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Big Mick

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The amount of support Alamoti gets mystifies me. He is highly error prone and struggles with defensive reads. He was okay defensively (albeit against an ordinary attack) but was atrocious otherwise. It’s also not just a one off either.

He is a work in progress.

I think he had his worse game for us last night. 2 bad errors but think he's been ok otherwise.

However, I think he was more in this team for the last 2 weeks due to his goalkicking vs Dylan who is clearly struggling with the knee.

Now that Nathan would be back - I'd be tempted to throw Casey back in who imo showed he's up to this level. But whoever is at centre next week will be a huge test - Roosters centres will be tough.
 
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He has had the same disruptions our other backs have. Played a lot of wing in NSW cup too. I have a bit of sympathy for them to be honest.

32 career games and he turns 21 in January next year. Still very young and very much a work in progress. I think he will come good for us.
I think the young Eel will have the same troubles next year. Both amazing talents and I back them to come good longer term.
 

WestyLife

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I think he had his worse game for us last night. 2 bad errors but think he's been ok otherwise.

However, I think he was more in this team for the last 2 weeks due to his goalkicking vs Dylan who is clearly struggling with the knee.

Now that Nathan would be back - I'd be tempted to throw Casey back in who imo showed he's up to this level. But whoever is at centre next week will be a huge test - Roosters centres will be tough.

Juat gotta watch for Sualii shoulders to the head.
 

The Realist

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If use are wanting to Punt Tago I'd do it this off season. Is he really on 700k? You're going to need to chip in but someone will offer good money still.
Another poor season and they won't

No. Tago has shown he can be an Elite Centre. The guy didn't just lose ability. He has lost confidence combined with the big distraction of losing his best mate at the club.

I am backing him to come good - but he has got to want it and put in the work. Guess we will see come 2025.
 

Kilkenny

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No. Tago has shown he can be an Elite Centre. The guy didn't just lose ability. He has lost confidence combined with the big distraction of losing his best mate at the club.

I am backing him to come good - but he has got to want it and put in the work. Guess we will see come 2025.
Tago is suffering from a lack of offence and yes his confidence is probably down.

Our attack has really created few attacking opportunities for him so he has basically been reduced to being a battering ram.
 

The Realist

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Alamoti would be my winger next year

His post contact metres again last night was 2nd to To'o and having both wingers pumping out that keeps us a scary side

He'd better fix his hands though. He has 1-2 loose carries a game virtually every game.
 

Iamback

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He'd better fix his hands though. He has 1-2 loose carries a game virtually every game.

He is sitting at 13 errors from 13 games
McLean 7 from 7
May had 8 from 8

So you are going to get an error which ever way that goes. I said earlier the extra PCM and metres per run gets Alamoti the job

For the record Tago is at 33 errors in 23 games though with the most penalties in the team

That is why Tago gets the hate compared to a rookie
 

hindy111

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The amount of support Alamoti gets mystifies me. He is highly error prone and struggles with defensive reads. He was okay defensively (albeit against an ordinary attack) but was atrocious otherwise. It’s also not just a one off either.

He is a work in progress.

I think he is an average talent I think. He is strong but isn't that fast and hasn't got any real explosiveness about him.
C.Mclean will be a centre next year and most likely Tago the other. It leaves a wing spot for Alamoti. J.Mclean might push for it and I also didn't think Laurie wasn't horrid when tried there.
 

hindy111

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I think the young Eel will have the same troubles next year. Both amazing talents and I back them to come good longer term.

Blaize is an amazing talent. Was Alamoti the other your talking about? I just think he looks ok. Tago has been poor but he has genuine pace and explosiveness. Alamoti has power but bit sluggish. I wouldn't be suprised if Casey and Jesse Mclean go pass him next year.
 

WestyLife

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I think he is an average talent I think. He is strong but isn't that fast and hasn't got any real explosiveness about him.
C.Mclean will be a centre next year and most likely Tago the other. It leaves a wing spot for Alamoti. J.Mclean might push for it and I also didn't think Laurie wasn't horrid when tried there.

Apparently Alamoti was clocked at one of the fastest runners in the comp according to an article shared a week or so ago. He certainly doesn't look it but the Asian guy with the laptop would have the numbers.
 

Iamback

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Blaize is an amazing talent. Was Alamoti the other your talking about? I just think he looks ok. Tago has been poor but he has genuine pace and explosiveness. Alamoti has power but bit sluggish. I wouldn't be suprised if Casey and Jesse Mclean go pass him next year.

Alamoti aparently is the fastest at the club. His intercept v Cows proves it is possible
 

Pomoz

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The speed numbers only measure bursts, not sustained speed. I am not sure Alamoti is fast over more than 25m. I don't know who is the quickest at the Panthers, but all our players are pretty slow. We would probably have the slowest backline in the competition. I wonder whether our training staff prioritise condition over speed, because we haven't had a fast player in our team during the five year run.
 

WestyLife

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The speed numbers only measure bursts, not sustained speed. I am not sure Alamoti is fast over more than 25m. I don't know who is the quickest at the Panthers, but all our players are pretty slow. We would probably have the slowest backline in the competition. I wonder whether our training staff prioritise condition over speed, because we haven't had a fast player in our team during the five year run.

After the last month I'd back Tago to be in the top 5 or 10 players. He went with the Titans winger who's said to be one of the fastest in the comp.
 

Chins get the wins

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Casey and Alamoti should be our centres round 1 next year. Tago to bulk a bit and try rekindle his career as a backrower who can cover centre
 

hindy111

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I don't think over a 100mtrs matter or even 50 as much as over 15mtrs.
D.Lauire from my eye is the quickest. That's probably just over a short distance .
 

WestyLife

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Trust me when I say Tago is our quickest from 0-40m. I have been saying it for a few years now, and I haven't witnessed anything to change my mind on that.

You're probably right. I never really noticed till the second half of this season.
 

Panther Pete

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The speed numbers only measure bursts, not sustained speed. I am not sure Alamoti is fast over more than 25m. I don't know who is the quickest at the Panthers, but all our players are pretty slow. We would probably have the slowest backline in the competition. I wonder whether our training staff prioritise condition over speed, because we haven't had a fast player in our team during the five year run.
I am pretty sure the article I read had Alamoti as the 3rd fastest in the comp for top speed which surprised me although don’t know how accurate the source was. I def agree we would be one of the slowest back lines in the comp but it hasn’t hurt us in the past few years. I still have flashbacks to the 2020 GF in the second half when Papenhauzen make a break near their own line and when he took off it looked like Dyl was running backwards rather than chasing him.
 

Iamback

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I hate it but hopefully the refs put the whistle away like normal come September. Because Tago and Kenny are doing so much stupid shit.

No idea why fans enjoy the officials ignoring rules but they do

For me it is. Refs don't call everything anyway. Atleast with nothing being called the referee is consistent
 
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