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Raiders furious about GWS grant

El Diablo

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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/raiders-furious-about-gws-grant-20120519-1yxva.html

Raiders furious about GWS grant
Jon Tuxworth
May 20, 2012

THE TURF war between the Canberra Raiders and Greater Western Sydney has spilled into the Riverina, with Raiders boss Don Furner labelling the AFL as mercenaries following Wagga City Council's decision to pile $300,000 into the Giants' coffers.

A three-year deal was struck last week for the GWS to host pre-season games and community camps in Wagga, but the Raiders privately feel the Giants are holding the city to ransom.

The Raiders are fuming after spending 30 years staging regular pre-season trials and helping develop talent in the Riverina for no financial reward.

The NRL club played the Bulldogs in a pre-season trial in February which raised well over $40,000, all of which was used to improve the facilities at Wagga's multi-sport complex Equex Centre.

NRL chief David Gallop will meet with the Wagga council about what he perceives as favourable treatment toward the AFL.

In March, Furner said it would be a ''joke'' if GWS called Canberra home on the back of a $26 million agreement to play four games a season in the capital for ten years.

''We're very keen to ask questions as to why [this agreement has happened], after we've been a supporter of that region for so long and doing it off our own steam,'' Furner said.

''We've not put our hand out, and to be brutally honest it highlights how mercenary the AFL is, they're very aggressive.

''I tend to get disappointed because I feel that they certainly throw the 'community' word around a lot … well we're two hours from Wagga, we recruit a lot of players and play trials there.

''Certainly we want to catch up with the Wagga council, put our case forward and say 'what are we doing wrong'.''

Around $30,000 was spent by the council to cover the accommodation and travel costs of the Bulldogs and Raiders in February, with all profits from the match remaining with Wagga rugby league.

''The reasons why clubs like us and the Bulldogs take games out to the country is it gives that region a chance to make some money,'' Furner said. ''The money stays there for the benefit of the sport, and it's a way we can give something back.''

Current Raiders squad members such as Glen Buttriss and Josh McCrone are Riverina products, while past players such as Simon Woolford, Luke Davico, Brett Mullins and Laurie Daley all hail from the region.

''If we take a kid from the Riverina and bring him into our system, we have to pay a $5000 development fee and that money goes straight back into country rugby league,'' Furner said.

''We and the Bulldogs inadvertently raised about $50,000 in that area and we didn't take the money out of the town, the local rugby league invested it into the Equex Centre. That is a council-owned property, and we helped raise money for it.''

Gallop said in Wagga's The Daily Advertiser he would be seeking answers on the logic behind the council's decision.

''I know that the local leagues would like to understand just what the terms of the council investment are and we would certainly be interested in talking with the council to see why there is not similar support for rugby league,'' Gallop said. ''It is certainly an unusual step for a council to invest in a Sydney AFL club that already boasts publicly about its financial backing.''
 

El Diablo

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the AFL have to be the biggest scabs going around

this GWS mob have scabbed roughly $100 million from governments and councils and they offer nothing in return

thieves
 

El Diablo

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http://www.dailyadvertiser.com.au/news/local/news/business/please-explain/2560569.aspx

Please explain
PAMELA WHALEY
18 May, 2012 07:30 AM

DEMANDING answers, NRL boss David Gallop yesterday asked questions about Wagga City Council’s (WCC) controversial decision to provide AFL giant GWS with $300,000 of funding during the next three years.

Responding to an overwhelming backlash from Wagga residents on The Daily Advertiser website, Gallop yesterday admitted he was “disappointed” the NRL had not received equal treatment from WCC.

Gallop insisted the NRL had provided a huge amount of support with trial games, clinics and visits to Wagga recently and had not asked for large levels of funding in return.

“I know that the local leagues would like to understand just what the terms of the council investment are and we would certainly be interested in talking with the council to see why there is not similar support for rugby league,” Gallop said yesterday.

“It is certainly an unusual step for a council to invest in a Sydney AFL club that already boasts publicly about its financial backing.

“Rugby league players, teams and officials have visited Wagga through any number of occasions from community carnivals, to trials, City-Country and flood relief and that hasn’t involved seeking large levels financial support from the council.

“Any support that has come has been to support the event itself.

“The CRL have funded under 16s and under 18s Riverina academies in Wagga for some years without council support, so again to see similar projects now funded by council warrants some discussion.”

Gallop admits $30,000 of WCC funding went into staging the successful NRL trial game at Equex Centre in March, all of which went to providing facilities for the game and improving the financial condition of rugby league in Wagga.

“When Canberra and the Bulldogs played a trial there this year the council contributed $30,000 to the staging of the event, which went into providing facilities for the game at (Equex Centre),” he said.

“The match itself raised further money for the facilities over and above the economic benefits it brought to the city that weekend.

“To suggest that rugby league clubs have demanded $200,000 to play a game in Wagga is completely misleading and it is disappointing that the council has sought to justify the decision in such a way. Comparing the costs of a Telstra Premiership game with a pre-season trial is clearly erroneous.”
 

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The Raiders have every reason to be pissed off.

GWS are only playing in Canberra because they couldn't pull the numbers for a full 11 game home season in Sydney. They're there solely to supplement their coffers with government cash whereas the Raiders are a real ACT/Southern NSW team who have a legacy spanning 3 decades.
 

Ziggy the God

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How about Gallop gets out of his office and ensures this doesn't happen.

Again, he has been blindsided by the AFL. It is his role to be on top of all the political machinations as the supposed CEO. He again lets the game lose out.

Quite simple, the NRL needs to let the Council know that they can kiss any further games goodbye, and back whomever is the opposition in the next election with promises to bring the game back if they win.

Then watch them squirm.

Yeah I know, cue the Gallop supporters.
 

Lockyer4President!

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I'm sure we'll see the Tassie government pitch in half a million to see Melbourne play some pre-season games down there...

Seriously though, good to see Gallop arcing up straight away.

I have to wonder how all of these shady deals are done. Sydney now has three AFL stadiums when their crowds are the lowest they've been for decades.

QLD just built a brand new stadium, despite voter backlash after they announced they were doing so, and the support here is even worse than the Swans.

Then we have ridiculous situations like this. Hope whoever signed off on this loses their job.
 

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The locals on that Daily Advertiser site (bar the obvious troll posts which stand out like tits on a bull) seem pretty pissed.

The role of local councils is to use their rates for services that better the community, not to give to sporting teams that can make their own money (that goes for all major sporting leagues). It's like when that card carrying imbecile that used to be Blacktown mayor got the shits that they didnt have an NRL team so he threw cash at that new AFL joint while improvements that needed to be done at League and Netball grounds went undone. Not to mention kicking Rugby League off of Francis Park.
 

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The AFL has spent something like 60M+ on establishing the side and they still get a grants from the local ratepayers??
 

Tommax25

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The thing I don't get is how this is happening. Before, when things were happening for AFL that the public were opposed to I assumed it was simply that the AFL was greasing the wheels with the stupid money they are throwing at the new NSW/QLD teams. Then we have this were someone is PAYING THEM for something the public doesn't want. I don't understand. I feel like someone, somewhere with an reach Australia wide has decided they want AFL to be the dominant sport everywhere and is making sure it gets there by ramming it down our throats, despite clear opposition. Please, someone, explain this to me.
 

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Hopefully we can have a laugh about it in a few years time as the Giants struggle to balance commitments between western sydney, canberra, wagga wagga, central qld, the pilbara and shanghai. Friends to all but precious to none.
 

El Diablo

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How about Gallop gets out of his office and ensures this doesn't happen.

Again, he has been blindsided by the AFL. It is his role to be on top of all the political machinations as the supposed CEO. He again lets the game lose out.

Quite simple, the NRL needs to let the Council know that they can kiss any further games goodbye, and back whomever is the opposition in the next election with promises to bring the game back if they win.

Then watch them squirm.

Yeah I know, cue the Gallop supporters.

why would the NRL demand money for playing there?

judging by the 6 pages of comments on the Daily Advertiser website the locals are furious at $300k being spent on a sports team from Sydney

the AFL sign off on a $1.25 billion TV deal then somehow still scab money off councils and governments to get even more money

there is surely something crooked going on with that mob

just look at who they approached to get the NSW Labor government to do a backflip and give them $45 million for the GWS ground

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/45m-waste-of-money-for-a-second-afl-home-20100608-xr1a.html
The project was lobbied for by the disgraced former state development minister, Ian Macdonald
 

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Lol nrl doesn't ask for anything then screams when afl does ask and receives. Maybe if gallop was proactive and actually approached these places for grants and deals the money would be flowing into rl not afl. Don't blame your rival for being a better businessman than you gallop!
 

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Lol nrl doesn't ask for anything then screams when afl does ask and receives. Maybe if gallop was proactive and actually approached these places for grants and deals the money would be flowing into rl not afl. Don't blame your rival for being a better businessman than you gallop!

None of that adequately explains why a club from Western Sydney should receive $300,000 from a council in Wagga Wagga.

It's not like the AFL club actually needs the money either.
 

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Lol nrl doesn't ask for anything then screams when afl does ask and receives. Maybe if gallop was proactive and actually approached these places for grants and deals the money would be flowing into rl not afl. Don't blame your rival for being a better businessman than you gallop!

We shouldn't be asking local councils to fund development opportunities for rugby league. Rugby League and AFL should both be in a position to fund these types of things for the benefit of the communities involved. There is no way sporting organisations the size of the NRL and AFL should be raping the resources of country communities.
 

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F*ck off AFL spanker. You say nothing of the fact that the Raiders have been putting heaps INTO that community, while your beloved bullsh*t sport AFL takes out.

If you think that David Gallops job is to ask for money from every council that mows a RL ground then you are a bigger idiot - if that is possible - than I originally thought.

Lets not forget the promotion opportunities that RL gives them through ABC live national broadcasts of their GF.
 

El Diablo

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We shouldn't be asking local councils to fund development opportunities for rugby league. Rugby League and AFL should both be in a position to fund these types of things for the benefit of the communities involved. There is no way sporting organisations the size of the NRL and AFL should be raping the resources of country communities.

exactly
 

Perth Red

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People are so flicking naive, this is business, nrl and afl are businesses. Alls fair in love,war and business. At least be honest, your pushed because its afl getting the money, nrl needs to frisking wake up to the war we are in and grow some. Stop bitching about how successful the afl are in doing business and getting money into their sport and start doing the same gallop!

Let me give you another example, when they were looking at expanding s15 the ARU went to the WA govt and agreed to support a Perth franchise bid if the govt agreed to fund a $10 million training and admin centre for the rugby WA. Seeing the value in having a Perth RU team they agreed and they now have a brilliant facility. Do you think gallop has been having similar conversations re nrl expansion?
 
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