Round two vs the Dragons.

[Smug Panther]

Might need Martin to go to prop. I said it was a no no after last week but if Fish is out we might have to make the call

 

[betcats]

You and betcats are a little short sighted obviously.

The benefit of kenny is he is an A class defender....but, he allows api to run. And if api runs we have a bloke that can get to 9 and still offer clean crisp service (be it a 20m ball) to yeo at first reciever..

The modern game is all about speed around the ruck (tired forwards). Whilst kenny doesnt have speed he had good service and he allows apu to get creative.

Salmon did nothing in the 12 mins sos was off... one knock back... look, at the end of the day i just dont think we can carry salmon and kenny on the bench.

As i said before a ball was kicked this year, you need speed on the bench these days...

If kenny covers the forwards id honestly rather an out an out speedster on the bench for the backs if we must cover both. Turuva or may..

Just dont cunfuse salmon being a 14 tonight as me fix it. He didnt play half.. he was 2nd row and defended at centre when too went off and thats when hes missed tackles came as hes too slow for the backs.

You are not making sense at all now. Api and Kenny aren’t going to be on the field together very often especially if the bench is Kenny and 3 other forwards. It only happened tonight cause fish got hurt and Api didn’t look anymore creative having Kenny out there with him and the other side of that is Kenny playing as a running middle means our middle running game as a team is weakened, less momentum will mean less chances for api to run and be creative not more.

 

[Iamback]

Salmon was good tonight, filled in Everywhere and in a game we got outdone physically he 4 tackle breaks and 32 post contact metres, that’s almost double Spencer’s pct and tackle breaks with only 1 more run. He’s a better utility than May was imo and definitely would have him in the side over Kenny.

That is it
Until the 18th man can come on for game ending injuries

Then you need someone that can cover multiple positions

They often just plug a hole but don't stuff up and that is all you want

 

[Aliceinwonderland]

On the day they were honoring their past great players. If on any other day, maybe, but not today. And slandering another player as a pedo, when the bloke can't defend himself is a bit raw.

Unless you have actually facts do not make these accusations

I do have facts, but I am not prepared to repeat them.

 

[Iamback]

You are not making sense at all now. Api and Kenny aren’t going to be on the field together very often especially if the bench is Kenny and 3 other forwards. It only happened tonight cause fish got hurt and Api didn’t look anymore creative having Kenny out there with him and the other side of that is Kenny playing as a running middle means our middle running game as a team is weakened, less momentum will mean less chances for api to run and be creative not more.

Leinu and Fish getting injured pushed Yeo to prop.

That allowed Kenny at lock.

 

[Original Name]

Anyone who expected an easy game were kicking themselves. After being given the flick Hook was always going to treat getting up for this game like a massive thing whereas for us it's just another game we have get through until the backend of the year.

 

[Aliceinwonderland]

Anyone who expected an easy game were kicking themselves. After being given the flick Hook was always going to treat getting up for this game like a massive thing whereas for us it's just another game we have get through until the backend of the year.

Exactly. It was never ever going to be a 'gimmie' game, especially at Jubilee

 

[Girds89]

You are not making sense at all now. Api and Kenny aren’t going to be on the field together very often especially if the bench is Kenny and 3 other forwards. It only happened tonight cause fish got hurt and Api didn’t look anymore creative having Kenny out there with him and the other side of that is Kenny playing as a running middle means our middle running game as a team is weakened, less momentum will mean less chances for api to run and be creative not more.

Stuck in the madge thought process..

Its not the early 2010s anymore.

Just cause kenny and api are on together doesnt mean they are locked into certain roles.

What i mean is generally, once fish goes off our go forward comes from kiks, martin or our backs. You could play kenny at prop... the storm have done it well. Bellamy basically invented it.

Kenny only has to tackle well (which he does) and give good service. It means api can run freely and theres no poor follow up service to yeo..

I understand the need to cover injuries hia in the modern game.

All im saying is salmon aint a 9.... and tonight he only played 2nd row even given injuries. He roamed in field when Sos went off but touched it once on a kick..

He made 14 tackles but missed 3. Worst of the team....

Kenny covers the forwards...

If a half goes down its clear salmon iant going there.... ivan showed that tonight....

So just pick a speedster.

Id go tmay

 

[Iamback]

Since 2020
Yeo has a 95% win
Luai has lost 5 games as a starter

We will still win next week

People had Hopgood in for Round 1
People had Smith in

Both will come in. More minutes for Leinu and we will grind out a win

 

[Iamback]

Stuck in the madge thought process..

Its not the early 2010s anymore.

Just cause kenny and api are on together doesnt mean they are locked into certain roles.

What i mean is generally, once fish goes off our go forward comes from kiks, martin or our backs. You could play kenny at prop... the storm have done it well. Bellamy basically invented it.

Kenny only has to tackle well (which he does) and give good service. It means api can run freely and theres no poor follow up service to yeo..

I understand the need to cover injuries hia in the modern game.

All im saying is salmon aint a 9.... and tonight he only played 2nd row even given injuries. He roamed in field when Sos went off but touched it once on a kick..

He made 14 tackles but missed 3. Worst of the team....

Kenny covers the forwards...

If a half goes down its clear salmon iant going there.... ivan showed that tonight....

So just pick a speedster.

Id go tmay

Then what if Kiks or Martin go down? You have a winger just sitting there on the bench

 

[Girds89]

Might need Martin to go to prop. I said it was a no no after last week but if Fish is out we might have to make the call

Nahh

We can cover prop.

Hopgood is an out and out middle
So is eiso
So is spencer
So is lindsay
Sorensen can cover edge but is really a middle..

Moving martin means we only weaken that edge which has been strong defensivley

 

[Girds89]

Then what if Kiks or Martin go down? You have a winger just sitting there on the bench

Lol....
Than if
Than if
Than if

Mate. Theres injuries in nrl..

The good teams deal with it.

The roosters last year had props playing at centre at points and the went within a bees d of embarrsing full strength teams in the play offs.

If kiks or martin go down kenny or sorensen could play 2nd row.

 

[Smug Panther]

Lol....
Than if
Than if
Than if

Mate. Theres injuries in nrl..

The good teams deal with it.

The roosters last year had props playing at centre at points and the went within a bees d of embarrsing full strength teams in the play offs.

If kiks or martin go down kenny or sorensen could play 2nd row.

This 100% my philosophy. Yes have cover where you can but it's defensive nonsense to play VERY average players in the 17 just in case

 

[betcats]

Stuck in the madge thought process..

Its not the early 2010s anymore.

Just cause kenny and api are on together doesnt mean they are locked into certain roles.

What i mean is generally, once fish goes off our go forward comes from kiks, martin or our backs. You could play kenny at prop... the storm have done it well. Bellamy basically invented it.

Kenny only has to tackle well (which he does) and give good service. It means api can run freely and theres no poor follow up service to yeo..

I understand the need to cover injuries hia in the modern game.

All im saying is salmon aint a 9.... and tonight he only played 2nd row even given injuries. He roamed in field when Sos went off but touched it once on a kick..

He made 14 tackles but missed 3. Worst of the team....

Kenny covers the forwards...

If a half goes down its clear salmon iant going there.... ivan showed that tonight....

So just pick a speedster.

Id go tmay

It doesn’t matter who is what role with Kenny and api in the middle together our go forward is not going to be better.

So you want Kenny, tmay and two bench forwards? Didn’t you just say we can’t carry Kenny and salmon together but now you think we can carry Kenny and tmay? Come on. That means Kenny has to play genuine bench prop minutes weekly or we go into games hoping Martin and kikau can play 80 every week. You are all over the shop. Kenny can play in the middle at a pinch like tonight but suggesting he cover the forwards as a genuine part of the middle rotation is crazy. Suggesting we can’t carry salmon and Kenny but we can carry Kenny and tmay is crazy.

And even with the kissed tackles salmon offered a lot more than Kenny tonight.

 

[Munky]

Kenny is very average and I'm not sure what he offers other than hooker backup during Origin.

The middle defence goes on the back foot when he is on.

Playing him as a loose forward is madness

 

[Iamback]

Lol....
Than if
Than if
Than if

Mate. Theres injuries in nrl..

The good teams deal with it.

The roosters last year had props playing at centre at points and the went within a bees d of embarrsing full strength teams in the play offs.

If kiks or martin go down kenny or sorensen could play 2nd row.

What team this week has placed an outside back on the bench?

No coach does it because it makes no sense to do it

 

[Iamback]

Kenny is very average and I'm not sure what he offers other than hooker backup during Origin.

The middle defence goes on the back foot when he is on.

Playing him as a loose forward is madness

I agree. We are in big trouble if he is our 9 next season

 

[Munky]

What team this week has placed an outside back on the bench?

No coach does it because it makes no sense to do it

Bellamy put Hynes on the bench.

And I'm very thankful he did.

Edit: just remembered our 2020 GF team...

 

[betcats]

Kenny is very average and I'm not sure what he offers other than hooker backup during Origin.

The middle defence goes on the back foot when he is on.

Playing him as a loose forward is madness

Girds seems to think he can be like cheese in Melbourne

 

[Girds89]

It doesn’t matter who is what role with Kenny and api in the middle together our go forward is not going to be better.

So you want Kenny, tmay and two bench forwards? Didn’t you just say we can’t carry Kenny and salmon together but now you think we can carry Kenny and tmay? Come on. That means Kenny has to play genuine bench prop minutes weekly or we go into games hoping Martin and kikau can play 80 every week. You are all other the shop. Kenny can play in the middle at a pinch like tonight but suggesting he cover the forwards as a genuine part of the middle rotation is crazy. Suggesting we can’t carry salmon and Kenny but we can carry Kenny and tmay is crazy.

And even with the kissed tackles salmon offered a lot more than Kenny tonight.

Im not all over the shop at all..just referring to the modern game.

You are the one that said i was "bullshit" for saying salmon did nothing when sos was off... yet he did nothing.....

As i said, just reading your post i dont think you get it. Stuck in the madge thought process..

Difference between kenny and salmon vs kenny and tmay/turuva is that the latter two actually genuiely cover the backs...they have x factor and they have..... SPEED.

The modern game is built around SPEED.... especially when players are fatigued...so keeny playing in the forwards and api playing a running 9 when blokes are cooked is the way forward