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phil bailey

da_sharks

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would the reason why vagana not getting enough of the ball, is because of bailey?

there has not been one game i have seen bailey actually pass the ball to vagana.

would he be the reason of all this media nonsense?

if thats the case, i say get rid of him...

any thoughts???
 

Fin077

Juniors
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Bingo Bingo Bingo!!!!

He's been doing it for a long time now, so as much as I hate the fact he doesnt pass the ball, perhaps he's under instructions??

Whatever the case it REALLY annoys me!
 

Sideline Eye

Juniors
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i wish he stop propping at the line then stepping infield....very predictable.
I'de like to see him closer to the ruck.
 

The Nulla #2

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da_sharks said:
would the reason why vagana not getting enough of the ball, is because of bailey?

there has not been one game i have seen bailey actually pass the ball to vagana.

would he be the reason of all this media nonsense?

if thats the case, i say get rid of him...

any thoughts???


Isn't this the stuff we have been talking about for over the whole year?

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da_sharks

Juniors
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Fin077 said:
Bingo Bingo Bingo!!!!

He's been doing it for a long time now, so as much as I hate the fact he doesnt pass the ball, perhaps he's under instructions??

Whatever the case it REALLY annoys me!

under instructions?

by who?
 

Surely

Post Whore
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Sideline Eye said:
i wish he stop propping at the line then stepping infield....very predictable.
I'de like to see him closer to the ruck.

I'd just like to see him run staright, not angle across and fall into the tackle.
If he'd run f**king straight, maybe vagana might get some room.
 

da_sharks

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The Nulla #2 said:
Isn't this the stuff we have been talking about for over the whole year?

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late Mail Champ

i havent seen it, all i see is threads about peachey and how worthy we should be to have him...
 

millersnose

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he has a healthy offload rate and his try assist stats are high for a forward

but dont let that stop you re writing history guys
 

Macca

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This has been a topic of discussion all year Da Sharks.

FTR, I agree with Millers though. Bailey isn't used as well as he should be and he does get inside Vags alot. Vags just doesn't time his run off him well enough. They should have formed a formiddable partnership by now.
 
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Bailey has physical capabilities but simply is not a sensible player. His favoured treatment by Anderson in earlier years went to his head and he's got to go back to relearning and remastering the fundamentals or else he'll just be remembered as a flash in the pan. I'd have him on the bench for Saturday night, with Cameron Ciraldo in the starting line-up.
 

da_sharks

Juniors
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McSharkie said:
This has been a topic of discussion all year Da Sharks.

FTR, I agree with Millers though. Bailey isn't used as well as he should be and he does get inside Vags alot. Vags just doesn't time his run off him well enough. They should have formed a formiddable partnership by now.

because he doesnt time his run?

or is it because bailey doesnt offload to him enough?

how can you say that vagana, the top tryscorer for the bulldogs at one stage, cannot time his run to help bailey offload to him?

i think it is bailey, dont know whether there is hate or just jealousy (dont know why), but there hasnt been one time that i have seen bailey make an ofload to vagana to put him in a gap.

vagana only needs a couple of inches and his through. as seen from the sea eagles match. its not that he was playing 5/8th, its because he had chances to make the breaks, and he did.

now your saying that he doesnt time his run.

i dont agree...
 

Macca

Coach
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I didn't say you had to agree with me.

I have watched very closely. Vagana, quite often, doesn't even make a run, let alone time one. I have seen Bailey get his arms free often enough with no support there.
 

da_sharks

Juniors
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well considering the potential we have on that side, t.o.p. is right.

stick ciraldo in there and put bailey on the bench.
 

Mr Angry

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I say it again.

I like Bails

He plays too many minutes

He ain't Fitzgibbon or Hindmarsh.

But he can be effective.

Quality player not used correctly.
 

imasharkie

Coach
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tom of poland said:
Bailey has physical capabilities but simply is not a sensible player. His favoured treatment by Anderson in earlier years went to his head and he's got to go back to relearning and remastering the fundamentals or else he'll just be remembered as a flash in the pan. I'd have him on the bench for Saturday night, with Cameron Ciraldo in the starting line-up.

About time someone else writes what a lot of us think of show pony. Bailey is lucky our team is relatively inexperienced or he'd be Newtown Jets star player this week. We all know that he's ordinary with the ball in hand but his tackling saves his butt. Well when everyone sees the replay of the game the two tries scored by the wizz kid were because Bailey dropped off the tackle both times. So now not only is he a liability with the ball but his tacklings not all its made out to be. Yep damn lucky to be in the side this week.

We've sent the underperforming Sullivan back to PL, why shouldn't Bailey follow him?
 
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