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Ref and Bunker Decisions

_Johnsy

Referee
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@Vee

Can you give me some feedback on one of the North Qld tries against the Dragons on the weekend? (Kind of curious if I’m just being one eyed).

Cowboys player is tackled low. Arm carrying the ball hits the ground short of the line with tackler still connected. Momentum seems to be moving him forward as he turns over onto his front and extends his arm, all in one motion. He scores.

Double movement?
If the arm carrying the ball hits the ground before being promoted, no try. If the arm carrying the ball doesn’t make contact with the ground before being promoted, try.
 

gerg

Juniors
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Going back to Thursday night I thought Manly's first try was an obstruction from Olakatoa. He stopped in the line, Staines had to sidestep him twice. First to engage the man with the ball and then had to go around Olakatoa again when the ball was passed, he lost his footing and the overlap was there for the taking. This was a clear example of why the 'black and white' ruling - of having to run through the line - was introduced. As usual once we lose the consistency it becomes a coin toss.
 

Chimp

Bench
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The thing you are seeing with the refs and the Bulldogs, the rest of us have been sick of the last 4 years with the refs and Panthers.
One thing that I’m noticing, the Bulldogs are getting away with blue murder with their wrestle/spoiling/slowing the ptb tactics.
Almost every single tackle they’re really pushing it to the boundary with wrestle, hands/feet tangled in the ruck, or even really late shoves/pressure - it’s like vintage Melbourne cheating.
They’re winning collisions, which helps with perception of being ‘in control’ to the ref, but they’re being allowed to push it too far, and it’s giving them a massive competitive advantage.
 

gerg

Juniors
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One thing that I’m noticing, the Bulldogs are getting away with blue murder with their wrestle/spoiling/slowing the ptb tactics.
Almost every single tackle they’re really pushing it to the boundary with wrestle, hands/feet tangled in the ruck, or even really late shoves/pressure - it’s like vintage Melbourne cheating.
They’re winning collisions, which helps with perception of being ‘in control’ to the ref, but they’re being allowed to push it too far, and it’s giving them a massive competitive advantage.

Been doing it all year. Mahoney waltzes in with a late flop on the ruck every second tackle.
 

firechild

First Grade
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Going back to Thursday night I thought Manly's first try was an obstruction from Olakatoa. He stopped in the line, Staines had to sidestep him twice. First to engage the man with the ball and then had to go around Olakatoa again when the ball was passed, he lost his footing and the overlap was there for the taking. This was a clear example of why the 'black and white' ruling - of having to run through the line - was introduced. As usual once we lose the consistency it becomes a coin toss.
Who is Olakatoa?
 

snickers007

Juniors
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This might seem like an odd rant considering my team just benefitted massively from this rule, but.....

It's time we standardise when the clock is stopped and restarted following points being scored.

Panthers and Eels both score 6 tries each tonight, yet Panthers essentially get an extra 5-6 minutes added to the match by virtue of when they scored their points.

You can't tell me that the Panthers scored 3 tries, attempted 3 conversions, received 2 restarts and completed 2 sets of 6 within 180 seconds. It didn't happen.

We've got to move to a system where the try is scored, the clock is stopped and remains stopped until the game is restarted at halfway for every try.

You can still have a shot clock for conversions to keep things moving, but it has to be the same across the board.

You can't have some tries be worth 6 points and 120 seconds off the clock, while others are 6 points and 0 seconds off the clock.

In light of the Dragons v Eels game ending thought it was time to re-post this. Absolutely farcical.

Imagine if the Dragons managed to pull out the win, and they scrape through to the finals because some tries are more heavily weighted than others purely by virtue of when they are scored.
 

kurt faulk

Coach
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Voss wants to change a rule that has been around for decades because Brown is the fat f**king bonehead.

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kurt faulk

Coach
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The fat shit played the ball sideways. Sideways.

I guess the bunker only cares about certain rules to be followed.

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ParraEelsNRL

Referee
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Why hasn't the ref got a button to push when he wants a restart instead of waiting seconds for the vid ref to make their sound. The other night when one teams kicked when they got a restart was pathetic, and got the ball back. if the ref pressed a button, the sound would have been heard one or two seconds earlier. In this type of game,nanno seconds are in play.
 

mave

Coach
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Refs have refereed Round 0 in Vegas, round 1 , and Round 27 like Finals games.

Completely different to the middle 25 rounds.
 

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