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Rumoured and Confirmed signings - Part 4

Discussion in 'Penrith Panthers' started by herbert henry1908, Jun 1, 2016.

  1. Luke Bowden

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    Anyone hear a signing rumour? That would make a nice change of pace.
     
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  2. betcats

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    I think Ash Taylor has a serious gambling problem
     
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  3. herbert henry1908

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    I don’t think he needs to be the best next year, but he does need to show a fair bit of improvement at the attacking end of the field. And I don’t mean him scoring tries, he’s already good at that. He needs to make the guys around him better, get them into holes, put on pin point kicks for the wingers.

    My personal view is that isn’t really his natural game, so I don’t see it happening. And as I’ve mentioned before it’s not just my view, he’s talked about it himself. He said he’s never been one to put on many try assists in the lower grades.

    I definitely agree he’s got a first class attitude and that will help him manage the expectations, I’d be surprised if he fell in a heap like Ash Taylor.

    I genuinely don’t think halfback is his natural position, it feels forced. Although he still does a solid job at it, I think he’d be better a bit wider at 5/8 in a traditional backline. He could be a superstar in the right position.
     
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  4. herbert henry1908

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    Just a business degree and I knew someone in the field. I mostly do retail business analysis, and I’d worked in retail a fair bit when I was younger managing bottleshops. So that helped.
     
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  5. betcats

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    If he got 9 try assists in 21 games in a woeful year for the team(especially in attack) there is a fair chance that improves when the team does better. How far away do you think he really is? Gifted attacking halves like Munster, Brooks, Walker all were at 15 or 16. That is not a big difference at all.
     
  6. Whino

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    Who needs signing rumours. Latrell last week Nathan this week. At this rate we will go through half the NRL players strengths and weaknesses by kick off next year. :p
    Who is next to discuss ?
     
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  7. Luke Bowden

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    That’s what I’m afraid of. Week after week of pointless long rant posts.
     
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  8. herbert henry1908

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    If he could push it up to 15+ territory that’d be a good improvement for the first year as the leading half. It shouldn’t just be try assists but linebreak too.

    Munster plays a more traditional 5/8 role, touches the ball a lot less than Cleary. Plus Smith had a lot of try assists out of dummy half for the Storm.
     
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    I think we are looking at Sione katoa From Newtown
     
  10. betcats

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    Agree, 15 is a reasonable expectation for him for next season. The thing is I can see him making that jump without improving his ball playing and creativity at all.
     
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    Your first paragraph is exactly my thoughts. I may have been overzealous in the delivery though.
     
  12. betcats

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    Well you are in for a long summer mate, that's all we do in the offseason.
     
  13. herbert henry1908

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    I reckon his style would need to change a bit to achieve it. It’s a 75% improvement on this year.

    for instance you said you thought a lot of what he was doing in the final 20 was just catching & passing to Maloney. Instead of doing that he’s going to need to make quite a lot of the decisions himself.
     
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    Or he might play 23 games for us next year and we might actually turn up to play the first ten rounds. His personal form was pretty poor during that time. We lost games to the titans, bulldogs and probably other teams below us. He could easily pick up an extra few try assists this way. We bombed a shit ton of tries this season also. Edwards dropped one of Nathans grubbers over the line against Newcastle.

    5 or 6 try assists over the course of 20 plus games isn't a lot IMO.
     
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    I think it's best not to log in to an internet forum if you don't like people criticising things and having negative views. Forums are for discussion and debate. Match days are for cheering and singing the praises of the team.

    You could contribute by countering the negative statements with carefully considered responses using analysis, facts or even just emotional statements like "It's my opinion, so there". You have at least partly done that in your post. But, telling other people to stop expressing their (negative) views, in a place specifically designed for people to express their views is a tad despotic. Are you Kim Jong Un? If so, please don't nuke me, its just an opinion.....
     
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    I believe we were let down this year at Hooker. Api I believe in 2020 will be a God send. Hoping that Moses, Lui et al all cut up in the nines.

    I also believe that Maloney at times overcalled Cleary which meant they didn't complement each other too well.

    I think Burton has a left foot kicking games which would be a wonderful point of difference. I was very impressed at Cleary against Cronulla when Burton played 5/8th. I still believe that Lui could cut up tired defences at 14 too.

    Along with Barrett comming back as attack coach. Hopefully this all works well.
     
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    Luai is also a left footer.

    I’d be surprised if he isn’t the 5/8 come round 1. After the start to the year we had this year I expect Ivan will make the safer bet.

    fearless prediction: Luai will lead the team in try assists, I think he can push for 20.
     
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    Thanks for that. Yep your probably right. Cleary and Lui played together comming up through the grades too.
     
  19. Westernised Panther

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    Ha ha! Nice try.

    How funny would it be though if that happened?
     
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    I have the same question. And not just a wild rumour, something with even a spec of evidence to support it.
     

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