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Phil Gould thinks we're the Titanic

reptar

Juniors
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New Canberra coach Neil Henry has been given a ticket to the Titanic.

I don't know this bloke but plenty tell me he's a coach of great potential. Henry has been assistant coach to Graham Murray at the Cowboys for the past three years. He obviously has special talent because Mal Meninga employed him to help steer Queensland to an upset win over NSW in last year's State of Origin series.

But he can't possibly be expected to succeed at the Raiders. I have grave concerns for their future in the NRL. I hope I'm wrong but I can see some real tough times for this club.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/league/coaches-have-much-to-prove/2007/02/17/1171405503430.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
 

reptar

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Nice to see Phil thinks so highly of our playing roster, because I have the utmost respect for him and his credibility, particularly after the Stuart/Bennett events of last year. We might actually stand a chance.
 

Walt Flanigan

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Gould picked Penrith and Canberra to finish last and second last in 2003. Canberra finished 4th and Penrith won the bloody thing. He has no idea what-so-ever.
 

Bay53

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In my opinion I think Phil Gould is very arrogant and likes to push his own agendas. However, I think his opinions are worthwhile listening to,

Would like to know more about what he means about the "grave future of the club". Does he just mean that he thinks we will finish near the bottom this year or is he talking about something more serious???

I think a lot of people will write us off.

But thats ok. Unless you have watched the Raiders closely over the past couple of years especially the junior grades you wouldn't have any idea who people like Michael Dobson, Jo Picker, Marc Herbert, Josh McCrone, Dane Tilse etc etc were. You won't understand how injured Michael Weyman has been, you wouldn't have seen Todd Carney slowly but surely getting better all the time, you won't understand how important Josh Miller is to us. You won't understand how desperate Scott Logan, Andrew Dunnemann and Glen Turner are to get back into top flight RL.

They don't understand that one day these guys will take us to the top of the mountain.

2007 is the start of the journey. We are not the Titanic by any means. But we are a boat that will leak at times and news reports will say that we have sunk, but those leaks will get less and less along the journey. We are by no means a speed boat, the trip to our destination will be slow at times and we may even drift backwards, but we have a crew that is here for the whole journey (we will lose one or two along the way, but the majority are here for the 2-3 year journey). We may end up being the QEII

I for one am looking forward to being a passenger sailing the high seas. I have confidence in the crew that we will not perish in icy waters.
 

edabomb

First Grade
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Haha damn you have a way with words Bay53. I'm not sure I share your confidence in the crew, but I'll jump aboard anyway.
 

Copa

Bench
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He is questioning our whole future in the NRL??

I do too ... you only have to see the brumbies slick marketing campaigns compared to our $2 home video playing on WIN every now and then to be concerned..

We can't keep surviving on small crowds combined with cheap ticket prices.... and a management that blames everything except themselves...
 
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Copa said:
He is questioning our whole future in the NRL??

I do too ... you only have to see the brumbies slick marketing campaigns compared to our $2 home video playing on WIN every now and then to be concerned..

We can't keep surviving on small crowds combined with cheap ticket prices.... and a management that blames everything except themselves...

We got the backing of many Leagues club, the Brumbies do not have that.. Once their 'stars' retire adn the team sarts to struggle the crowds will drop, and they rely on their jacked up ticket prices and crowd numbers a lot more then we do.
 

Raider_69

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our future in the NRL is as safe as a bank as far as i can see
we are amongst the more wealthy clubs in the NRL. Backed by many large league clubs most of which will not have to contend with the proposed poxie tax, which has the potential to cripple alot of NSW clubs
 

Copa

Bench
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HOw many leagues clubs do the Raiders own and how many are connected by an agreement of sorts?
 

donkey|rope

Juniors
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Honestly, I don't know how we'll go this season. If everything clicks, the best case scenario is that we'll do pretty well finishing somewhere in the bottom end of the top 8. And if everything doesn't click, the worst case scenario isn't us being award the wooden spoon, an unlikely outcome in my opinion, its having another pedestrian season.

If you cut away the rather plentiful amount of fat from Gus's 'analysis', he raises a good point, how long can the Raiders be the most irrelevant club in the NRL? And when I say irrelevant, I don't mean in the sense we are the worst performing club in the competition, but rather that we are essentially a nothing club at present and have been for some time. We win just enough games during the season not to win the spoon and somehow drift into the 8 under the radar but we don't impress anyone enough to think, 'hey these guys have a chance'. We have zero stars. Even the 'sorta-woulda-shoulda' stars and the blokes who have been around-so-long-its-hard-not-to-know-their-name players are gone, which makes the Raiders the least marketable team in the NRL. It's getting to that stage when most young people in the ACT region aren't old enough to remember 1994, so much to the point that the word 'raider' is more synonymous as a punch line to a football related joke rather than a football related team.

The outcome of this season is going to be vital for the future of our beloved franchise. It’s not a case of winning the premiership or even having to finish top 4, it’s more of a case of the Raiders having to play an exciting brand of football week in week out, producing a marquee player(s) with national recognition, drawing decent crowds and most importantly becoming a product that the ACT region can be proud of.
 

Chachi

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Phil Gould is an irrelevant fool. He is a self-centred egotistical wanna-be.

I have no time for his opinions, comments or antics...especially when it comes to Canberra or the Raiders.

My advice to Phil Gould - stick with what you know and keep death riding your Roosters. If there was ever a Titanic in the NRL Sydney City is it.

Having said that, his articles are often good for a laugh.
 

Raiders Plight

Juniors
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meh, gould would like to death ride us, he still secretly hates us for super league and we're not one of his traditional pet sydney teams like the dragons, roosters or eels. Unfortunately management seem to have bought into the perception that canberra isn't an attractive place to live, when it should be marketed as the perfect place to go if you're serious about playing league and making a career for yourself. It's quiet, clean and has the best training facilities in the country, the AIS. You shouldn't be thinking about 'what am i going to do this saturday night?' if you're a NRL player anyway.
 

Leethal

Juniors
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Phil Gould is a self-important tossbag. Every time his rough-as-guts head gets on telly, I dry retch. When he starts talking, I follow through.
You only have to listen to the knob to know that he thinks that the game of Rugby League taking place is only there so we can hear his wonderful commentary.
He does this to the Raiders every year and more often than not we make the semis (albeit briefly).

Ignore the fool.
 

Timbo

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I have no time at all for Phil Gould.

He's an arrogant prick who get's it wrong 90% of the time, and thinks he's the messiah the other 10%.

Look at his 2003 predictions and you'll see how clever he really is.
 

edabomb

First Grade
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I reckon Gould is awesome. The way he fires you lot into hysterics on a regular basis is brilliant.

The reactions show the esteem you really hold him in IMO. If this was a Neville nobody that none of you had respect for we wouldn't even see a topic.
 

Boing Boing

Juniors
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It's hard not to take comments like these to heart. Raiders fans have been putting up with it for seasons. I don't buy into the idea that if you have no 'Recognised' playes, you're doomed for the spoon.

I say we get hold of Gus' and Brohmann's email addresses, type up a letter and get as many people to send it as possible, to both of them, every time we win... especially if we beat Manly in round one.

Who's with me?
 
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