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Reds and Crusaders in!!!

Patorick

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Bad luck for Widnes.

Bomber McRae will be happy though.

Guess this means Chalk will go to the Crusaders now.
 

stormtragic

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Toulouse time will come....2012 they will be stronger and an instant success... same with Widnes

Really happy though for Salford, been hard at it for many years and hard work has paid off, Cetic this will be a massive boost to international rugby league
 

Th1rteen

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Lol, I'm watching it on Sky Sports News. They went live to the press conference where Richard Lewis said the 14 teams in alphabetical order. Then they went back to the studio, talked to Lewis live from West Yorkshire, then to the Celtic Crusaders chairman. I think they're speaking to someone from Widnes next.
 

Th1rteen

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Another break. They spoke to Salfords Wilkinson on the phone. He has such a thick accent that I couldn't really understand what he said but I think he said that all the fans were delighted, that 17 of their players are under 21 and that the new stadium is coming along nicely amongst other things.

They then went to Widnes with a live video feed. Spoke to O'Connor, he didn't know why they wern't accepted but says that Widnes will come back stronger and will provide an alternative should one of the clubs fail. He wishes the 14 good luck, he wasn't exactly crying but you could tell he was on the verge. The Widnes Vikings fans in the background were singing "I'm Widnes till I die".

Next up they're speaking to Wakefield's John Kear.

Oh and Aussie Tony Rea is in the studio giving his view and asking some decent questions.
 
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ucantseeme

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http://www.skysports.com/video/0,20285,12780,00.html

The Crusaders stadium has a capacity of approx 8000 and their average crowd is 1500 in NL1. I am in favour of their promotion to SL but I am seriously not expecting much for many years. Like the NQ Cowboys, they were terrible for a decade then they came good. It seems Ryan O'hara is their big name signing for 2009.

Go you good thing.
 

S.S.T.I.D

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This is good news. Widnes fans shouldn't be too despondant, they are lucky to have a team at all given what happened 12 months ago. I'm sure they will be there in 2012 if they continue to work hard.

I hope Toulouse are offered a spot in a revamped National League 1. It would be the ideal path to a Super League spot in 2012 also.
 
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Another break. They spoke to Salfords Wilkinson on the phone. He has such a thick accent that I couldn't really understand what he said but I think he said that all the fans were delighted, that 17 of their players are under 21 and that the new stadium is coming along nicely amongst other things.

They then went to Widnes with a live video feed. Spoke to O'Connor, he didn't know why they wern't accepted but says that Widnes will come back stronger and will provide an alternative should one of the clubs fail. He wishes the 14 good luck, he wasn't exactly crying but you could tell he was on the verge. The Widnes Vikings fans in the background were singing "I'm Widnes till I die".

Next up they're speaking to Wakefield's John Kear.

Oh and Aussie Tony Rea is in the studio giving his view and asking some decent questions.

internet link ?
 

pcpp

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Sounds like a good decision.

I was hoping for Celtic, Salford and Toulouse (with Castleford getting relegated), but I wasn't so sure about Toulouse after only 8,000 turned up for the international.
 

bender

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Sounds like a good decision.

I was hoping for Celtic, Salford and Toulouse (with Castleford getting relegated), but I wasn't so sure about Toulouse after only 8,000 turned up for the international.

Only 8000? That is a huge crowd for France. It is bigger than most Catalan crowds also. The RFL have made a mistake by not admitting Toulouse straight away, imo, although i havent seen the bids obviously and there may be things i am not aware of.

I think they have taken the easy and less controversial option, and i think i agree with the sentiment that Toulouse are now certainties in 3 years, although i just hope that France can afford to wait that long. It would have made much more sense to lock Salford in for 3 years time, so that the stadium would be built. I am not convinced NL1 is the place for Toulouse to be, as they do not really have anything to gain. Sure they can waste their money building a purely french side and winning the competition, but what will it to do to the French Competition? Of course, it is possible (and from Left field) that the French and NL1 may merge with the top French clubs joining NL1 and the rest becoming a French 2. That would actually be an interesting proposition to see how 2 or 3 of the better French clubs go in NL1 and may help there game even more than a Toulouse Superleague. I am hoping this is the surprise announcement for NL1 although obviously are not holding my breath.
 

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Leigh: Celtic licence is not so super

Jul 22 2008 WalesOnline
LEIGH have hit out over the decision to award Celtic Crusaders a Super League licence, claiming the game’s governing body should “hang their heads in shame”.
The Centurions were among the five losers when the Rugby Football League this morning announced 14 three-year licences from 2009, including Salford City Reds and the Bridgend-based Crusaders.



All 12 existing engage Super League clubs kept their places, with Leigh missing out along with Featherstone, Halifax, Widnes and Toulouse, who are expected to be offered a place in the National League.
Leigh chief executive Allan Rowley said: “May we take this opportunity to wish Salford and Celtic all the best but we also have to say we are thoroughly disgusted with the Celtic decision.
“We now have a team that fielded 10 overseas players against us because they are classed as a development team and are now in our elite competition, which is a complete contradiction of terms and we feel this decision is purely a geographical one.
“We have nothing at all against the people who run Celtic. They can only do what they do within the laws of the game but the decision makers should hang their heads in shame.
“We know that there is no system for appealing but we are definitely going to ask the RFL how Celtic ticked more boxes than us. We owe that to the public of Leigh.”
The Crusaders, who entered the National League only three years ago, will play their matches at the Brewery Field, which is described by the RFL in their summary of applications as “limited and old-fashioned”, and have no plans to take matches to Cardiff.
RFL executive chairman Richard Lewis, who was on the five-strong panel that came up with today’s unanimous decisions, said “Celtic’s licence was granted on the basis of Bridgend and we’re quite comfortable with that.
“They persuaded us that they can deliver. The Crusaders have gone from National League Two to One and grown their crowds. Market research is positive and I think they put together a good case.”
Leigh, who were relegated from Super League in 2005, based their application on their imminent move to a brand new stadium.
“We are devastated with the decision,” added Rowley. “The bid was professionally presented by Deloittes and had the full backing of Wigan MBC (Metropolitan Borough Council) and Leigh Sports Village.
“The bid incorporated a business plan that was approved by Deloittes, which demonstrated the enormous potential of Leigh Centurions together with the opening of the fantastic new stadium and other facilities at the Sports Village.
“The new facilities definitely ticked enough boxes for a successful bid and all that we can do now is monitor the development of the successful clubs and see whether they can deliver what we at Leigh Centurions have already delivered.
“We are not naive enough to think that the new stadium is the be all and end all but it is the catalyst to develop the club and the infrastructure in association with the local amateur clubs.
“This, along with the backing of the Leigh public, will ensure that there are exciting times ahead for Leigh Centurions.”
Widnes, who missed out when original plans for Super League were drawn up in 1995 and lost their place 10 years later when the League relegated an extra team to make way for the introduction of Catalans Dragons, took today’s news on the chin.
New owner Steve O’Connor, who took the club out of administration in November, insisted they would bounce back and re-apply for a place in Super League when the licence system is reviewed in 2011.
“We must build on the solid foundations we have laid down over the past eight months and prepare an absolutely irresistible licence application for the future,” he said.
“I feel it is vital for the game as a whole that the Super League flourishes under this new licence system and I’m still convinced that Widnes Vikings have all the credentials to become a powerful force in Super League.”
If there was joy in Manchester and south Wales, the reaction in Castleford and Wakefield was one of relief after both established clubs struggled to meet the minimum standards laid down for facilities and stadia.
Castleford, who were promoted back to Super League last year, hope to move into a new stadium in 2010.
Tigers chief executive Richard Wright said: “This is fabulous news for the club and the fans and just what we have been waiting to hear.”

:lol: who wants to bet that when Leigh do get into SL they'll be Celtic's public enemy no.1?
 

pcpp

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I hope the RFL hold that against Leigh when the next set of licenses come up for review.

Widnes and Toulouse are fine examples of clubs that upheld their integrity and respect with the decision. Hopefully Widnes and Toulouse get in next time.
 

Evil Homer

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Embarrassing by Leigh. Shows that the RFL made the right decision - that was a National League press release. You also have to look at how Leigh went last time they were in SL - one of if not the worst side the comp has ever seen.
 

meltiger

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You can understand them being dissapointed though. In the long run, they will regret and maybe even back away slightly from those comments.


Just watched the video on that linked news article re: The Crusaders, as "Old fashioned" as that ground appears ... I love the backdrop of the tree line behind the grandstand. Fantastic stuff. Good luck to them and hopefully they keep growing the game.


Shattered Widnes didn't get a gig though. Hopefully by 2012 they can find their way back into the top flight.
 
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I have always had a soft spot for Leigh which was based on nothing other than the fact that Scott Mahon played for them during one off-season in about 1993.

The only way Leigh would be part of SL again would be as part of a merger with Salford. Salford-Leigh Centurion Devils...

On that note, I'm surprised no clubs decided to get together and made a bid as a merged identity.
 

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