our wokey Warren is not a sicko, there’s probably a conga line of cretins ready to pretend to be changing their nappies in the womens facilities.
 
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Joshuatheeel

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And in my view, men in woman's sports is a bib too far.
Apart from some cases in top level elite sports, where the facts are up for debate, can you provide any examples of this being an actual issue in school sports? Community sports in Australia? Do you know anyone affected by this ?

serious question, as I wouldn't want my daughter playing against men....however she did play tackle against boys in mini league...
 

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lol, this is a new one

Workers should have all overtime paid as double time, the claim said. Overtime should be paid on the day too.

I would like to know how they justify these claims and what they do to earn all this extra money/wages.

Some time ago, there were productivity claims, which meant increasing output for higher wages. However, this never lasted long as no one increased their output.

They want their 32% but also want to reduce productivity at the same time. 38 hr week to a 35 hr week.
They are taking the piss.
 
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Apart from some cases in top level elite sports, where the facts are up for debate, can you provide any examples of this being an actual issue in school sports? Community sports in Australia? Do you know anyone affected by this ?

serious question, as I wouldn't want my daughter playing against men....however she did play tackle against boys in mini league...
I didn’t assert that girls were playing against boys in school sports.

But I don’t need to in order to submit that men have a physical advantage over women as we have seen, except in rare cases.

We dont ask teenagers to play sports against young children.

Its all wokey nonsense to virtue signal and back slap.

A lot of the wokeys are skirting around genuine disadvantage caused by the prevalence of the unequal distribution of wealth.

Worrying about pro-nouns in a housing crisis.
 
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Joshuatheeel

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I didn’t assert that girls were playing against boys in school sports.

But I don’t need to in order to submit that men have a physical advantage over women as we have seen, except in rare cases.

We dont ask teenagers to play sports against young children.

Its all wokey nonsense to virtue signal and back slap.

A lot of the wokeys are skirting around genuine disadvantage caused by the prevalence of the unequal distribution of wealth.
I agree, males have a strength advantage over females which is unfair in sports.

But serious question, do you have actual examples of males participating against females in sports in Australia?
 

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