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Ronaldo Mulitalo

Wizardman

First Grade
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One thing people have missed through this whole eligibility fiasco. It is NOT Qld's fault that Ronaldo's parents filled in his eligibility form incorrectly. It is not upto the QRL to do detective work to ensure Mulitalo played footy in Qld within the correct timeframe. The onus is on his parents to ensure that the frikkin form had been filled out correctly.

All of this is the fault of the Mulitalo family.
 

Diesel

Referee
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What a mess. Now there was a backtracking story to say he was in QLD at 13 which was then unfounded.
 

_Johnsy

Referee
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Poor QRL, I feel awful for them. That's what you get for trusting people.
I don’t, seriously what an amateur organisation. No doubt Doris will be made the scapegoat &. get rissoled this week. I doubt she’ll be afforded the same leeway as Mr Gee.
 

Tiger Shark

Bench
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One thing people have missed through this whole eligibility fiasco. It is NOT Qld's fault that Ronaldo's parents filled in his eligibility form incorrectly. It is not upto the QRL to do detective work to ensure Mulitalo played footy in Qld within the correct timeframe. The onus is on his parents to ensure that the frikkin form had been filled out correctly.

All of this is the fault of the Mulitalo family.
How do you figure that ?

QLD selected him to play junior origin from when he was 16 when his contracts said he wasn't eligible.

And the NRL then approved all subsequent contracts, even the most recent ones that suggested he was eligible.

To blame this on a family when both the QRL and ARL/NRL didn't do their due diligence is just sad.
 

Last Week

Bench
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The QRL, Mulitalo and his manager are to blame for this.

The changes in answers over the different contracts is suspicious. There appears to be some deceipt from the Mulitalo camp on his eligibility.

Further, the QRL should at a bare minimum be doing due diligence in checking these sorts of situations.

It's easy for them to check his junior career to see if he's been registered or player there as a junior, and everything else a passport would almost cover. It's almost wilful blindness by them.

It is not uncommon for supporting documents to be supplied when making these applications or declarations.
 

Munky

Coach
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The QRL, Mulitalo and his manager are to blame for this.

The changes in answers over the different contracts is suspicious. There appears to be some deceipt from the Mulitalo camp on his eligibility.

Further, the QRL should at a bare minimum be doing due diligence in checking these sorts of situations.

It's easy for them to check his junior career to see if he's been registered or player there as a junior, and everything else a passport would almost cover. It's almost wilful blindness by them.

It is not uncommon for supporting documents to be supplied when making these applications or declarations.

Any job with a decent sized company requires all sorts of identity confirmation when starting.

Not sure why if a kid was born overseas they're not required to produce documentation to put all the relevant info in a database all relevant RL bodies can search for eligibility.

For anyone who wants to play rep footy for a region outside of the country on their birth certificate the onus is on them to prove eligibility.
 

yakstorm

First Grade
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Does this make the Jnr SOO results he played in null and void?
My understanding is both Under 16s and Under 18s are selected under residency rules, just like national teams at those age levels, with the teams more designed to showcase the top players from the equivalent Junior Representative teams.

Under 20s has been played under Origin rules for over a decade, so yes technically any match involving Mulitalo could be voided as he was an ineligible player.

As for who is to blame for this, the QRL are the ones who made the rules (with the NSWRL & NRL), know the rules and are the ones who are ultimately responsible for complying with them. The fact they didn't collect appropriate documentation is on them.

Maybe Mulitalo and his parents were deceptive or didn't understand the rules or maybe someone told them that if he plays 16s, 18s, 20s, that would be enough. Regardless the QRL didn't do the basics.
 

Pretty Penny

Juniors
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the kiddie teams at u14, u16, u18 are picked to showcase the talent rather than with strict interpretations of who is a Queenslander and who is a Cockroach. For instance, Hectic Cheese Brandon Smithy played for Queensland at all under age levels and he is the New Zealand hooker and never claimed to be anything else.
 

BunniesMan

Immortal
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33,730
Origin eligibility can add up to hundreds of thousands of dollars in income. Both on the end of the person being given a spot and also the person who lost out and who should have been there. The NRL should make a determination at the time every player makes their first grade debut. That way there is none of this amateurish last minute nonsense

As for those who don't like sticking to the technical rules, do yourself a favour and look up the word origin in the dictionary. This contest isn't for everyone. It is not just an all star game. It means something because it is tribal. And the whole point of tribes is not everyone belongs to them.
 

Fangs

Coach
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The Mulitalo fiasco exemplifies the current status of QLD football right now. The whole place is out of order.
 

Ron's_Mate

Bench
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Knocked back again by the NRL

"The QRL submitted an application to the NRL on Wednesday for Mulitalo - who represented the Maroons at under-18s and under-20s level - to be included in future Origin squads despite having no documentation to prove he was a resident in the state before he was 13."
 

Perth Red

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It’s all a bit stupid. Ponga is eligible despite being born in WA, spending just 6 years between 2 and 8 in queensland then Moving to nz and not moving back to queensland till he was over 13. So basically out of the first 14 years of his life he only lived in queensland for 6 of them yet he is eligible??
 

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