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Round 13 v Titans

alien

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oi r20 if i watched the game at a pub in redfern and i saw shadow there at the end of the match he was a blubbering mess he wont be contributing tonight but he will be back on tomorrow back to express the passion he is doing ok no need to panic about him

i don't think shadow lives in nsw
 

cisco

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So Souths Pride the main ref awards the field goal. You can't take that back then regardless of what the assistant ref says. That's game over once he awards the field goal.

That absolute muppet Cecchin in the bunker can't overrule like he did and that muppet Luke Patten.

The decision surely can't be reversed.

I feel we were robbed once again SOUTHS Pride.

Trouble is that scumbag Hasler would cop the big cash fine and bag the refs for awarding the field goal and then taking it back.He woud also bag them for not penalising he markers for being offside.At least that would give the NRL the message that we are not taking it like wimps.It would also give us hard suffering fans some feeling of justice and pride in our strength of character,did Madge say anything at the post match press conference?
 

souths_pride

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Because most play the balls involve a player at least making an attempt or starting the motions of getting up before they place the ball, the burgess style of play the ball ( and he's not the only one who gets pinged for it) involves players placing the ball and pushing themselves up from there. It's actually the incorrect way of playing the ball (because you are actually supposed to rise with the ball before playing it) so when something goes wrong with that style of play the ball the blame usually goes to the attacking player (unless the defenders are way over the top with their actions). The dylan walker play the ball in origin shows that some of the onus has to be on the man playing the ball, and when you are using an incorrect technique to play the ball (not at least attempting to rise with the ball) then you are setting yourself up for the blame
The Dylan Walker play the ball in origin is a bad example because it pure stupidity on his part in trying to move the ball and play it on Cameron Smith's hand; Sam Burgess has never done that. I personally don't think the referees have any right to determine how the ball should be played, so long as it adheres to the laws of the game; the referees cannot be a law unto themselves. Now basic logic tells you that in order to play the ball, you have to get on your feet to some extent. If think that so long as he is doing that, playing the ball backwards and touching the ball with his foot, then there shouldn't be a problem. In any case, I don't think that is the reason for his handling errors. I think it is more down to carelessness than anything. I mean one of his errors came about from not playing the ball backwards properly! That has nothing to do with using the ball to prop himself up; its all about concentration.
 

souths_pride

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Yeah, I remember Harrigan getting a hard on and penalising anyone who put the ball on the ground before getting up.
I remember the year that they really cracked down on the play the ball. I think it was around 2000 and it needed to be done because it was becoming a joke! If I can recall correctly, Bill Harrigan was anal about the players touching the ball with their foot, placing the ball cleanly on the ground and not bouncing it.
So Souths Pride the main ref awards the field goal. You can't take that back then regardless of what the assistant ref says. That's game over once he awards the field goal.

That absolute muppet Cecchin in the bunker can't overrule like he did and that muppet Luke Patten.

The decision surely can't be reversed.

I feel we were robbed once again SOUTHS Pride.
I've never seen anything like that happen before and if it has then I can't remember it. I haven't seen the press conference yet but Maguire would have a right to be absolutely livid with that call. Like I said, since when can the on-field referee go to the bunker after making his decision. Moreover, I think what transpired has made the rules surrounding the bunker even murkier; I'm still unsure of the extent to which the bunker is allowed to get involved in these things.

The big problem with what the referee did is that he has now set a precedent for changing his decisions as well as involving the bunker. For instance, if this referee is allowed to review and change his decision for a field goal, then why isn't he allowed to review and/or change his mind on any other call that he makes in the game?
 

Rabbits20

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Trouble is that scumbag Hasler would cop the big cash fine and bag the refs for awarding the field goal and then taking it back.He woud also bag them for not penalising he markers for being offside.At least that would give the NRL the message that we are not taking it like wimps.It would also give us hard suffering fans some feeling of justice and pride in our strength of character,did Madge say anything at the post match press conference?

Correct Cisco. That exactly how I feel too. This loss hurts hard.

As usual Madge is talking the same dribble. We have to hold the ball and be better plus I've got a good squad blah blah. We showed what we can do in the second half. You get the gist Cisco.

It's just ridiculous. I'm fuming.
 

cisco

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The actual fact of the matter is the Titans marker was never square and thus he was offside.A penalty should have been awarded and Adam would have kicked the goal.That is what should have happened ,no question.For all the mistakes we made, and all the soft tries we let in,and for the great come back we produced ,if there was integrity and honesty in the game ,above is what should have happened.!!But is there any honesty and integrity in the game,I leave that for people with better brains than mine to answer!
 

Jack_Napier

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Shouldn't have been 18-0 on the first place, that's not good enough for any side. Refs were pathetic in GP
 

cisco

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So. Was it a penalty or not?
The actual fact of the matter is the Titans marker was never square and thus he was offside.A penalty should have been awarded and Adam would have kicked the goal.That is what should have happened ,no question.For all the mistakes we made, and all the soft tries we let in,and for the great come back we produced ,if there was integrity and honesty in the game ,above is what should have happened.!!But is there any honesty and integrity in the game,I leave that for people with better brains than mine to answer!
 

Rabbits20

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Shouldn't have been 18-0 on the first place, that's not good enough for any side. Refs were pathetic in GP

GI got stripped of the ball so it should have been a penalty to SOUTHS. Titans shouldn't have scored.

So you're right Nape in that it should have been 12-0.

18-10 and Sam gets stripped of the ball/infringed and no penalty given and Titans score. That cost us too.
 

Jack_Napier

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GI got stripped of the ball so it should have been a penalty to SOUTHS. Titans shouldn't have scored.

So you're right Nape in that it should have been 12-0.

18-10 and Sam gets stripped of the ball/infringed and no penalty given and Titans score. That cost us too.

Lol ok mate. You've got so many excuses when you lose. The golden point fiasco was ridiculous so fair point there but you guys were shithouse in the first half. Forget about it and move on to next week, no amount of pissing and moaning will change the result.
 

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