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Discussion in 'St George Illawarra Dragons' started by Bests Golden Boots, Jul 5, 2018.

  1. RufusRex

    RufusRex Immortal

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    hmmmm

    1-7 from our current picks

    GF Wins - Widdop
    GF Losses - Ben Hunt/Tim Lafai
    Other semi finals - Kurt Mann/Nene McDonald/Euan Aitken
    No Experience - Matt Duffty

    So 6 of the 7 have finals experience, 3 have GF experience, 1 has a GF Win
    5 of the 7 have international experience though some are minor nations

    Its not as good as 2010 when all had played finals and Boyd had won one but they are not "sadly lacking" big game experience .. just not as good as it could/should have been (f**k you last year)
     
  2. Drag Queen

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    He had a horror year last season with injuries but hell he's looked the goods this season. Hard to fault. I'll probably get shot down for this but I think Brett and Josh have been the Dog's stand out players this season. I'd definitely have him back on a one year contract.
     
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  3. Gareth67

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    Going by your stats i have indeed been wrong , however perhaps the point should had been the improvement in defence , as he very rarely misses his man . That plus he can take the load of a tiring forward pack - the man goes looking for work . However this is all hypothetical now as by the looks he wont be back .

    Must say you do have me rather confused with the end of your post - ( f**k you last year ) ? ?
     
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  4. hazzbeen

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    Maybe means F**k him for its his last year ?????
     
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  5. RufusRex

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    nah … just a general f**k you to the dragons for losing that last game to the doggies last year … we win that and we have a lot more semi final experience in the team.
     
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  6. Gareth67

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    Thank f**k for that ! I was just about to set my hogs onto you .:blush:
     
  7. getsmarty

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    DRAGONS

    2018 squad: Ben Hunt (2022), Blake Lawrie (2019), Cameron McInnes (2018), Darren Nicholls (2019), Euan Aitken (2020), Gareth Widdop (2021), Hame Sele (2018), Jack De Belin (2020), Jacob Host (2020), Jai Field (2019), James Graham (2020), Jason Nightingale (2018), Jeremy Latimore (2018), Josh Kerr (2018), Kurt Mann (2019), Leeson Ah Mau (2018), Luciano Leilua (2018), Matt Dufty (2018), Mitchell Allgood (2018), Nene Macdonald (2019), Patrick Herbert (2018), Paul Vaughan (2021), Reece Robson (2019), Reuben Garrick (2018), Jordan Pereira (2018), Steven Marsters (2019), Tariq Sims (2019), Tim Lafai (2020), Tristan Sailor (2019), Tyson Frizell (2020), Zac Lomax (2019)

    Off-contract: Leeson Ah Mau, Reuben Garrick, Patrick Herbert, Jeremy Latimore, Jason Nightingale, Ash Nisbet, Jordan Pereira, Hame Sele, Mitchell Allgood

    Coach: Paul McGregor (until 2019)

    New deal: Cameron McInnes (until 2021), Luciano Leilua (until 2020), Matt Dufty (until 2019), Joe Lovodua (until 2019), Josh Kerr (until 2019)

    Leaving: Joel Thompson (pre-season 2018 to Manly until 2019), Leeson Ah Mau (to Warriors from 2019 to 2021)


    https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...s/news-story/4899c8762725b9945c11d93b40546fe1
     
  8. Frank Facer

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    Bennett has named Pangai Junior on the bench again. I think he is their best forward and should definitely be in their starting line up. I am wondering if the fact that he hasn't officially resigned with Brisbane and is named on the bench may be an indication that Pangai Junior may be headed to another club next season? If so, I hope it is us. Just a bit of food for thought.
     
  9. muzby

    muzby Village Idiot Staff Member

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    We named Kurt Mann on the bench.

    He must be off to Canterbury
     
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  10. Frank Facer

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    If Mary actually does play Mann on the bench this week and continues to do so, then I wouldn't blame him one bit if he looked for a permanent first grade spot elsewhere.

    As I said, I think Pangai is Brisbane's best forward. If I was selecting their team, he would be the first forward picked. If he isn't staying in Brisbane, then maybe that would explain why Bennett isn't picking him in the starting line up. He was on the bench last week too.
     
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  11. muzby

    muzby Village Idiot Staff Member

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    true.. these are your thoughts..

    but perhaps wayne doesn't share your view..
     
  12. Frank Facer

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    Yeah, perhaps Bennett thinks that Glenn, Thaiday, Su'a and Lodge are all better than Pangai? lol
     
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  13. AyiosYiorgos

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    I'd say Bennett is not pushing him to hard, letting he's body develop into the 1st grade roll..
     
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  14. muzby

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    Bennett has 7 premiership rings.

    I think that adds weight to his perceptions vs yours..
     
  15. Bests Golden Boots

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    I dunno, he thought Nokorima was better option than Hunt, maybe age is getting to him?
     
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  16. Frank Facer

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    Yeah, and 6 of those premiership rings were when he had more than a full team of representative players. If I coached Brisbane for the first 18 years that Bennett coached them with the players he had, I would have jewellery box full premiership rings. I would be known as the greatest coach ever. You would have even had a collection of premiership rings if you had coached Brisbane for those 18 years. Funny that Bennett hasn't added to his collection of premiership rings since 2011. I doubt that he will be adding any more to his collection in the future either.

    So do you think that Glenn, Thaiday, S'ua and Lodge are all better than Pangai Junior? Do you think that any of them are better than Pangai Junior? What is your view?
     
  17. Frank Facer

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    And then after letting Hunt go, Bennett went and signed Bird for 1 mil a season. lol Just imagine if Mary and Doust did that? Our forum would be in meltdown. The sack Mary and Doust threads would have been pumping to the max.
     
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  18. Belta

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    Could it be the case that some coaches see thier team benefit more having certain forwards coming off the bench?

    Is a forward picked continuously on the bench seen as less valuable to your team than your starting five?

    I think of Ah Mau when I ask these questions. If Ah Mau had not signed with the Warriors would he receive less interest from clubs because of the fact he was rarely picked as a starting forward?

    And finally, does a forward really mind being permanently picked as a sub each week?

    Who knows perhaps it was a unpublicised reason for Ah Mau leaving. I believe family was the main reason. It would be interesting, however, to be mind reader and answer this, or even a fly on the wall to hear in house conversations between Ah Mau and Mary over his departure. Perhaps an interesting area of debate or maybe a ‘nothing to see hear people, move-a-long’ myth.

    If there is something in this argument than perhaps TPJ could be disgruntled and if so I really hope we are one of the clubs chasing him.
     
  19. Frank Facer

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    I know that Supercoach isn't everything when assessing a players performance, but when Pangai has been starting in games he is scoring very well, but when he is coming off the bench, his scores are often much lower, than when he is starting. I was set to put him in my team last week, for the rest of the season, but when he was named on the bench, I decided against buying him last week. I have already got him penciled in for my next year's team as a keeper, as long as he is starting.

    I too hope that we are one of the clubs chasing his signature. I hope that we already have him signed and sealed, but are keeping it under wraps until Brisbane are out of the competition. I can dream.
     
  20. Belta

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    Frank Facer said;

    “I know that Supercoach isn't everything when assessing a players performance, but when Pangai has been starting in games he is scoring very well, but when he is coming off the bench, his scores are often much lower, than when he is starting. I was set to put him in my team last week, for the rest of the season, but when he was named on the bench, I decided against buying him last week. I have already got him penciled in for my next year's team as a keeper, as long as he is starting.

    I too hope that we are one of the clubs chasing his signature. I hope that we already have him signed and sealed, but are keeping it under wraps until Brisbane are out of the competition. I can dream.”
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    I have to be honest and confess my ignorance in relation to the Fantasy League, but I’m with you in hoping we have a quality forward signed (or at least ear marked) if not TPJ than Klemmer it Tapau will do. Got a gut feeling we don’t though, unlike many other clubs I hear crickets coming out of the Dragons recruitment office
     
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