Yep and exactly why I said, are you on drugs? This somewhat straw-man hypothetical dream you have made up says you would choose, “more than 5-8 teams if you include Asia and South Africa in front of png on the proviso that they take up rugby league?
Firstly unless you think I'm straw-manning myself you don't know what a straw-man is.
Secondly I never said anything that you go on to claim that I said (which is strange considering that you quoted my post inside your post, it's also ironic considering that could be considered as you attempting to straw-man me...).
I said- "There're at least 5-8 places that are better placed to support an NRL team then PNG,
more if you count places in Asia, South Africa, etc", so even without including places such as Asian cities, South African cities, etc, that could hypothetically support a club there are still at least 5-8 cities in Aus and NZ in front of PNG.
I also gave relatively specific circumstances under which I'd let Asian, South African, etc, cities into the comp ahead of a PNG team when I said of said Asian and South African cities- "that may not be interested in ever supporting a team but hypothetically could in a Wolfpack style situation or if the NRL were to attempt to aggressively take a share of their sports market...", none of that alludes to them taking up RL prior to them getting a club, in fact it alludes only to the potential clubs financial situation and their economic value to the NRL...
You do know that the entire png country already “support” rugby league.
Which means absolute jack shit when just under 40% of PNGs' population lives under the poverty line and a large portion of the population that doesn't live under the poverty line still couldn't afford a ticket to the footy on a regular basis even if they were only about AU$5.00 a game!
It means f**k all when the PNG broadcasting rights and the PNG broadcasting market isn't worth a pie and a can of coke to the vast majority of advertisers!
I could go on but honestly I can't be bothered....
But yet you bring up hypotheticals?
Hypothetical about potential clubs that could exist in a practical sense yes.
Kind of like prior to the Wolfpack the idea of a Toronto based club in the RFL system would have been ridiculous, but hypothetically Toronto could have supported a club...
Not an “ideal” at all. I’m interested in facts. The facts are png has 8 mil rugby league players/fans and with the right funding structure it can be great for the rugby league and for png people.
8 mil fans almost none of whom can afford the product...
And when the "funding structure" is as volatile and dangerous as is being suggested, frankly I'm not interest!
If a Singapore/Asian company wants exposure in the Aus market they have 16 current teams that would be happy to do it!!
You really didn't understand what I was saying... But whatever it's really neither here nor there and I can't be bothered with it frankly.
I agree the biggest issue would be the social issues in png but this could be the start of a big change.
Nope, the biggest issue would be financial security.
But when that funding helps promote a women’s Nrl png team and programs that are delivered throughout png to change the serious women’s issues throughout the country? You don’t think that’s beneficial? I personally think the Nrl would do a better job with that money than giving it to a png gov minister. Maybe you don’t agree. You do realize the Australian gov already do fund afl, Nrl, netball, cricket and other sporting programs all around the pacific. So redirecting a little extra is hardly a issue.
As an aside PNG has much, much, much bigger issues then "women's issues throughout the country" (if anything "women's issues" are symptoms of the large structural issues within their nation, like the extreme poverty, lack of basic amenities for large portions of the population, general rates of violence (cause you know violence isn't only inflicted on women and focusing only on violence that is inflicted on women is just f**king stupid and frankly discriminatory, but I know it's only sexist when men do it and all that jazz), etc), but even so any actual effect that a professional women's football team would have on said issues would be extremely negligible at best, but I digress.
I don't have a problem with national funding going to international sports programs, but if you cannot recognise what a precarious position that the NRL would be put in not only politically but financially from the suggested situation then there's no helping you!
You have created an alternate reality in this hypothetical dream of yours because you feel support is just financial. Never mind the fact that you would have to spend bazillions $$ just to get people thinking of playing in those countries you allude to.
When it comes to PROFESSIONAL sports the finances of it is extremely important, cause if it isn't a viable business then nobody gets paid and you can't really call it professional at that point...
Also you don't need a local populace to be playing the sport to set up pro clubs there, you only need the local populace to be interested in paying to see the spectacle and have the means to actually do so, and that is where a PNG falls down and Asian counties, etc, have one over them...
Look I think it’s easier to agree to disagree but one final thing....
Would you accept the Aus gov giving the Nrl $20/$50/$100 mil to fund social programs throughout png? Money they would give to other companies doing the same thing?
Depends on the programs, who and which local authorities are involved and how they are involved, and what if any impact it would have on the NRL and Australia.
