Queensland stick solid.

[OldPanther]

Hypothetically, will QLD stick with this side if they lose on Wednesday? Milford aside, they aren't missing anyone of note.

You'd think ao. It's a good team who will only really lose if NSW play better, through luck or both.

 

[DJShaksta]

Couldn't they afford air travel?

One of the true born and bred queenslanders told us planes don't fly in the rain so they stick with trains.

 

[betcats]

holmes is a better player.

selecting Oates again is like NSW selecting BMorris again when it's obvious NSW have better players to play on the wing.

besides, although Oates didn't too much wrong, he was largely nullified throughout the match by NSW tactical kicking. He couldn't help out on 2nd or 3rd tackles as a winger should.

Boyd normally runs it back for the Broncos and Oates would likely take the next carry if it's close to his side of the field. Oates can't stand up the defence on a return and he provided no challenge for NSW chase defence in Game 1. NSW also prevented any return impact Boyd could have, and any '6th' forward carries Oates could provide.

Now, QLD willll have 3 players at the back who will be effective returners. The weakness of Oates here is gone.

I agree Holmes is better I'm not saying he is a bad selection by any means but 3 weeks they went with Oates for whatever reason and he did the job and was one their best and they've dropped him for a guy in a similar stage of his career.

Anyway it just seems desperate to me despite the reasons.

 

[Spot On]

It's like talking to a brick wall sometimes on this forum.

Fact - QLD loyalty is a myth. They will drop anyone if it will make them better.

Ask Oates, Thaiday, Harrison and plenty more.

You can carry on with your cool stories about some guy who used to post in the Knights section and the amount of players that NSW have used, but since they're not relevant to this discussion don't expect a reply.

'Dodged questions' LOL!

How many players did NSW use from 06 onwards SSS?

You really don't want to post that list do you.

Back under ya rock.

Why didn't QLD make the changes they have now mafe before Game 1?

You don't want to answer that question do you.

Stetson = under a rock for the last decade. Dodging questions. Soft.

 

[Stephen 'Stevo' Stevenson]

LOL!

Can't read, constantly repeating herself.

Obvious autism.

 

[Spot On]

Or you could respond to the 2 questions you keep dodging.

Why so reluctant?

Back under ya rock Stetson.

 

[big hit!]

I agree Holmes is better I'm not saying he is a bad selection by any means but 3 weeks they went with Oates for whatever reason and he did the job and was one their best and they've dropped him for a guy in a similar stage of his career.

Anyway it just seems desperate to me despite the reasons.

so you're advocating they take the approach of selections as they did for game 1? most folks were saying that they erred in game 1 selections. they basically just selected the players that were there last series, purely because they won last series.

you're conveniently overlooking how NSW targeted Oates. he didn't make any obvious mistakes, but targeting him for kick returns ensured that QLD weakest returner continually brought the ball back, and wearing him down made him redundant and weakened the QLD ability to generate any momentum in the second half.

this is the team that should be there. slater should always have been there. holmes should always have been there. forwards needed new blood. how you can debate that if you had the option to select Holmes or Oates again, you'd still select Oates is baffling.

 

[TheFrog]

Can't read, constantly repeating herself.

Obvious autism.

Clearly you don't know much about autism.

 

[OldPanther]

How many players did NSW use from 06 onwards SSS?

You really don't want to post that list do you.

Back under ya rock.

Why didn't QLD make the changes they have now mafe before Game 1?

You don't want to answer that question do you.

Stetson = under a rock for the last decade. Dodging questions. Soft.

The amount of players NSW has used is irrelevant to QLD "loyalty".

 

[Spot On]

QLD have continually bagged NSW for making changes to their side over the past decade have they not?

 

[OldPanther]

QLD have continually bagged NSW for making changes to their side over the past decade have they not?

No idea. What's the point your trying to make?

 

[Spot On]

you're - not your

The point is that a few in here are totally unaware of the criticisms placed on NSW from QLDers. Some LU users have obviously been under a rock for a decade and just found an interest in RL the past year or so. One of the main criticisms QLD have had of NSW is that they failed to copy what QLD have done so well with their selection policy the past decade or so.

If Stetson would list the players NSW has used the past decade he would get an idea of why the QLDers have been critical of NSW employing the opposite selection policy to them.

C'mon Stetson, paste the list of NSW players since '06.

Why didn't QLD make the changes they have for Game 2 before this series kicked off?

 

[OldPanther]

you're - not your

The point is that a few in here are totally unaware of the criticisms placed on NSW from QLDers. Some LU users have obviously been under a rock for a decade and just found an interest in RL the past year or so. One of the main criticisms QLD have had of NSW is that they failed to copy what QLD have done so well with their selection policy the past decade or so.

If Stetson would list the players NSW has used the past decade he would get an idea of why the QLDers have been critical of NSW employing the opposite selection policy to them.

C'mon Stetson, paste the list of NSW players since '06.

Why didn't QLD make the changes they have for Game 2 before this series kicked off?

Oops, typo.

Here, list from 2007 from wiki:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_South_Wales_State_of_Origin_players

200. Jarryd Hayne 2007 Game 1
201. Jarrod Mullen 2007 Game 1
202. Brett White 2007 Game 1
203. Kurt Gidley 2007 Game 1
204. Anthony Tupou 2007 Game 1
205. Brett Stewart 2007 Game 2
206. Greg Bird 2007 Game 2
207. Ryan Hoffman 2007 Game 2
208. Hazem El Masri 2007 Game 3
209. Anthony Quinn 2008 Game 1
210. Peter Wallace 2008 Game 1
211. Ben Cross 2008 Game 1
212. Anthony Laffranchi 2008 Game 1
213. Steve Turner 2008 Game 2
214. Joel Monaghan 2008 Game 3
215. Mitchell Pearce 2008 Game 3
216. Terry Campese 2009 Game 1
217. Ben Creagh 2009 Game 1
218. Robbie Farah 2009 Game 1
219. Michael Jennings 2009 Game 1
220. James McManus 2009 Game 1
221. Justin Poore 2009 Game 1
222. Michael Weyman 2009 Game 1
223. Josh Morris 2009 Game 2
224. Glenn Stewart 2009 Game 2
225. David Williams 2009 Game 2
226. Michael Ennis 2009 Game 3
227. Tom Learoyd-Lahrs 2009
228. Jamal Idris 2010 Game 1
229. Brett Morris 2010 Game 1
230. Beau Scott 2010 Game 2
231. Michael Gordon 2010 Game 3
232. Jason King 2010 Game 3 Manly
233. Tim Mannah 2010 Game 3
234. Kade Snowden 2010 Game 3
235. Josh Dugan 2011 Game 1
236. Trent Merrin 2011 Game 1
237. Jamie Soward 2011 Game 1
238. Akuila Uate 2011 Game 1
239. Dean Young 2011 Game 1
240. Will Hopoate 2011 Game 2
241. Keith Galloway 2011 Game 3
242. Jamie Buhrer 2012 Game 1
243. Todd Carney 2012 Game 1
244. James Tamou 2012 Game 1
245. Tony Williams 2012 Game 1
246. Tim Grant 2012 Game 2
247. Blake Ferguson 2013 Game 1
248. Andrew Fifita 2013 Game 1
249. James Maloney 2013 Game 1
250. Nathan Merritt 2013 Game 2
251. Josh Reynolds 2013 Game 2
252. Aaron Woods 2013 Game 2
253. Boyd Cordner 2013 Game 3
254. Trent Hodkinson 2014 Game 1
255. Daniel Tupou 2014 Game 1
256. Josh Jackson 2015 Game 1
257. David Klemmer 2015 Game 1
258. Josh Mansour 2016 Game 1
259. Matt Moylan 2016 Game 1
260. Adam Reynolds 2016 Game 1
261. Dylan Walker 2016 Game 1
262. Jack Bird 2016 Game 2
263. Tyson Frizell 2016 Game 2
264. James Tedesco 2016 Game 3
265. Wade Graham 2016 Game 3
266. Nathan Peats 2017 game 1
267. Jake Trbojevic 2017 game 1

 

[Spot On]

Go from 2006.

 

[Spot On]

....and while you are at it, doing Stetson's Google work, tell us why didn't the QLD selectors make the changes they have now made before game 1 this year?

 

[OldPanther]

....and while you are at it, doing Stetson's Google work, tell us why didn't the QLD selectors make the changes they have now made before game 1 this year?

2006:

197. Eric Grothe, Jr. 2006 Game 1
198. Luke O'Donnell 2006 Game 1
199. Paul Gallen 2006 Game 3

As for your question about QLD that should be obvious. They remained loyal to success. They were fielding one of the best teams to ever step on the field. I keep saying that the change this year is a matter of time not disloyalty. Age was always going to get them eventually.

 

[Spot On]

Ah loyalty. Yes it is obvious to most of us. Not to those who've missed the QLD mantra spewing from north of the boarder for over a decade.

Clap, clap, clap.

Well done.

 

[OldPanther]

Ah loyalty. Yes it is obvious to most of us. Not to those who've missed the QLD mantra spewing from north of the boarder for over a decade.

Clap, clap, clap.

Well done.

I can't tell whether that's serious or condescension? Did you get what you wanted out of the list?

 

[OldPanther]

Well this thread died pretty quick.

 

[billygilmore]

Ah loyalty. Yes it is obvious to most of us. Not to those who've missed the QLD mantra spewing from north of the boarder for over a decade.

Clap, clap, clap.

Well done.

Mate sounds like you've really eaten up this loyalty crap spewed forth from qld media, to me that includes players and coaches involved with the qld team, it's all part of drumming up theatre and attention to get more people watching the game.
Yes there's people on here that have harped on about qld loyalty but I've always viewed it as trolling to be honest, us qlders can turn on a player we view as underperforming or playing out of position with the best of em, just ask Cherry Evans, Dave Taylor, Carl Webb, Locky, Petero, Price after game 1 06, Myles the last couple of years, Boyd at fullback over Slater, Slater at fullback over Inglis at times, Shillington, Neilson, O'Neil, the list goes on and on as it would on the NSW side of things.
I've said it and I'll say it again, our qld team appears as loyal and gets away with saying it (especially when where winning) because we usually have a complete lack of depth compared to NSW, a case of who else we gonna pick more often than blind loyalty.