Rise And Fall Of ECW

[canberra_raiders2k2]

he wont ever get to be anywhere near his ecw days...the WWE wont give him a serious push.

 

[Raider_69]

he wont ever get to be anywhere near his ecw days...the WWE wont give him a serious push.

and IMO rightly so
i for the life of me cant understand how he is in the class of the Cena's, Angle's, JBL's, Undertaker's and Big Show's

even worse when he was on raw - NDK, Orton, HHH, Kane, Edge, Batista etc

Id like to see him with the US Title when Cena moves to the world title stage but any further wouldnt work, his charactor simply isnt strong enough and never has been IMO

I want to see Christian pushed, he is awesome and has paided his dues, im hoping once Edge captures the world title they give Capt. Charima a small fued with him

 

[thuganomics]

I would think that RVD is one of the most gifted wrestlers ever. WWE didn't use him right at all, Christian also needs a push. I cant see Christian being a face in a while to be honest.

 

[canberra_raiders2k2]

he wont ever get to be anywhere near his ecw days...the WWE wont give him a serious push.

and IMO rightly so
i for the life of me cant understand how he is in the class of the Cena's, Angle's, JBL's, Undertaker's and Big Show's

even worse when he was on raw - NDK, Orton, HHH, Kane, Edge, Batista etc

Id like to see him with the US Title when Cena moves to the world title stage but any further wouldnt work, his charactor simply isnt strong enough and never has been IMO

I want to see Christian pushed, he is awesome and has paided his dues, im hoping once Edge captures the world title they give Capt. Charima a small fued with him

I agree with almost everything you have said.

Christian is without a doubt one of the better wrestlers in the wwe and is wasted in tag matches...he has great mic skills and his in ring abilty is just as good as edges.

RVD is a great entertainer but his mic skills are poor...his a poor mans benoitt. But i enjoy both his and benoitts matches.

For RVD to be great again there has to be a hardcore division...and that wont happen.

 

[thuganomics]

He's not horrible on the mic, hes not great though. He cant cut a full promo, but he is fairly good in a quick interview.
I would love to see RVD and Christian get pushed, both to the top of thier division. Can never run out of main eventers.

 

[pennywisealfie]

and this all proves that ecw ruled. i mean paul heyman found a way for rvd to be that popular. even tazz was huge when he was in ecw and wwe killed him. remember his wwe debut at royal rumble? he got the biggest pop of the night. you had guys like lance storm, justin credible, mike awesome and tommy dreamer to name a few who were huge names in the business when they were in ecw and then wwe killed them off.

 

[Raider_69]

and this all proves that ecw ruled. i mean paul heyman found a way for rvd to be that popular. even tazz was huge when he was in ecw and wwe killed him. remember his wwe debut at royal rumble? he got the biggest pop of the night. you had guys like lance storm, justin credible, mike awesome and tommy dreamer to name a few who were huge names in the business when they were in ecw and then wwe killed them off.

what it shows is how good heyman is in reguards to creativity and promotion, he made them big names, while in the WWE they have bigger stars to focus on.

Heyman really should get some proper backing (Vinnie Mac) and start ECW up again, it would get some good crowds and buy-rates

 

[bribiewarrigal]

Not a Heyman fan? I reckon he's done more for modern-day pro wrestling than any of us probably really realise.

Eric Bischoff now that is a man that you can set your watch to.

 

[canberra_raiders2k2]

Vince started it all, without him wrestling never would of gone primetime..i think there is a TV record for amount of viewers that watched Hogan vs UW at 11pm..to this day it still hasnt been broken.

Bischoff was doing great except for the fact that wrestlers werent getting paid..the old guys never got out of the spotlight..PPV's were meaning less..

having said that bischoff did great in forcing wcw to become the number 1 show.

Heyman just couldnt for the life of him land a decent TV deal..other then that the wrestling ecw offered was probably the best.

 

[thuganomics]

Heyman said that ECW did not get a TV deal, so thats what caused their fall. They hardley had any money and were stuggling to keep stars such as Benoit and Guerrero.

Bishoff did extremely well considering he took a no name company, and made it into what ECW then became.

The true idiot in all of this is..................Vince Russo.....hate that guy

 

[Big Pete]

I got it last weekend, good dvd. It gives you some new found respect for Heyman and so on.

Also how good was Sabu and 2 Cold Scorpio, great match.

 

[canberra_raiders2k2]

great dvd..ive seen it 4 times..

Although with Sabu it made no sense..heymen says he will never hire sabu again yet a few years later his back and it didnt explain that.

 

[Big Pete]

I think it was to make Sabu desperate for a contract back and he must of begged for Heymans forgiveness.

I still think the dvd could've had some extra promos and so on.