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Possible season change

The Engineers Room

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Both ESL and NRL adopt the same season format for league

Teams divided into two pools of 8 each (Pools can be given significant names?)

Division may be regional, rivalry or random

Each team plays the teams in their pool twice (14 games)

Then the season has the “Mid-season break”

This can be used to play State of Origin, Challenge Cup Finals and international fixures

Top 4 teams in each pool go into the upper pool and the bottom 4 into the lower pool (once again the names of these pools can be significant)

Teams retain their current points

Teams play each team in their new pool once

Top 6 of the upper pool automatically qualify for the finals (in their positions 1-6)

Top 2 of lower pool play bottom 2 of the upper 2 in an eliminaton weekend. There are a two possible ways to decide who plays who:

1. Team number 7 of the upper pool calls out the team from the lower pool they want and the other two play off

2. Team number 7 of the upper pool play team 2 of the lower pool and team 8 of the upper pool play team 1 of the lower pool

Then the top 8 plays in the NRL McIntyre System (eg 1v4; 2v3; 5v8 & 6v7 etc..)


The advantages of this system are:

· There are 21 rounds thus allowing for a dedicated international window and stand-alone Origin game/s or Challenge Cup finals

· Depending on how the pools are set, there is opportunity to ensure at least 2 rivalry games against most teams rivals and thus maximise these games which everyone wants to see and will bring in bigger crowds

· Games in the last part of the season are more likely to not be dead rubbers. Most if not all games will be important. Teams in the upper pool are fighting for the important top 4 or trying to avoid the elimination weekend. Teams in the lower pool are fighting to make those top two spots. If the ESL still wants promotion/relegation this is possible and makes the lower pool the decider as the team/s that finish at the bottom in danger.

The NRL finals system is retained.
 

T-Boon

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I’ll wait for T-Boon’s reassessment of this.

I replied in the cave where I lurk a lot.

It is a good idea. It has two fatal flaws though....1. It is an idea; and 2 it is different to what is the status quo. Rugby League is where ideas go to die.
 
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Iafeta

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Tl,dr. Is the correct summary here it's an outrageous crazy off-season bait idea, and to improve it, more time to be spent on the silver pillows, less time posting ?
 
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We ditched the McIntyre system as people found it too confusing. I very much doubt the NRL will go back to it anytime in the foreseeable future.

The pools format? Can't see that happening as we only just have gotten a full season fixed term draw In the NRL, and now you suggest moving away from it? No thanks.
 

mistertaylor

Juniors
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Both ESL and NRL adopt the same season format for league

Teams divided into two pools of 8 each (Pools can be given significant names?)

Division may be regional, rivalry or random

Each team plays the teams in their pool twice (14 games)

Then the season has the “Mid-season break”

This can be used to play State of Origin, Challenge Cup Finals and international fixures

Top 4 teams in each pool go into the upper pool and the bottom 4 into the lower pool (once again the names of these pools can be significant)

Teams retain their current points

Teams play each team in their new pool once

Top 6 of the upper pool automatically qualify for the finals (in their positions 1-6)

Top 2 of lower pool play bottom 2 of the upper 2 in an eliminaton weekend. There are a two possible ways to decide who plays who:

1. Team number 7 of the upper pool calls out the team from the lower pool they want and the other two play off

2. Team number 7 of the upper pool play team 2 of the lower pool and team 8 of the upper pool play team 1 of the lower pool

Then the top 8 plays in the NRL McIntyre System (eg 1v4; 2v3; 5v8 & 6v7 etc..)


The advantages of this system are:

· There are 21 rounds thus allowing for a dedicated international window and stand-alone Origin game/s or Challenge Cup finals

· Depending on how the pools are set, there is opportunity to ensure at least 2 rivalry games against most teams rivals and thus maximise these games which everyone wants to see and will bring in bigger crowds

· Games in the last part of the season are more likely to not be dead rubbers. Most if not all games will be important. Teams in the upper pool are fighting for the important top 4 or trying to avoid the elimination weekend. Teams in the lower pool are fighting to make those top two spots. If the ESL still wants promotion/relegation this is possible and makes the lower pool the decider as the team/s that finish at the bottom in danger.

The NRL finals system is retained.

Similar to a previous post of mine from August...

How does this sound.
R1-R15. All teams play each other once.
3 week break for Origin.
R16-R22. Top 8 teams play each other once. Top 6 progress to finals series in spots 1-6 respectively. Meanwhile, bottom 8 teams play each other once.
R23. Top 2 from Bottom8 group play bottom 2 from the Top8 to decide the last 2 finalists. Top 6 enjoy the week off.
FINALS SERIES PER CURRENT FORMAT.

Thoughts?
 
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mistertaylor

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Tl,dr. Is the correct summary here it's an outrageous crazy off-season bait idea, and to improve it, more time to be spent on the silver pillows, less time posting ?
It's actually got more pros than cons, definitely worth a read. However as TBoon said, it goes against the status quo so would never happen in NRL in our lifetime :-(
 

T-Boon

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Similar to a previous post of mine from August...

How does this sound.
R1-R15. All teams play each other once.
3 week break for Origin.
R16-R22. Top 8 teams play each other once. Top 6 progress to finals series in spots 1-6 respectively. Meanwhile, bottom 8 teams play each other once.
R23. Top 2 from Bottom8 group play bottom 2 from the Top8 to decide the last 2 finalists. Top 6 enjoy the week off.
FINALS SERIES PER CURRENT FORMAT.

Thoughts?

Not bad, but The Engine Rooms is similar but better because you would have a lot more rivalry games.
 

Charlie124

First Grade
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The only way forward for the NRL is as follows:
  • Expand the competition to 104 teams (1 in Brisbane).
  • Extend the season to 52 weeks.
  • No byes.
  • Competition points will be replaced by Bitcoin.
  • All three State of Origin games are played back to back at Suncorp Stadium in a Super Saturday style format straight after round 10’s NRL games.
  • Scrap international fixtures altogether.
  • Gender Equality Round - Men vs Women.
  • Daniel Morcombe Rememberence Round - All teams wear identical red shirts and jeans.
It’s the only logical solution.
 

ed-grimley

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Similar to a previous post of mine from August...

How does this sound.
R1-R15. All teams play each other once.
3 week break for Origin.
R16-R22. Top 8 teams play each other once. Top 6 progress to finals series in spots 1-6 respectively. Meanwhile, bottom 8 teams play each other once.
R23. Top 2 from Bottom8 group play bottom 2 from the Top8 to decide the last 2 finalists. Top 6 enjoy the week off.
FINALS SERIES PER CURRENT FORMAT.

Thoughts?
Makes total sense to me.
 

hunters

Juniors
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Similar to a previous post of mine from August...

How does this sound.
R1-R15. All teams play each other once.
3 week break for Origin.
R16-R22. Top 8 teams play each other once. Top 6 progress to finals series in spots 1-6 respectively. Meanwhile, bottom 8 teams play each other once.
R23. Top 2 from Bottom8 group play bottom 2 from the Top8 to decide the last 2 finalists. Top 6 enjoy the week off.
FINALS SERIES PER CURRENT FORMAT.

Thoughts?
My thoughts are that if you're running around 7th - 9th by round 12 you have little motivation to win your next few games so you can coast through the bottom teams for the next 6 rounds.

Would also be a programming nightmare not knowing who is playing who until the top eight is set.
 

ed-grimley

Bench
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The only way forward for the NRL is as follows:
  • Expand the competition to 104 teams (1 in Brisbane).
  • Extend the season to 52 weeks.
  • No byes.
  • Competition points will be replaced by Bitcoin.
  • All three State of Origin games are played back to back at Suncorp Stadium in a Super Saturday style format straight after round 10’s NRL games.
  • Scrap international fixtures altogether.
  • Gender Equality Round - Men vs Women.
  • Daniel Morcombe Rememberence Round - All teams wear identical red shirts and jeans.
It’s the only logical solution.
SOO players should have no prior connection to the state they ultimately play for.
 

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