Ref and Bunker Decisions

[_Johnsy]

@Vee

Can you give me some feedback on one of the North Qld tries against the Dragons on the weekend? (Kind of curious if I’m just being one eyed).

Cowboys player is tackled low. Arm carrying the ball hits the ground short of the line with tackler still connected. Momentum seems to be moving him forward as he turns over onto his front and extends his arm, all in one motion. He scores.

Double movement?

If the arm carrying the ball hits the ground before being promoted, no try. If the arm carrying the ball doesn’t make contact with the ground before being promoted, try.

 

[gerg]

Going back to Thursday night I thought Manly's first try was an obstruction from Olakatoa. He stopped in the line, Staines had to sidestep him twice. First to engage the man with the ball and then had to go around Olakatoa again when the ball was passed, he lost his footing and the overlap was there for the taking. This was a clear example of why the 'black and white' ruling - of having to run through the line - was introduced. As usual once we lose the consistency it becomes a coin toss.

 

[Chimp]

The thing you are seeing with the refs and the Bulldogs, the rest of us have been sick of the last 4 years with the refs and Panthers.

One thing that I’m noticing, the Bulldogs are getting away with blue murder with their wrestle/spoiling/slowing the ptb tactics.
Almost every single tackle they’re really pushing it to the boundary with wrestle, hands/feet tangled in the ruck, or even really late shoves/pressure - it’s like vintage Melbourne cheating.
They’re winning collisions, which helps with perception of being ‘in control’ to the ref, but they’re being allowed to push it too far, and it’s giving them a massive competitive advantage.

 

[gerg]

One thing that I’m noticing, the Bulldogs are getting away with blue murder with their wrestle/spoiling/slowing the ptb tactics.
Almost every single tackle they’re really pushing it to the boundary with wrestle, hands/feet tangled in the ruck, or even really late shoves/pressure - it’s like vintage Melbourne cheating.
They’re winning collisions, which helps with perception of being ‘in control’ to the ref, but they’re being allowed to push it too far, and it’s giving them a massive competitive advantage.

Been doing it all year. Mahoney waltzes in with a late flop on the ruck every second tackle.

 

[firechild]

Going back to Thursday night I thought Manly's first try was an obstruction from Olakatoa. He stopped in the line, Staines had to sidestep him twice. First to engage the man with the ball and then had to go around Olakatoa again when the ball was passed, he lost his footing and the overlap was there for the taking. This was a clear example of why the 'black and white' ruling - of having to run through the line - was introduced. As usual once we lose the consistency it becomes a coin toss.

Who is Olakatoa?

 

[Chimp]

Who is Olakatoa?

Big fella, hates the gays.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Big fella, hates the gays.

That only narrows it down to half the team

none by that name though

 

[Chimp]

That only narrows it down to half the team

none by that name though

Oh yeah, I can’t help you then….

 

[firechild]

Big fella, hates the gays.

Cool, you've narrowed it down to half the NRL.

 

[gerg]

Who is Olakatoa?

Don't be coy. You know I'm referring to Nathan Smith.

 

[Captain Apollo]

Who is Olakatoa?

I dare say he mis-spelled it, and that it's this bloke -

Haumole Olakau'atu

The NRL profile of Haumole Olakau'atu including career statistics, season stats, games, tries, goals, tackles and fantasy scores.

www.seaeagles.com.au

 

[snickers007]

This might seem like an odd rant considering my team just benefitted massively from this rule, but.....

It's time we standardise when the clock is stopped and restarted following points being scored.

Panthers and Eels both score 6 tries each tonight, yet Panthers essentially get an extra 5-6 minutes added to the match by virtue of when they scored their points.

You can't tell me that the Panthers scored 3 tries, attempted 3 conversions, received 2 restarts and completed 2 sets of 6 within 180 seconds. It didn't happen.

We've got to move to a system where the try is scored, the clock is stopped and remains stopped until the game is restarted at halfway for every try.

You can still have a shot clock for conversions to keep things moving, but it has to be the same across the board.

You can't have some tries be worth 6 points and 120 seconds off the clock, while others are 6 points and 0 seconds off the clock.

In light of the Dragons v Eels game ending thought it was time to re-post this. Absolutely farcical.

Imagine if the Dragons managed to pull out the win, and they scrape through to the finals because some tries are more heavily weighted than others purely by virtue of when they are scored.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Eh it’s the first 75 mins that’s the issue. Stop the clock from try awarded/sent up no try until kick off, all match.