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Rugby League Needs An Answer To The Bledisloe Cup

RoosTah

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I had heavy involvement with NSW Union as a child. I find that I watch one or two games then get so bored I don't bother watching any more. I don't support the Australian 4 N 20 Meat Pie Fumbleball side either because a) it's also a shit sport b) they don't actually play any matches...

Saying that you have to support something simply because it's from the same country as you're from is pretty vacuous.

This actually sounds pretty vacuous itself - all you've said is you're getting bored and therefore don't want to support them... kinda makes you sound like a crap fan more than anything.

I don't support the socceroos and enjoy it when they lose, but that's because as a sport I just can't stand what soccer is in Australia; a sport for wankers who think they own the word "football", immigrants who have no interest in Australian culture, and the children of over-protective mothers.
 

byrner

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I dont support the Australian League side, because I am a fan of the game first and want the game to prosper.
I am a die hard NSW Blues fan because I fkn hate Qlders (at Origin time).
No one can tell me who I should and shouldnt support. I have my reasons for who I support.
I also cant stand the wallabies, but that is because I despise the ARU. But I play RU.
 

Parra

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Plenty of Aussie sport that I don't watch. But in every instance I want them to do well.

I don't like soccer, but I would never bag the socceroos.

There is a big difference between not actively supporting something and actively disparaging something.

The elitism that comes with the disparaging is just bullshit.
 

docbrown

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This actually sounds pretty vacuous itself - all you've said is you're getting bored and therefore don't want to support them... kinda makes you sound like a crap fan more than anything.

I don't support the socceroos and enjoy it when they lose, but that's because as a sport I just can't stand what soccer is in Australia; a sport for wankers who think they own the word "football", immigrants who have no interest in Australian culture, and the children of over-protective mothers.

Do you see how this makes you a hypocrite? :lol:

I still at least try to sit through Union matches because I grew up with the sport but for the past 15 years the quality just seems to get worse every year. That's why I get bored with it.

And if you want my honest opinion - I guess I'm also sick of all the elitist wankers who support it, just like you with soccer...

But I'm not the one saying you have to support it just because it's Aussie...

No one can tell me who I should and shouldnt support. I have my reasons for who I support.
I also cant stand the wallabies, but that is because I despise the ARU. But I play RU.

Exactly.

Saying you have to support the Wallabies simply because they're Australian is akin to the fumbleball nutters saying you have to support their shithouse sport because some guy kicked a dead possum once.

It's nonsense.

Plenty of Aussie sport that I don't watch. But in every instance I want them to do well.

I don't like soccer, but I would never bag the socceroos.

There is a big difference between not actively supporting something and actively disparaging something.

The elitism that comes with the disparaging is just bullshit.

Why should I care if a team in a sport I don't like wins? It's illogical. I don't keep tabs and I don't give a f**k if the Aussie badminton side wins either.

I think you should be allowed to disparage whatever you want if it's comical and it's not my fault Australian Rugby Union is laughable. :lol:
 
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RoosTah

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Do you see how this makes you a hypocrite? :lol:

How does it? At first you gave a crap reason for not supporting the wallabies that equated to having a short attention span. I gave a reason for not supporting soccer that was more based on culture.

And if you want my honest opinion - I guess I'm also sick of all the elitist wankers who support it, just like you with soccer...

It annoys me too, but then f**ktards like Hadley are major figures in League and allowed to commentate, so both have their irritating supporters. But fundamentally they're entrenched in Austrralian culture and history.
 

docbrown

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How does it? At first you gave a crap reason for not supporting the wallabies that equated to having a short attention span. I gave a reason for not supporting soccer that was more based on culture.

Nothing to do with attention span at all. They play boring shithouse rugby.

They could put insomnia patients to sleep with it.

There are only a handful of sides that play interesting rugby. The Wallabies aren't one of them. It's partly why they're so woeful at the Bledisloe and Rugby Championship.

But don't take my word for it. Take the word of the majority of Australians who likewise don't give a shit about them any more. I guess there's alot of un-Australian Australians out there... :lol:

Going back though to your own argument - none of what you've said excuses you from your hypocritical socceroos bashing.

Again, you're the one saying you have to support Aussie sides cause they're Aussie and all you're doing is making a subjective judgment call to break your own rule. It's nonsense.

You just stubbornly won't admit that supporting something simply because it's Australian is stupid. That's your shortcoming, not mine.

If the culture argument applies for the socceroos it also applies for the Wallatards.

It annoys me too, but then f**ktards like Hadley are major figures in League and allowed to commentate, so both have their irritating supporters. But fundamentally they're entrenched in Austrralian culture and history.

True but if you were to do an analysis of the number of f**kheads following each sport I'd think you'd find that f**kheads represent a bigger overall percentage of union's fanbase.

Of course fumbleball has the most f**kheads overall because union is a much less supported sport than the other football codes.
 

RoosTah

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Going back though to your own argument - none of what you've said excuses you from your hypocritical socceroos bashing.

Again, you're the one saying you have to support Aussie sides cause they're Aussie and all you're doing is making a subjective judgment call to break your own rule. It's nonsense.

You just stubbornly won't admit that supporting something simply because it's Australian is stupid. That's your shortcoming, not mine..

I think you're confusing me with someone else. I never said you had to support them... I just wanted to know why you don't, and at first all you said was "it's boring", which just sounded like you were a fair weather fan more than anything.

True but if you were to do an analysis of the number of f**kheads following each sport I'd think you'd find that f**kheads represent a bigger overall percentage of union's fanbase.

Of course fumbleball has the most f**kheads overall because union is a much less supported sport than the other football codes.

Ever seen a Wanderers fan? Pretty sure that kills your "biggest f**kheads" following Union or even fumbleball argument. Those soccer wankers in Western Sydney look like they're about to join ISIS.
 

docbrown

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I think you're confusing me with someone else. I never said you had to support them... I just wanted to know why you don't, and at first all you said was "it's boring", which just sounded like you were a fair weather fan more than anything.

Fair enough, the whinging on here just blurs into one after a while. It's not that I'm not supporting them because they're losing, they play boring rugby even when they win. That's not a fair weather fan, that's just my annoyance with the game in general and where its headed.

Ever seen a Wanderers fan? Pretty sure that kills your "biggest f**kheads" following Union or even fumbleball argument. Those soccer wankers in Western Sydney look like they're about to join ISIS.

I didn't say union had the biggest. I said fumbleball did. Union isn't number one at anything.

And yes, the majority of Wanderers fans might be the dregs of society but there are plenty of other normal soccer supporters out there. Fumbleball overall though is a much bigger comp than A-League and Union so it's the biggest.

But what I said was-

docbrown said:
f**kheads represent a bigger overall percentage of union's fanbase

So yeah, even including the Wanderers union's f**khead percentage is worse.

Union f**kheads might not want to join ISIS but they also arrogantly think they're superior to the plebs. If you want to deny that, feel free but you'd by lying and you'd know it.
 

strong_latte

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So yeah, even including the Wanderers union's f**khead percentage is worse.

Union f**kheads might not want to join ISIS but they also arrogantly think they're superior to the plebs. If you want to deny that, feel free but you'd by lying and you'd know it.

Disagree mate. Growing up playing league and union I know plenty of "normal" union guys who played it out of state schools like me, but even the "normal" soccer fans I've come across always need to crap on about how there's is the "world game" and that normal Aussies are somehow culturally "insular" for calling it soccer and not "foobtall".

Seriously they're the biggest most self satisfied wankers I've come across.
 
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RoosTah

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Disagree mate. Growing up playing league and union I know plenty of "normal" union guys who played it out of state schools like me, but even the "normal" soccer fans I've come across always need to crap on about how there's is the "world game" and that normal Aussies are somehow culturally "insular" for calling it soccer and not "foobtall".

Seriously they're the biggest most self satisfied wankers I've come across.

Precisely. If they're not dodgy looking thugs, they're douchebags who think following Man U and watching being able to pronounce De Piero makes them sophisticated.
 

docbrown

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Disagree mate. Growing up playing league and union I know plenty of "normal" union guys who played it out of state schools like me, but even the "normal" soccer fans I've come across always need to crap on about how there's is the "world game" and that normal Aussies are somehow culturally "insular" for calling it soccer and not "foobtall".

Seriously they're the biggest most self satisfied wankers I've come across.

I mean before I respond to this can I just point out that none of this is what this thread was originally about... :cool:

But to reply - I agree there are plenty of "normal" union guys. I also know plenty of normal "soccer" guys who don't blink an eyelid or say a word when I call it soccer.

I agree the ones who call you insular for not calling it football are f**kheads, similar to fumbleball fans who call you un-Australian for not following AFL or people who get on their highhorse about not following/supporting Aussie teams when you should be free to ridicule anything that's worthy of ridicule.

But ok, we've all got personal experiences.

I haven't had anything to do with them in a while but the NHRU are comprised of some of the most racist elitist f**kheads in Australia regardless of sporting code. And they're indicative of the wider problem in Union. They're only one step removed from the white Christian preachers who used to go to the Islands to civilize the "savages". I'd even go as far as to call some of them evil. It's widely suspected that one high ranking official is pedophile and former sex offender.

I'm not saying all union supporters are pedophiles, I'm just saying that arrogant elitist and blindly racist culture is widespread through the general union community.
 
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strong_latte

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I haven't had anything to do with them in a while but the NHRU are comprised of some of the most racist elitist f**kheads in Australia regardless of sporting code. And they're indicative of the wider problem in Union. They're only one step removed from the white Christian preachers who used to go to the Islands to civilize the "savages". I'd even go as far as to call some of them evil. It's widely suspected that one high ranking official is pedophile and former sex offender.

I'm not saying all union supporters are pedophiles, I'm just saying that arrogant elitist and blindly racist culture is widespread through the general union community.

Well if we're judging it on the administrators, then soccer still has Union beat - the slave labour that FIFA seem so happy to turn a blind eye to in Qatar is projected to result in an excess of 4000 construction related deaths by the time their World Cup is ready.

So in terms of evil, racist savages, FIFA are pretty well impossible to top.
 

docbrown

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Well if we're judging it on the administrators, then soccer still has Union beat - the slave labour that FIFA seem so happy to turn a blind eye to in Qatar is projected to result in an excess of 4000 construction related deaths by the time their World Cup is ready.

So in terms of evil, racist savages, FIFA are pretty well impossible to top.

Ok I was talking about Australia but yes I do agree that FIFA are evil.
 

Parra

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You can go back to calling people who represent Australia 'tards now.

Good luck up there on your high horse. And you have the gall to call other people elitist.
 

docbrown

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You can go back to calling people who represent Australia 'tards now.

Good luck up there on your high horse. And you have the gall to call other people elitist.

:lol:

Sensitive little fella, aren't you.

I'd call you a tard but you probably don't play union for Australia...
 

shinobi

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Love bledisloe although the excitement has definitely died out in the past 10 years because the wallabies have been so shit! I guess its the same reason international league seems a bit meh to everyone else because the kangaroos are just expected to win.
 
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