RD 22: Parramatta Eels v Canberra at TIO Stadium Darwin 8.30pm AEST 9/8/14

[oldmancraigy]

:lol: Cheeky bugger!

sorry!

 

[Joely01]

I don't think "anyone" could have scored that try, but a player with some speed would have.

But it takes nothing away from Hayne - to change direction like that and accelerate away like he did...sublime.

It wasn't just the speed.

It's the way he can turn either with so much speed, or change direction and how quick he is able to get speed going.
Not many players can do that in the comp

 

[DOGS AND EELS!!!]

Neither has played for Wenty this year. Paulo has played every NRL game too.

Not really after what the coach thinks, He's doing a good job but don't agree with him on those two.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

It wasn't just the speed.

It's the way he can turn either with so much speed, or change direction and how quick he is able to get speed going.
Not many players can do that in the comp

Also reads defenders well, so he usually puts on the step/swerve/surge/fend at just the right time. Merkin is an absolute freak.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Not really after what the coach thinks, He's doing a good job but don't agree with him on those two.

When I find myself disagreeing with a coach it means I probably lack knowledge and need to reassess my own understanding.

Even the dumbest NRL coach knows more than any of us, otherwise they wouldn't have gotten into coaching in the first place. There's no shortage of ex-players trying to get on the coaching staff of an NRL club.

 

[DOGS AND EELS!!!]

When I find myself disagreeing with a coach it means I probably lack knowledge and need to reassess my own understanding.

Even the dumbest NRL coach knows more than any of us, otherwise they wouldn't have gotten into coaching in the first place. There's no shortage of ex-players trying to get on the coaching staff of an NRL club.

When you follow state of origin as closely as I have, you tend to think the opposite. Here's probably the best example as to why:

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...ack-in-the-world/story-e6frexv9-1226086786810

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Also reads defenders well, so he usually puts on the step/swerve/surge/fend at just the right time. Merkin is an absolute freak.

Yep. And to have the speed, power and timing to carry it off, and know exactly what he can get away with. He's gotta weigh that stuff up in a fraction of a second, and I guess that's what makes a "footballer" not just an athlete. Fortunately for him, and us, he happens to be both,

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

When I find myself disagreeing with a coach it means I probably lack knowledge and need to reassess my own understanding.

Even the dumbest NRL coach knows more than any of us, otherwise they wouldn't have gotten into coaching in the first place. There's no shortage of ex-players trying to get on the coaching staff of an NRL club.

With this I don't agree so much. Plenty of idiots rise within their ranks for various reasons, not all of them ability.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

When you follow state of origin as closely as I have, you tend to think the opposite. Here's probably the best example as to why:

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...ack-in-the-world/story-e6frexv9-1226086786810

Just like every coach in the NRL, I rate Mitchell Pearce too. He's an excellent player and a premiership winner.

Not the best halfback in the world, but just because a coach said it doesn't mean he believes it.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

With this I don't agree so much. Plenty of idiots rise within their ranks for various reasons, not all of them ability.

How would you know whether or not they've got 'ability'? Some of them might not have the personality for coaching but all of them would have enough football knowledge.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

How would you know whether or not they've got 'ability'? Some of them might not have the personality for coaching but all of them would have enough football knowledge.

Well that's partly my point, isn't it? Football knowledge doesn't equal ability. People get promoted all the time, and they don't always work out.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Well that's partly my point, isn't it?

Well it's irrelevant to what I said. Lacking the correct personality for coaching doesn't mean the coach is an idiot, or that he doesn't understand the game.

If a player retires and gets a job on a club's coaching staff it's because he has shown he spent his career learning the intricacies of the game. If he has a flaw it wouldn't be lack of knowledge.

Football knowledge doesn't equal ability. People get promoted all the time, and they don't always work out.

Right, but football knowledge does equal football knowledge. So if I find myself disagreeing with a coach it probably means I'm the one who lacks football knowledge. That is true no matter how unsuited a professional coach's personality is to the job of coaching. He still knows his stuff.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Well it's irrelevant to what I said. Lacking the correct personality for coaching doesn't mean the coach is an idiot, or that he doesn't understand the game.

If a player retires and gets a job on a club's coaching staff it's because he has shown he spent his career learning the intricacies of the game. If he has a flaw it wouldn't be lack of knowledge.



Right, but football knowledge does equal football knowledge. So if I find myself disagreeing with a coach it probably means I'm the one who lacks football knowledge. That is true no matter how unsuited a professional coach's personality is to the job of coaching. He still knows his stuff.

Lacking the ability to form correct judgements based on your knowledge, or even to communicate that judgement, could also be termed ability. Plenty of "type A" personalities get ahead at many levels, but are often found wanting when responsibility is upped.

How strong is your "probably" here? I think you overestimate the ability of coaches to make correct judgements based on their football knowledge. They're swayed by the same things you and I are. Maybe, for whatever reason, they just don't like the guy.

It's just a game. A fairly simple game.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Good assessment, IAL,B.

It is wrong to assume that all coaches got to where they are based on their football knowledge. There are other factors at play when it comes to appointing coaching staff.

Assuming that they have more football knowledge than all fans, it is then wrong to further assume that they will use that knowledge to make correct decisions every time.

 

[strider]

Just like every coach in the NRL, I rate Mitchell Pearce too. He's an excellent player and a premiership winner.

Not the best halfback in the world, but just because a coach said it doesn't mean he believes it.

very true with ricky - master at the mind games :sarcasm: - says alot of shit, I assume not all of which he really believes (well for his sake I hope he doesn't totally believe it)

 

[DOGS AND EELS!!!]

Just like every coach in the NRL, I rate Mitchell Pearce too. He's an excellent player and a premiership winner.

Not the best halfback in the world, but just because a coach said it doesn't mean he believes it.

Any coach with half a brain cell would know the guy is a total failure at origin. He failed to force one drop out for the entire series, couldn't create a single overlap and buttered a 5 on 3 overlap. Thurston, Cronk, DCE, Hodkinson, Hunt, Sandow, Marshall, Sezer off the top of my head are much better then Pearce.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

He's a better defender than all those guys, plus he went better at right half than Josh Reynolds did.

 

[Gronk]

Who cares about Mitchell f**king Pierce.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Who cares about Mitchell f**king Pierce.

Wayne?

 

[hineyrulz]

Wayne?

Doubt it.